Re: Symantec Response B

2017-04-17 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 13/04/17 17:43, Jeremy Rowley wrote: > Because the certificate improperly included Symantec's BR-compliance OID. If > the cert wasn't a BR-covered certificate but included the BR compliance OID, > then the cert was still mis-issued and should be disclosed. But that was not the reason they gave

RE: Symantec Response B

2017-04-13 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
-policy-bounces+jeremy.rowley=digicert.com@lists.mozilla .org] On Behalf Of Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:49 AM To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Symantec Response B Symantec's bug opens with the words: "At the end of

Re: Symantec Response B

2017-04-13 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
Symantec's bug opens with the words: "At the end of 2013, Symantec issued a cert to one of its customers that did not comply with several provisions of the CA/Browser Forum Baseline Requirements."[0] So Symantec, at least, thought that this cert fell under the BRs. If their case was that it did

RE: Symantec Response B

2017-04-12 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
On Behalf Of Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 6:40 AM To: Kurt Roeckx <k...@roeckx.be> Cc: mozilla-dev-security-policy <mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org> Subject: Re: Symantec Response B On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 AM, Kurt Roeckx via dev

Re: Symantec Response B

2017-04-12 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 4:24 AM, Kurt Roeckx via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > > I don't think 2) applies. It's only their software, that obviously can't > be updated yet, and so won't enforce such limit. That doesn't prevent the > rest of us to set such

Re: Symantec Response B

2017-04-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx via dev-security-policy
On 2017-04-11 17:54, Ryan Sleevi wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Kurt Roeckx via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: The reply indicated that it was a non-browser application. So I understand that a browser should never see that certificate. There's

Re: Symantec Response B

2017-04-11 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Kurt Roeckx via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > > The reply indicated that it was a non-browser application. So I understand > that a browser should never see that certificate. > There's no way to objectively quantify or

Re: Symantec Response B

2017-04-11 Thread Kurt Roeckx via dev-security-policy
On 2017-04-11 17:20, Ryan Sleevi wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: Hi Ryan, On 10/04/17 16:38, Ryan Sleevi wrote: 1) You're arguing that "the issuance of this cert didn't impose risk on anyone but

Re: Symantec Response B

2017-04-11 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > Hi Ryan, > > On 10/04/17 16:38, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > 1) You're arguing that "the issuance of this cert didn't impose risk on > > anyone but this specific customer" > > a)

Re: Symantec Response B

2017-04-11 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
Hi Ryan, On 10/04/17 16:38, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > 1) You're arguing that "the issuance of this cert didn't impose risk on > anyone but this specific customer" > a) What factors lead you to that decision? Can you lay out for us a scenario where this issuance might impose risk on someone else? >

Re: Symantec Response B

2017-04-10 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
Hi Steve, Some quick follow-ups: 1) You're arguing that "the issuance of this cert didn't impose risk on anyone but this specific customer" a) What factors lead you to that decision? b) What process does Symantec have in place to make such determination? c) Does such process continue to

Symantec Response B

2017-04-10 Thread Steve Medin via dev-security-policy
Issue B: 1024-bit Certificate Issued Directly From Root (Dec 2013 - Jan 2014) The customer in question informed us of an issue in December 2013 that threatened to seriously disrupt their primary business, and they sought our assistance. The customer's non-browser implementation required a