Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-22 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Nelson Bolyard wrote: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: The change I proposed concerning CA applications and submission of the relevant documents would solve this issue entirely. In the meantime I suggest for to always attach the audit papers to the bug. Concerning the document SwissSign

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-22 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
The latest comments at the bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343756#c45 answers and clarifies the questions and issues which I raised. SwissSign intend to reformulated the relevant parts of their CP/CPS to make it clearer next time... -- Regards Signer: Eddy Nigg,

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-21 Thread Nelson Bolyard
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: The change I proposed concerning CA applications and submission of the relevant documents would solve this issue entirely. In the meantime I suggest for to always attach the audit papers to the bug. Concerning the document SwissSign provided I think it's

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-20 Thread Frank Hecker
Nelson Bolyard wrote: Does Mozilla accept documents, *received from the applicants* (the CAs), that purport to be true copies of auditor's attestation documents, as being true copies of such documents, without any further proof? I don't think we've ever formulated a formal policy on this issue

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-20 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Nelson Bolyard wrote: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Again, I might have missed something here...if not I suggest that you or me ask about clarification at the bug. Eddy, please ask exactly those questions in the bug. No further comments have been posted until now, so I went ahead

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-19 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
I've been reading most relevant CP/CPS published at http://repository.swisssign.com/ and currently have a question concerning domain ownership validation (or relevant authorization rights) of the Gold and Sliver server certificates issued by SwissSign which would satisfy the Mozilla CA policy

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-19 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank Hecker wrote: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Section 3.2.2 of the Gold CPS includes the following: /DC= fields will only be accepted if a printout of the WHOIS entry for the domain is included. The owner of the domain must approve the request with a handwritten personal signature

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-19 Thread Nelson Bolyard
Frank, A policy question (or policy administration question): Does Mozilla accept documents, *received from the applicants* (the CAs), that purport to be true copies of auditor's attestation documents, as being true copies of such documents, without any further proof? That question applies to

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-19 Thread Nelson Bolyard
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Frank Hecker wrote: If you have further questions please feel free to ask them in the bug; I think Melanie Raemy of SwissSign is following the bug traffic but not the newsgroup discussion. Obviously I don't want to bother at the bug if unnecessary...so I

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-15 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Could you please be so kind and provide me with the a URL or document of the audit attestation of KPMG and what exactly it entails including under which criteria the CA was audited? The criteria were ETSI TS 101.456, as I believe I mentioned in the bug

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-15 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Hi Frank, I've visited that page you are pointing me obviously. However this page also says: The standards ETSI TS 101.456 (Europe) and ANSI X9.79 (USA, Canada) *may* also serve *as a basis* for the certification of a Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) respectively a Certification Service

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-15 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank Hecker wrote: Yes, the later would be my concern (ETSI TS 101.456 as the relevant criteria according to the Mozilla CA policy as opposed to ZertES as the criteria). From our point of view it would be perfectly fine if the audit criteria encompassed both ETSI TS 101.456 and

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-15 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: I've visited that page you are pointing me obviously. However this page also says: The standards ETSI TS 101.456 (Europe) and ANSI X9.79 (USA, Canada) *may* also serve *as a basis* for the certification of a Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) respectively a

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-15 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Hi Frank, Could you please be so kind and provide me with the a URL or document of the audit attestation of KPMG and what exactly it entails including under which criteria the CA was audited? -- Regards Signer: Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd. http://www.startcom.org Jabber: [EMAIL

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-15 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Yes, I saw that under Certification Service Provider (CSP)...so if I understand you correctly, the standards listed under this section were the requirements used for the audit. In that case it's most likely that they do have a document confirming that by

Re: SwissSign root CA certificate inclusion request

2007-11-15 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Hi Frank, Frank Hecker wrote: The Details SwissSignAG page seems pretty clear that ETSI TS 101.456 was (one of) the criteria used in the audit. Yes, I saw that under Certification Service Provider (CSP)...so if I understand you correctly, the standards listed under this section were the