Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-14 Thread Ian G
On 14/2/09 02:15, Eddy Nigg wrote: On 02/13/2009 11:46 AM, Ian G: Don't fixate on the title. CAs generally have some set of documents that are internal / not published, and some set of documents that are published. If someone like the WebTrust people come along and say CPS must be published

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-13 Thread Ian G
On 12/2/09 20:46, Eddy Nigg wrote: On 02/12/2009 09:04 PM, Ian G: Eddy, you change your tune so fast you must be salsa dancer ... I don't think so. I wondered if we need a list of 20 items in order to clarify what a CA should provide in terms of audited documents. As I already said, many

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-13 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Ian G wrote, On 2009-02-13 01:46: Don't fixate on the title. CAs generally have some set of documents that are internal / not published, and some set of documents that are published. If someone like the WebTrust people come along and say CPS must be published then the CPS gets thinner and

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-13 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/13/2009 10:47 PM, Nelson B Bolyard: Is that a way forward? Whatever it's called, it must be *the* document which was the base for the auditor as well. There is no substitute to it really. -- Regards Signer: Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd. Jabber: start...@startcom.org Blog:

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-13 Thread Paul Hoffman
Seems to me that this is another case where we're having problems because we're using a term (CPS) which is widely understood, but for which more than one meaning exists. As long as we continue to use it without defining it, we will have problems of people seeming to agree, but having different

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-13 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/13/2009 11:46 AM, Ian G: Don't fixate on the title. CAs generally have some set of documents that are internal / not published, and some set of documents that are published. If someone like the WebTrust people come along and say CPS must be published then the CPS gets thinner and some

what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-12 Thread Ian G
So there appear to be several things that might require an additional audit interaction over some delivery to Mozilla, outside the normal audit opinion. Here's my list of things, as spotted recently: 1. a CA's clarification or comment over a key document (e.g., CPS). 2. an additional

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-12 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/12/2009 07:47 PM, Ian G: [2] Actually I think I am a long way from nailing down the issues here. Even though I agree usually on providing clear statements and requirements, I wonder if we really have to go into such details? You know, many times it was sufficient to receive a statement

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-12 Thread Ian G
On 12/2/09 19:00, Eddy Nigg wrote: On 02/12/2009 07:47 PM, Ian G: [2] Actually I think I am a long way from nailing down the issues here. Even though I agree usually on providing clear statements and requirements, I wonder if we really have to go into such details? You know, many times it was

Re: what is the new work requirement for the auditor?

2009-02-12 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 02/12/2009 09:04 PM, Ian G: Eddy, you change your tune so fast you must be salsa dancer ... I don't think so. I wondered if we need a list of 20 items in order to clarify what a CA should provide in terms of audited documents. As I already said, many times we need only clarifications - a