Re: [ANNOUNCE] NSS 3.44 Release

2019-05-22 Thread Robert Relyea

On 05/17/2019 08:54 AM, JC Jones wrote:

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:28:39 AM UTC-7, Paul Wouters wrote:


Wait, what?

They need work to make them simpler and better support cross compiling
for sure, but getting rid of them would really hamper our use of NSS
on different platforms. How would you support that without Makefiles?

Paul

'build.sh' uses ninja-build and gyp rather than the Makefiles. I know those 
tools don't have total platform coverage yet, but it's getting close.

What platforms are you using that aren't covered? It's almost certainly easier 
to improve those tools than it is to revamp the Makefiles.


Except Makefiles still work and are how RH builds NSS. I'm sympathetic 
to how gyp files makes mozilla's life easier, but we get zero benefit 
from them, so we need a nice long discussion before we 'start to phase 
out' makefiles.


Please don't make these kinds of decisions and announcements without 
some concurrence from us.



bob


J.C.



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Re: [ANNOUNCE] NSS 3.44 Release

2019-05-17 Thread JC Jones
On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:28:39 AM UTC-7, Paul Wouters wrote:

> Wait, what?
> 
> They need work to make them simpler and better support cross compiling
> for sure, but getting rid of them would really hamper our use of NSS
> on different platforms. How would you support that without Makefiles?
> 
> Paul

'build.sh' uses ninja-build and gyp rather than the Makefiles. I know those 
tools don't have total platform coverage yet, but it's getting close.

What platforms are you using that aren't covered? It's almost certainly easier 
to improve those tools than it is to revamp the Makefiles.

J.C.
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] NSS 3.44 Release

2019-05-16 Thread Paul Wouters

On Thu, 16 May 2019, Martin Thomson wrote:


On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 2:03 PM Miklos Vajna  wrote:


Is it possible to use this static mode when building via the provided
Makefile?



No.  We're gradually phasing out support for Makefiles.  They are very hard
to maintain.


Wait, what?

They need work to make them simpler and better support cross compiling
for sure, but getting rid of them would really hamper our use of NSS
on different platforms. How would you support that without Makefiles?

Paul
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] NSS 3.44 Release

2019-05-16 Thread Martin Thomson
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 2:03 PM Miklos Vajna  wrote:

> Is it possible to use this static mode when building via the provided
> Makefile?
>

No.  We're gradually phasing out support for Makefiles.  They are very hard
to maintain.
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] NSS 3.44 Release

2019-05-16 Thread Miklos Vajna
Hi,

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 07:52:51AM -0700, JC Jones  wrote:
>* It is now possible to build NSS as a static library (Bug 1543545)

Is it possible to use this static mode when building via the provided
Makefile?

Thanks,

Miklos


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