Re: [Fwd: Warning: Your SSL Certificate on trust-value.com is expiring soon. Upgrade to 2048-bit today]

2009-02-28 Thread Frank Hecker
Kyle Hamilton wrote: Also, does Mozilla want to go on record as tolerating spam? The problem with this argument is that it could be applied to a good many more things than spam. This is especially true with respect to government CAs, since governments can and do engage in activities which a

Re: [Fwd: Warning: Your SSL Certificate on trust-value.com is expiring soon. Upgrade to 2048-bit today]

2009-02-28 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/28/2009 11:05 PM, Martin Paljak: While I'm from EU and against spam, i must remind the fundamental optout/optin difference between US and EU. Just a thought. Once when I was naive enough and clicked for "unsubscribe" I've got ten times the amount of spam (since I just confirmed to them t

Re: [Fwd: Warning: Your SSL Certificate on trust-value.com is expiring soon. Upgrade to 2048-bit today]

2009-02-28 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/28/2009 10:51 PM, Kyle Hamilton: First, Microsoft has already become a CA (multiple times over), and they arguably do more things related to maintaining the trustworthiness of the PKI than Mozilla does. Kyle, follow up of Franks response was set to mozilla.dev.security.policy. Could you

Re: [Fwd: Warning: Your SSL Certificate on trust-value.com is expiring soon. Upgrade to 2048-bit today]

2009-02-28 Thread Martin Paljak
While I'm from EU and against spam, i must remind the fundamental optout/optin difference between US and EU. Just a thought. On 2/28/09, Kyle Hamilton wrote: > First, Microsoft has already become a CA (multiple times over), and > they arguably do more things related to maintaining the > trustwort

Re: [Fwd: Warning: Your SSL Certificate on trust-value.com is expiring soon. Upgrade to 2048-bit today]

2009-02-28 Thread Kyle Hamilton
First, Microsoft has already become a CA (multiple times over), and they arguably do more things related to maintaining the trustworthiness of the PKI than Mozilla does. However, I believe that spamming is reprehensible. I also believe that the only reason that spammers actually spam is because o

Re: [Fwd: Warning: Your SSL Certificate on trust-value.com is expiring soon. Upgrade to 2048-bit today]

2009-02-28 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg wrote: I suggest to Micorosoft and Mozilla to make it a policy requirement of CAs to refrain from spam and sending of unsolicited mail. In my original "CA certificate metapolicy" document from 2004 http://hecker.org/mozilla/ca-certificate-metapolicy I wrote the following: 18.

Re: ComSign Root Inclusion Request

2009-02-28 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/24/2009 10:21 PM, Kathleen Wilson: This begins the one-week discussion period. After that week, I will provide a summary of issues noted and action items. If there are no outstanding issues, then this request can be approved for inclusion. If there are outstanding issues or action items, th