Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-24 Thread kanepyork
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 6:05:22 PM UTC-8, Jakob Bohm wrote: > On 20/01/2017 00:35, Nick Lamb wrote: > > On Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:20:24 UTC, Jakob Bohm wrote: > >> Google's CT initiative in its current form has serious privacy problems > >> for genuine certificate holders. I

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-19 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 20/01/2017 00:35, Nick Lamb wrote: On Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:20:24 UTC, Jakob Bohm wrote: Google's CT initiative in its current form has serious privacy problems for genuine certificate holders. I applaud any well-run CA that stands up to this attack on the Internet at large. I

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-19 Thread Nick Lamb
On Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:20:24 UTC, Jakob Bohm wrote: > Google's CT initiative in its current form has serious privacy problems > for genuine certificate holders. I applaud any well-run CA that stands > up to this attack on the Internet at large. I notice that you have not specifically

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-19 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 19/01/2017 01:33, montel.bahn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 7:38:47 PM UTC-5, Itzhak Daniel wrote: Why not posting _ALL_ certificates issues via that method to CT log? We had to nag and whine for a year to get IXSystems and FreeNAS folks to finally, begrudgingly use

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-19 Thread montel . bahniii
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 7:38:47 PM UTC-5, Itzhak Daniel wrote: > Why not posting _ALL_ certificates issues via that method to CT log? We had to nag and whine for a year to get IXSystems and FreeNAS folks to finally, begrudgingly use TLS (for Download of ISOs and SHA256 no less!). The

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-12 Thread Itzhak Daniel
On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 5:03:08 AM UTC+2, Wayne Thayer wrote: > ... and will also be logged to the Google Pilot CT log. Why not posting _ALL_ certificates issues via that method to CT log? ___ dev-security-policy mailing list

RE: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-12 Thread Wayne Thayer
> From: Gervase Markham [mailto:g...@mozilla.org] > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:07 AM > To: Wayne Thayer <wtha...@godaddy.com>; mozilla-dev-security- > pol...@lists.mozilla.org > Subject: Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain > validation &g

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-12 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi Wayne, Thanks for these prompt and detailed responses. On 12/01/17 00:27, Wayne Thayer wrote: > Our initial response as reported yesterday was to fix the bug > introduced in July. Based on internal discussions and comments here, > as of 12 midnight PST last night (1/11) we stopped using this

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Yuhong Bao
Wayne Thayer; dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org; Ryan Sleevi Subject: Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation Hi Yuhong, Perhaps it be best if you create a separate thread for your question - it's not really clear at all how it relates to the topic a

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Ryan Sleevi
security-policy@lists.mozilla.org; Ryan > Sleevi > Subject: RE: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain > validation > > The nest.com certificate subject is: > CN = www.nest.com > O = Google Inc > L = Mountain View > S = California > C = US >

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Yuhong Bao
Yuhong Bao; Wayne Thayer; dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org; Ryan Sleevi Subject: RE: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation The nest.com certificate subject is: CN = www.nest.com O = Google Inc L = Mountain View S = California C = US This means this website

RE: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Richard Wang
@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Yuhong Bao Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:12 AM To: Wayne Thayer <wtha...@godaddy.com>; dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org; Ryan Sleevi <r...@sleevi.com> Subject: Re: Incident Report - Certificates issued without proper domain validation I wonder

RE: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Wayne Thayer
Responding to Ryan, Nick and Gerv: > What's unclear is what steps GoDaddy has taken to remedy this. > > For example: > 1) Disabling domain control demonstrations through the use of a file on a > server > 2) Switching to /.well-known/pkivalidation > 3) Ensuring that the random value is not part

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Nick Lamb
On Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:31:32 UTC, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > Because you're not required to setup the webserver for > smtp.example.com. Ah yes, silly me > I'm not saying they'd be right in arguing so I suppose that from a husbanding of resources point of view it makes sense to wait and

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 11/01/2017 19:17, Patrick Figel wrote: On 11/01/2017 19:06, Nick Lamb wrote: For those who haven't (unlike Patrick) sat down and read the ACME specification, ACME http-01 won't get tripped here because the checked content of the URL is very much not the random string (it's a JWS signature

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Nick Lamb wrote: > Why go to the bother of setting up a web server on say, smtp.example.com, > only to get yourself a certificate, and then turn off the web server and use > the certificate for SMTP? It's not impossible, but it would be

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Patrick Figel wrote: On 11/01/2017 04:08, Ryan Sleevi wrote: Could you speak further to how GoDaddy has resolved this problem? My hope is that it doesn't involve "Only look for 200 responses" =) In case anyone is wondering why this is problematic, during the Ballot 169

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Patrick Figel
On 11/01/2017 04:08, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > Could you speak further to how GoDaddy has resolved this problem? My > hope is that it doesn't involve "Only look for 200 responses" =) In case anyone is wondering why this is problematic, during the Ballot 169 review process, Peter Bowen ran a check

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi Wayne, As others have said, thanks for bringing this to our attention. On 11/01/17 03:02, Wayne Thayer wrote: > results even when the HTTP status code was not 200. Since many web > servers are configured to include the URL of the request in the body > of a 404 (not found) response, and the

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-11 Thread Nick Lamb
As Ryan said, thanks for informing m.d.s.policy about this issue. I am interested in the same general area as Ryan but I will ask my question separately, feel free to answer them together. Has GoDaddy been following ACME https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/acme/charter/ development, either with a

Re: Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-10 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Wayne Thayer wrote: > Summary: > On Friday, January 6th, 2017, GoDaddy became aware of a bug affecting our > domain validation processing system. The bug that caused the issue was fixed > late Friday. At 10 PM PST on Monday, Jan 9th we

Incident Report – Certificates issued without proper domain validation

2017-01-10 Thread Wayne Thayer
Summary: On Friday, January 6th, 2017, GoDaddy became aware of a bug affecting our domain validation processing system. The bug that caused the issue was fixed late Friday. At 10 PM PST on Monday, Jan 9th we completed our review to determine the scope of the problem, and identified 8850