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mware as long > as > >> we can trunk the guest VLANs and virtualise the hypervisors. > >> > >> ____________ > >> From: Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> > >> Sent: 3 Jul 2017 2:06 am > >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org &

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t it requires vmware as long as >> we can trunk the guest VLANs and virtualise the hypervisors. >> >> >> From: Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> >> Sent: 3 Jul 2017 2:06 am >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [D

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> Sent: 3 Jul 2017 2:06 am > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof > > Sorry, I have been keeping up with these threads while on vacation at a > campsite. :) Finally back to a computer. > > Yes, ideally we would ha

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l 2017 2:06 am To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof Sorry, I have been keeping up with these threads while on vacation at a campsite. :) Finally back to a computer. Yes, ideally we would have more people actually commi

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t;> Out of interest, are there any guidelines/rules in place to reject PR's > >>> without unit tests? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Alexander Hitchins > >>> > >>> E: a...@

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is something that should definite be done. Canvas >>> as many as possible. >>> >>> I agree that most people will be running test environments before full >>> rollout of any technology, I guess see it a little from a CTO eyes - why >>> shortlist a technology t

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- E: a...@alexhitchins.com W: alexhitchins.com M: 07788 423 969 T: 01892 523 587 -Original Message- From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 21:58 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof Taken

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n really do > something. > > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > www.shapeblue.com > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] > Sent: 30 June 2017

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87 > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] > Sent: 30 June 2017 21:58 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof > > Taken from a talk on CloudStack testing [1]... > &g

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gt; something. > > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > www.shapeblue.com > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue > > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] > Sent: 30 June 2017 21:34 > To

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] Sent: 30 June 2017 21:58 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof Taken from a talk on CloudStack testing [1]... There are Many, many, MANY permutations of a CloudStack deployment…. • Basic / Advanced • Local / shared / mixed sto

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@shapeblue -Original Message- From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 21:34 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof Consultation with users is something that should de

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] Sent: 30 June 2017 21:34 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof Consultation with users is something that should definite be done. Canvas as many as possible. I agree that most people will be running

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--- > E: a...@alexhitchins.com > W: alexhitchins.com > M: 07788 423 969 > T: 01892 523 587 > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] > Sent: 30 June 2017 20:13 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISC

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523 587 -Original Message- From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 20:13 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof On 30/06/2017 2:19 PM, Alex Hitchins wrote: Releasing against a def

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>>>>> it's just that repeatedly people have ignored it. >>>>> >>>>> WRT a full-time release manager, I suspect that they would find >>>>> that "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink". >>>>> They would not be

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hins.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 15:05 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof I am in complete agreement with you. Also on your other reply regards to a FT release manager. If 'we' don't go down this line, more and more people will follow the Cosmic/S

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2017 2:54 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof If the plan is to do several releases each year, something has to change in the process. Any idea about what tasks took up most of the time? Were there any specific issu

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mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 15:05 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof I am in complete agreement with you. Also on your other reply regards to a FT release manager. If 'we' don't go down this line, more and m

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vent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue -Original Message- From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 15:05 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof I am in complete agreement with you. Also on yo

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rry up and fix that bug you created', although >>>> I guess maybe they could pull a feature if the author(s) didn't sort it >>>> out. >>>> >>>> Because ultimately a release manager, paid or otherwise should only be >>>> doing what the 'c

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, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue -Original Message- From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 15:05 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof I am in complete agreement with you. Also o

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e manager, paid or otherwise should only be >>> doing what the 'community' decides the release manager's role is. So we >>> need to be clear about how we want releases to work before worrying about >>> who manages that. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>>

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to keep the overhead down. A few >> companies donating 10k per year should probably allow you to hire a person. >> >> Wido >> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Paul Angus >>> >>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >>> www.shapeblue.com >

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erhead down. A few >> companies donating 10k per year should probably allow you to hire a person. >> >> Wido >> >> Kind regards, >>> >>> Paul Angus >>> >>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >>> www.shapeblue.com >>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent

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person. > > Wido > >> Kind regards, >> >> Paul Angus >> >> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> www.shapeblue.com >> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK >> @shapeblue >> >> >> >> >> -Original Mess

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m: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 15:05 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof I am in complete agreement with you. Also on your other reply regards to a FT release manager. If 'we' don't go down t

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Paul Angus >> >> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> www.shapeblue.com >> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK >> @shapeblue >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] >> Sent: 30 June 2017 15:05 >&g

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lace, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > @shapeblue > > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] > Sent: 30 June 2017 15:05 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management &am

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amstev...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 14:31 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof Apache has been historically against the idea of a cloudstack foundation and there is a bit of a pandoras box there which we will want to be carefu

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@shapeblue -Original Message- From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 15:05 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof I am in complete agreement with you. Also on your other reply regards to

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ins.com M: 07788 423 969 T: 01892 523 587 -Original Message- From: Will Stevens [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 14:31 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof Apache has been historically against the

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] Sent: 30 June 2017 14:31 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof Apache has been historically against the idea of a cloudstack foundation and there is a bit of a pandoras box there which we will want to be careful about openi

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.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof Apache has been historically against the idea of a cloudstack foundation and there is a bit of a pandoras box there which we will want to be careful about opening. Apache added direct contribution, but it was unusable

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Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] > Sent: 30 June 2017 14:06 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html says: > "If you have a

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: a...@alexhitchins.com W: alexhitchins.com M: 07788 423 969 T: 01892 523 587 -Original Message- From: Will Stevens [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 14:31 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof Apache has

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- From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 14:06 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Releases, Project Management & Funding Thereof https://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html says: "If you have a specific target or project

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Apache has been historically against the idea of a cloudstack foundation and there is a bit of a pandoras box there which we will want to be careful about opening. Apache added direct contribution, but it was unusable for us historically because it required a minimum contribution of 50k, which

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https://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html says: "If you have a specific target or project that you wish to directly support, pleasecontact us and we will do our best to satisfy your wishes." 1) Is Apache willing to