Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-04-16 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
The proposed language includes the requirement for compliance with both the BRs and Mozilla policy, so it's a better fit for the section of our policy titled "Inclusions" than the section titled "Baseline Requirements Conformance". To close out this discussion, I added the proposed language to

Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-04-12 Thread m.wiedenhorst--- via dev-security-policy
Hi again, >Thank you for responding Matthias. > >On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:52 AM, m.wiedenhorst--- >via dev-security-policy wrote: > >> >> Hi Wayne >> >>> Can anyone say if an equivalent public-facing >>> report exists for ETSI audits? If so, I think we should

Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-04-11 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
Thank you for responding Matthias. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:52 AM, m.wiedenhorst--- via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > > Hi Wayne > > > Can anyone say if an equivalent public-facing > > report exists for ETSI audits? If so, I think we should require CAs

Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-04-11 Thread m.wiedenhorst--- via dev-security-policy
Hi Wayne > Can anyone say if an equivalent public-facing > report exists for ETSI audits? If so, I think we should require CAs to > provide these reports with their root inclusion requests. ETSI does require reports on key ceremonies (ETSI EN 319 411-1, 6.5.1 g). But ETSI does NOT require

Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-04-04 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 9:28 PM, tom.prince--- via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 7:12:19 PM UTC-6, Wayne Thayer wrote: > > In section 2.3 (Baseline Requirements Conformance), add a new bullet that > > states "Before being

Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-04-03 Thread tom.prince--- via dev-security-policy
On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 7:12:19 PM UTC-6, Wayne Thayer wrote: > In section 2.3 (Baseline Requirements Conformance), add a new bullet that > states "Before being included, CAs MUST provide evidence that their root > certificates have continually, from the time of creation, complied with the >

Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-04-02 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
Thanks Tim and Ryan for the information on WebTrust Root Key Generation Ceremony audit reports. Can anyone say if an equivalent public-facing report exists for ETSI audits? If so, I think we should require CAs to provide these reports with their root inclusion requests. Regarding the issue of

Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-03-30 Thread crawfordtimj--- via dev-security-policy
On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 10:59:10 AM UTC-5, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy < > dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > > > Mozilla began requiring BR audits for roots in our program in 2013 [1], but > > we have a vague

Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-03-29 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Wayne Thayer wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > >> >> I'm not fully sure I understand the proposal here. >> >> I would think that, for all roots created since 2012, the expectation >> > is that

Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-03-29 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > I'm not fully sure I understand the proposal here. > > I would think that, for all roots created since 2012, the expectation > is that there is an unbroken series of audits, going from a Point in Time > audit (of the

Re: Policy 2.6 Proposal: Require audits back to first issuance

2018-03-29 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > Mozilla began requiring BR audits for roots in our program in 2013 [1], but > we have a vague policy statement in section 3.1 regarding audit > requirements prior to inclusion: