Hi Everyone
Thank you all for your comments, ideas and suggestions. Thanks also to the
volunteer helpers - I will contacting some (or maybe all) of you for help in
various areas including reviews of the updated survey.
Just of info – I’ve also been talking to the CHAOSS Diversity and Inclusion
working group that are in the process of looking at defining some standard
metrics around Diversity. With both my Comdev and Kibble hat on – I think this
working group would be great for Apache to participate and have a presence in.
Also I’ve received some feedback and advice via CHAOSS from people at other
open source foundations that have run diversity surveys so will see what I can
learn from their experiences too.
So the next step is that I’ll work on updating the survey, and use some or all
of my volunteer helpers to provide me with some feedback then once we have
finalised it, we’ll look to promote it so that we hopefully get more responses
this time!
Thanks
Sharan
On 2018/10/05 03:48:17, Liu Ted wrote:
> +1
>
> Ted Liu,
> ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador
>
> 2018 年 10 月 4 日周四 2:58，Myrle Krantz 写道： Would it make
> sense to add a question about the form of a
> participant's contribution? (ie, code, marketing, QA, UX, tech docs,
> logo, organizational, and I know I'm forgetting something important
> please forgive me) I'd be interested in seeing in numbers how good we
> are at recognizing non-code contributions with committership.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:26 PM Christopher wrote:
> >
> > Agreed. It should not be significantly longer. Even without being
> > longer or differently scoped, it occurs to me that an "Annual
> > Community Survey" may just be better branding and may elicit more
> > responses.
> >
> > I'd be happy to try to help with reviewing and providing feedback on
> > question wording and survey length.
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 3:09 PM Joan Touzet wrote:
> > >
> > > One problem with such an approach is that by lengthening the survey, you
> > > end up with more "drop-outs," i.e., people who don't finish the complete
> > > survey. This means that you have a reduced sample set. I believe the 2016
> > > survey didn't count any partial responses, which is typically good
> > > practice from a quantitative standpoint.
> > >
> > > I'm not opposed to a couple of questions, but we shouldn't take what was
> > > an 8-ish question survey and turn it into a 20-ish question survey. The
> > > 13% response rate we had would likely be halved, if not worse.
> > >
> > > -Joan
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Christopher"
> > > > To: "ComDev"
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 1:52:44 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey
> > > >
> > > > Would it be possible to widen the survey's scope to a broader
> > > > "Community Survey", while still retaining the diversity questions as
> > > > one component, but also including other non-diversity questions
> > > > pertaining to the ASF community at large?
> > > >
> > > > This suggestion comes from some conversations in Montreal, where some
> > > > of us discussed the desire to have some additional feedback from our
> > > > community. For example, one question I remember being discussed in
> > > > particular was something like "If the ASF had more money, what should
> > > > it do with it?" (possible answers: marketing materials provided to
> > > > PMCs, hire more INFRA, provide EC2 credits to PMCs or INFRA for CI,
> > > > publish educational/outreach materials for distribution, other). I'm
> > > > sure we could come up with additional questions for the non-diversity
> > > > component to the survey as well.
> > > >
> > > > Does broadening the scope of this survey to include diversity and
> > > > non-diversity components make sense?
> > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:30 AM Sharan Foga wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s been nearly 2 years since we ran our ASF Committer Diversity
> > > > > Survey so I think it's about time that we looked at running it
> > > > > again to see if things are changing. For those of you who haven't
> > > > > seen the details or the results from our 2016 ASF Committer
> > > > > Diversity Survey then you can find them at the link below:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://s.apache.org/lV9h
> > > > >
> > > > > Our original 2016 survey was run to:
> > > > >
> > > > > - help us get a picture of our existing diversity as all our
> > > > > committers are linked to all ASF projects, and also;
> > > > > - to create a baseline measure so we can see if we see if we are
> > > > > improving or not in our diversity efforts.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I think that it would also be good to discuss and review the
> > > > > survey questions to see if we can improve them or the phrasing to
> > > > > better capture the data. Also if anyone is interested in helping
> > > > > out then please let me know.
> > > > >
> > > > >
