Re: Proof of concept for Cassandra docs conversion

2020-06-29 Thread Jon Haddad
Wow, this is *really* nice. * The live search is awesome * Loving having the versions in the documentation dropdown * The UI is much nicer than the current version I think the CQL docs are the biggest unknown at this point. Very much looking forward to that. I originally doubted it would be

[DISCUSS] Stabilizing 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Dinesh Joshi
Hi all, I am starting a separate thread as the other thread has veered off in a very different direction. The ground rules for this thread are that we are not discussing branching models or release strategy here. Some folks in the community had the following questions and concerns: 1. Lack of

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Benjamin Lerer
I believe that we all need to see 4.0.0 being released. We have been frozen for too long in my opinions and some people simply believe that the project is dead. That is hurting us. That does not mean that I am not in favor of making that release as stable as possible. What we miss in my opinion

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
If this is in response to my email, you misunderstand me. There are distinct issues at play. To respond directly to the issue you raise: I am personally inclined to pursue a release of 4.0 within some time-box - say 3-6 months. We have already done a huge amount to improve the quality of the

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Benjamin Lerer
> > If this is in response to my email, you misunderstand me. > Sorry, that was not a response. Increasing stability was mentioned a lot in that thread. I am all for it. I just wanted to raise the issue that the plan for that is not clear at least for me. That is not to say there should not be

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
I believe that we should try to assume that everybody has positive intentions. :-) What did I say that suggests I have assumed any negative intentions? Sometimes this phrase reads as a thought-terminating cliché. On 29/06/2020, 13:28, "Benjamin Lerer" wrote: > > If this is in

Announcing ApacheCon @Home 2020

2020-06-29 Thread Rich Bowen
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Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Benjamin Lerer
To answer your questions Jon. I have been against the freeze from day one. In my opinion it had a > negative impact on the project. > It is simply an opinion. I stated it as such because I have no way to validate or invalidate that theory. Had we unfrozen trunk a year ago, we just > would have

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Joshua McKenzie
> > I am pointing to the implied signals about an organisation's priorities > and values that are communicated by its actions As long as you keep thinking the expressions on this ML reflect an organization's priorities and not the opinions of individual actors (like my email about branching was

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Benjamin Lerer
Sorry, Benedict. My answer was probably not phrased in the correct way. I just believe that we should not look at the organizations behind the persons participating in the project. I am not my organization and it does not push me in a direction or another. Of course, our opinions are somehow

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Jon Haddad
> I have been against the freeze from day one. In my opinion it had a negative impact on the project. I'm curious how you're measuring this. Based on my time as an evangelist at DataStax and as a consultant with the Last Pickle, I can say I rarely talked to people looking for shiny new features.

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
> I just believe that we should not look at the organizations behind the > persons You collaborate as an organisation, produce work for the project as an organisation, and the organisation tells its members - each to some greater or lesser extent - how to spend their labour. Even if we only

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Joshua McKenzie
> > As long as you keep thinking the expressions on this ML reflect an > organization's priorities and not the opinions of individual actors we're > not going to get anywhere. I propose we agree to disagree and stop thrashing the project with this topic. Nobody is going to change their mind based

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Stefan Miklosovic
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 16:50, Jon Haddad wrote: > > > I have been against the freeze from day one. In my opinion it had a > negative impact on the project. > > I'm curious how you're measuring this. Based on my time as an evangelist > at DataStax and as a consultant with the Last Pickle, I can

Re: [DISCUSS] When to branch 4.0

2020-06-29 Thread Ekaterina Dimitrova
+1 “This thread was not about sacrificing stability. It is a pity that it came across like that.“ On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 13:35, Stefan Miklosovic < stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 16:50, Jon Haddad wrote: > > > > > I have been against the freeze from day one.