Re: NewBie Question ~ Book for Cassandra

2016-06-12 Thread Chris Mattmann
en but it doesn't excuse not writing docs, even if it >> becomes a PMC type rule for committers to commit Docs for new features like >> they should be committing unit tests. At least it improves what is shipped >> with the Apache project in question. >> >> Tom >

Cassandra Java Driver and DataStax

2016-06-03 Thread Chris Mattmann
Hi All, I’m investigating something a few ASF members contacted me about and pointed out, so I’m hoping you can help guide me here as a community. I have heard that a company, DataStax, whose marketing material mentions it as the only Cassandra vendor, “controls” the Java Driver for Apache

Re: Cassandra Java Driver and DataStax

2016-06-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
Thanks Jonathan. I’m starting to get a clearer idea of what’s going on here. Do you think it was a walled garden in terms of making reviews for incoming driver patches when you did have them in the tree? What you are talking about in the first paragraph is precisely the reason that your community

Re: NewBie Question ~ Book for Cassandra

2016-06-11 Thread Chris Mattmann
here at the ASF. >> >> I’m happy to be corrected that that is the case, and/or that >> I’ve missed something, but the first reply to questions like >> this from newbies shouldn’t be to point to an external website. >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >>

Re: Cassandra Java Driver and DataStax

2016-06-06 Thread Chris Mattmann
out >> the diversity and health issues of the project, and also some >> ideas about potential strategies for mitigation. >> >> I appreciate the open and honest conversation thus far. Let’s >> keep it up. >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> ++

Re: Java Driver 3.0 for Apache Cassandra - Documentation Outdated?

2016-06-06 Thread Chris Mattmann
part of Cassandra is hosted >at DataStax? > >Cheers, >Chris > >++++++ >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >Chief Architect >Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena,

Re: Java Driver 3.0 for Apache Cassandra - Documentation Outdated?

2016-06-06 Thread Chris Mattmann
if >it was only done via developers who most likely won't document or do a poor >job at documentation). > >Having some documentation is much better for the community than the >alternative that "the code is the documentation". > >Nothing is free. > >On Jun 6, 2016,

Re: MSc Project - compaction strategy

2016-07-18 Thread Chris Mattmann
Dev discussion about the project should ideally be on the dev list. Further, all *decisions* must be on the dev list for the project. JIRA has the negative impact that it is lost in many people’s email filters and hard to parse the signal from the noise. I would consider some well formed emails

Re: 20% off Cassandra training

2016-08-06 Thread Chris Mattmann
Yeah this is something that hopefully folks at DataStax can work to update in its marketing material.. On 8/6/16, 2:54 PM, "James Carman" wrote: >I don't see any reference to the fact that it's "Apache Cassandra" here... > >-- Forwarded message -

Special Report: August 2016

2016-08-06 Thread Chris Mattmann
Carman and others bring up about marketing material from DataStax 4. PMC composition and overall approach to PMC and committers Thank you. Cheers, Chris Mattmann

Re: A proposal to move away from Jira-centric development

2016-08-15 Thread Chris Mattmann
Discussion belongs on the dev list. Putting discussion in JIRA, is fine, but realize, there is a lot of noise in that signal and people may or may not be watching the JIRA list. In fact, I don’t see JIRA sent to the dev list at all so you are basically forking the conversation to a high noise

Re: A proposal to move away from Jira-centric development

2016-08-15 Thread Chris Mattmann
essary if we simply use JIRA. > > So, I'm +1 to just post JIRA link to dev list. > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> > wrote: > > This is a good outward flow of info to the dev list. However, the

Re: A proposal to move away from Jira-centric development

2016-08-15 Thread Chris Mattmann
. Chris -Jeremiah > On Aug 15, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> wrote: > > Discussion belongs on the dev list. Putting discussion in JIRA, is fine, but realize, > there is a lot of noise in that signal and people may or may no

Re: A proposal to move away from Jira-centric development

2016-08-15 Thread Chris Mattmann
s reference-able in the changes.txt and other things. I think the approach proposed by Jonathan is a nice way to keep dev list followers informed but keeping ticket details focused. > On Aug 15, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> wrote: >

Re: A proposal to move away from Jira-centric development

2016-08-15 Thread Chris Mattmann
How is it harder to point someone to mail? Have you seen lists.apache.org? Specifically: https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@cassandra.apache.org On 8/15/16, 10:08 AM, "Jeremiah D Jordan" wrote: I like keeping things in JIRA because then everything is in

Re: A proposal to move away from Jira-centric development

2016-08-15 Thread Chris Mattmann
We aren’t doing it currently, but we could, and probably should. -- AY On 15 August 2016 at 18:22:36, Chris Mattmann (mattm...@apache.org) wrote: Discussion belongs on the dev list. Putting discussion in JIRA, is fine, but realize, there is a lot of noise in that signa

Re: A proposal to move away from Jira-centric development

2016-08-15 Thread Chris Mattmann
e good for broad discussion or bringing specific issues to the attention of the broader community. It should never be the source of truth. best, kjellman Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org<mailto:mattm

Re: A proposal to move away from Jira-centric development

2016-08-15 Thread Chris Mattmann
; wrote: So then what was the point of Ellis’s proposal, and this discussion, if there was never a choice in the matter in the first place? On 8/15/16, 2:03 PM, "Chris Mattmann" <mattm...@apache.org> wrote: I’m sorry but you are massively confused if y

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
> >> Chris, > >> > >> Yes, I would like to be added, and here sis the ticket I filed: > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12858. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> -Jason

Re: Moderation

2016-11-06 Thread Chris Mattmann
rmation to make a sound decision in that regard. > > All I ask if for some common professionalism and courtesy, nothing more. > > > > > On 11/4/16, 4:46 PM, "Chris Mattmann" <mattm...@apache.org>

Re: Moderation

2016-11-06 Thread Chris Mattmann
of their community leaders becoming “ASF members”, and that Cassandra MVPs are great – but secondary – to the responsibilities of the PMC to move towards ensuring its community understands the Apache Way.” Thanks. Cheers, Chris On 11/6/16, 6:53 AM, "Chris Mattmann" <mattm...@apac

Re: DataStax role in Cassandra and the ASF

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
Thank you for sending this. I am not going to reply in depth now, but will do so to Kelly and others over the weekend, but this is *precisely* the reason that I have been so emphatic about trying to get the PMC to see the road they have already gone done and the ship that has already set sail.

Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
Hi Folks, Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure out if it's in moderation. Can the moderators speak up? Cheers, Chris

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
at same conversation could be had on list. If you are ok with that > > continuing to happen then great but I am not. Can someone please moderate > > the message through? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Nov 4, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.o

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
oject? Or is Twitter the official list now? Go ahead, I'll wait. > On 4 November 2016 at 16:44, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> wrote: > > > So seriously, we're going to send now 4 emails talking about what a user > > of Apache Cassandra and possible community m

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
mitter/PMCs interested? > > > > Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this week. > > > > Gary. > > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > >

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
e help lead by example and reply to Kelly's questions in her email? > Thanks. > > I don't enjoy watching a community I care about continue to explode in front > of my eyes ☹️ > > best, > kjellman > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 4, 2016, at 10:10 AM, C