Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-23 Thread Kai Engert
On 23.02.2010 02:21, Jan Schejbal wrote: Hi, Test server at https://ssltls.de none of the two images is visible with my Fx3.6. I don't give any guarantees about my prefs and addons, though. Jan Firefox 3.6 does not yet have any fixes for this. As of today, only the experimental nightly

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-23 Thread Kai Engert
On 23.02.2010 02:21, Jan Schejbal wrote: Hi, Test server at https://ssltls.de none of the two images is visible with my Fx3.6. I don't give any guarantees about my prefs and addons, though. Jan Firefox 3.6 does not yet have any fixes for this. As of today, only the experimental nightly

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-22 Thread Jan Schejbal
Hi, Test server at https://ssltls.de none of the two images is visible with my Fx3.6. I don't give any guarantees about my prefs and addons, though. Jan -- dev-tech-crypto mailing list dev-tech-crypto@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-tech-crypto

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-20 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
On 20/02/2010 03:25, Eddy Nigg wrote: Apache performs a renegotiation when none is needed when configuring client authentication at a particular location, is there a logical explanation for that? Or even considered correct implementation? Yes, there's a logical explanation and Apache is doing

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-20 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/21/2010 03:10 AM, Jean-Marc Desperrier: On 20/02/2010 03:25, Eddy Nigg wrote: Apache performs a renegotiation when none is needed when configuring client authentication at a particular location, is there a logical explanation for that? Or even considered correct implementation? Yes,

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-19 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Eddy Nigg wrote: Trying the different sub domain trick doesn't work on the same server but different host and IP. Let me phrase this explicitly : - You use only one Apache instance - You configured two virtual hosts inside that instance - Then : - either each virtual host listens on

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-19 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Eddy Nigg wrote: Trying the different sub domain trick doesn't work on the same server but different host and IP. I assume that's because the server reuses the cached SSL session and initiates a renegotiation upon certificate authentication. Does that make sense so far? I just tried

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-19 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/19/2010 08:59 PM, Jean-Marc Desperrier: I just tried configuring a similar configuration, and thought more and more whilst doing that it doesn't make sense, that it can't fail in the way you described. And it doesn't (with two ports, but it definitively would be the same with two IP).

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-19 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/20/2010 12:22 AM, Eddy Nigg: On 02/19/2010 08:59 PM, Jean-Marc Desperrier: I just tried configuring a similar configuration, and thought more and more whilst doing that it doesn't make sense, that it can't fail in the way you described. And it doesn't (with two ports, but it

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-18 Thread Kai Engert
On 18.02.2010 02:45, Eddy Nigg wrote: If you currently have a https site that's partly open and partly accessed only with client authentication, I think the only reasonable way out is to break it in two. Not sure what you mean, but the server doesn't accept client initiated renegotiation.

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-18 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/18/2010 02:37 PM, Kai Engert: Eddy, describing the solution in more detail: - configure secure.startcom.com to never request client auth - configure authent.secure.startcom.com to always request client auth This avoids having to renegotiate, because the require authentication level is

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-18 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Daniel Veditz dved...@mozilla.com wrote: I'm surprised not to see it mentioned here yet, but Firefox nightlies implement the new TLS spec to prevent the renegotiation flaw. The fixes in NSS can also be used to build your own patched version of moz_nss for

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-18 Thread Daniel Veditz
On 2/18/10 5:54 AM, Eddy Nigg wrote: Which reminds me that we were at this stage already in the past. Basically the authenticated session would have to be relayed through to the second server, something I rather prefer not to do. I suspect that there is no other way around that. You could

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-17 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Eddy Nigg wrote: On 02/14/2010 07:28 PM, Daniel Veditz: [...] Firefox settings are currently extremely permissive, [...] it's breaking the client certificate authentication of a couple of ten thousands of active user accounts at StartSSL. I take it as a reward for being the only CA protecting

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-17 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/17/2010 12:52 PM, Jean-Marc Desperrier: Eddy Nigg wrote: On 02/14/2010 07:28 PM, Daniel Veditz: [...] Firefox settings are currently extremely permissive, [...] it's breaking the client certificate authentication of a couple of ten thousands of active user accounts at StartSSL. I take

Re: Fix for the TLS renegotiation bug

2010-02-14 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/14/2010 07:28 PM, Daniel Veditz: To solve the problem for real in the long run both servers and clients need to be patched, and patched clients and servers must not talk to unpatched servers and clients. In the short run that's unrealistic so the Firefox settings are currently extremely