Re: [incubator-dubbo.wiki] branch master updated: Do not expose private mail list

2018-04-16 Thread Huxing Zhang 
Understood, I will restore it.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
> On 16/04/18 02:33, Huxing Zhang wrote:
>> I thought if the private mailing list address goes publicly, it might be 
>> abused.
>>
>> Is cc-ing dev@ better than private@?
>
> While the contents of private@ is, well, private, the fact that it
> exists is not private. It is like the security@ list in that respect. It
> is OK to say the lists exist and ask people to use them in the
> appropriate circumstances.
>
> If anyone abuses any ASF mailing list, public or private, there are
> tools available to deal with that. Mentors and/or the infra team can
> advise if that becomes necessary.
>
> Generally, SGA, ICLAs etc are kept private so private@ is the right place.
>
> HTH,
>
> Mark
>
>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:19 AM, John D. Ament  
>> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 12:13 PM Mark Thomas  wrote:
>>>
 On 14/04/18 13:15, hux...@apache.org wrote:
> This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
>
> huxing pushed a commit to branch master
> in repository
 https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-dubbo.wiki.git
>
>
> The following commit(s) were added to refs/heads/master by this push:
>  new 3a003bd  Do not expose private mail list
> 3a003bd is described below
>
> commit 3a003bd9d5595757e1f58f45ba70dd26d5a1ba60
> Author: Huxing Zhang 
> AuthorDate: Sat Apr 14 20:15:24 2018 +0800
>
> Do not expose private mail list

 Why?

>>>
>>> 2nd'd.  I see a lot of benefits to CC'ing the project's list from secretary
>>> POV.  In case the submitter forgot to mention associate project it gives
>>> them a hint where to look.
>>>
>>>

 Mark


> ---
>  Software-donation-guide.md | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/Software-donation-guide.md b/Software-donation-guide.md
> index df3cd46..d03797c 100644
> --- a/Software-donation-guide.md
> +++ b/Software-donation-guide.md
> @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ If you are donating significant amount of code or
 documentation to Apache Dubbo
>  3. Fill in the blanks (see below as an example)
>  4. Request your boss to sign it
>  5. Scan it
> -6. Send an email to secret...@apache.org, and cc
 priv...@dubbo.apache.org
> +6. Send an email to secret...@apache.org
>
>   Example:
>
>


>>
>

-- 
Best Regards！
Huxing

Re: [incubator-dubbo.wiki] branch master updated: Do not expose private mail list

2018-04-16 Thread Mark Thomas 
On 16/04/18 02:33, Huxing Zhang wrote:
> I thought if the private mailing list address goes publicly, it might be 
> abused.
> 
> Is cc-ing dev@ better than private@?

While the contents of private@ is, well, private, the fact that it
exists is not private. It is like the security@ list in that respect. It
is OK to say the lists exist and ask people to use them in the
appropriate circumstances.

If anyone abuses any ASF mailing list, public or private, there are
tools available to deal with that. Mentors and/or the infra team can
advise if that becomes necessary.

Generally, SGA, ICLAs etc are kept private so private@ is the right place.

HTH,

Mark


> 
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:19 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 12:13 PM Mark Thomas  wrote:
>>
>>> On 14/04/18 13:15, hux...@apache.org wrote:
 This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.

 huxing pushed a commit to branch master
 in repository
>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-dubbo.wiki.git


 The following commit(s) were added to refs/heads/master by this push:
  new 3a003bd  Do not expose private mail list
 3a003bd is described below

 commit 3a003bd9d5595757e1f58f45ba70dd26d5a1ba60
 Author: Huxing Zhang 
 AuthorDate: Sat Apr 14 20:15:24 2018 +0800

 Do not expose private mail list
>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>
>> 2nd'd.  I see a lot of benefits to CC'ing the project's list from secretary
>> POV.  In case the submitter forgot to mention associate project it gives
>> them a hint where to look.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
 ---
  Software-donation-guide.md | 2 +-
  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

 diff --git a/Software-donation-guide.md b/Software-donation-guide.md
 index df3cd46..d03797c 100644
 --- a/Software-donation-guide.md
 +++ b/Software-donation-guide.md
 @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ If you are donating significant amount of code or
>>> documentation to Apache Dubbo
  3. Fill in the blanks (see below as an example)
  4. Request your boss to sign it
  5. Scan it
 -6. Send an email to secret...@apache.org, and cc
>>> priv...@dubbo.apache.org
 +6. Send an email to secret...@apache.org

   Example:


>>>
>>>
>

Re: [incubator-dubbo.wiki] branch master updated: Do not expose private mail list

2018-04-15 Thread Huxing Zhang 
I thought if the private mailing list address goes publicly, it might be abused.

Is cc-ing dev@ better than private@?

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:19 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 12:13 PM Mark Thomas  wrote:
>
>> On 14/04/18 13:15, hux...@apache.org wrote:
>> > This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
>> >
>> > huxing pushed a commit to branch master
>> > in repository
>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-dubbo.wiki.git
>> >
>> >
>> > The following commit(s) were added to refs/heads/master by this push:
>> >  new 3a003bd  Do not expose private mail list
>> > 3a003bd is described below
>> >
>> > commit 3a003bd9d5595757e1f58f45ba70dd26d5a1ba60
>> > Author: Huxing Zhang 
>> > AuthorDate: Sat Apr 14 20:15:24 2018 +0800
>> >
>> > Do not expose private mail list
>>
>> Why?
>>
>
> 2nd'd.  I see a lot of benefits to CC'ing the project's list from secretary
> POV.  In case the submitter forgot to mention associate project it gives
> them a hint where to look.
>
>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> > ---
>> >  Software-donation-guide.md | 2 +-
>> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/Software-donation-guide.md b/Software-donation-guide.md
>> > index df3cd46..d03797c 100644
>> > --- a/Software-donation-guide.md
>> > +++ b/Software-donation-guide.md
>> > @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ If you are donating significant amount of code or
>> documentation to Apache Dubbo
>> >  3. Fill in the blanks (see below as an example)
>> >  4. Request your boss to sign it
>> >  5. Scan it
>> > -6. Send an email to secret...@apache.org, and cc
>> priv...@dubbo.apache.org
>> > +6. Send an email to secret...@apache.org
>> >
>> >   Example:
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

-- 
Best Regards！
Huxing

Re: [incubator-dubbo.wiki] branch master updated: Do not expose private mail list

2018-04-15 Thread John D. Ament 
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 12:13 PM Mark Thomas  wrote:

> On 14/04/18 13:15, hux...@apache.org wrote:
> > This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
> >
> > huxing pushed a commit to branch master
> > in repository
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-dubbo.wiki.git
> >
> >
> > The following commit(s) were added to refs/heads/master by this push:
> >  new 3a003bd  Do not expose private mail list
> > 3a003bd is described below
> >
> > commit 3a003bd9d5595757e1f58f45ba70dd26d5a1ba60
> > Author: Huxing Zhang 
> > AuthorDate: Sat Apr 14 20:15:24 2018 +0800
> >
> > Do not expose private mail list
>
> Why?
>

2nd'd.  I see a lot of benefits to CC'ing the project's list from secretary
POV.  In case the submitter forgot to mention associate project it gives
them a hint where to look.


>
> Mark
>
>
> > ---
> >  Software-donation-guide.md | 2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Software-donation-guide.md b/Software-donation-guide.md
> > index df3cd46..d03797c 100644
> > --- a/Software-donation-guide.md
> > +++ b/Software-donation-guide.md
> > @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ If you are donating significant amount of code or
> documentation to Apache Dubbo
> >  3. Fill in the blanks (see below as an example)
> >  4. Request your boss to sign it
> >  5. Scan it
> > -6. Send an email to secret...@apache.org, and cc
> priv...@dubbo.apache.org
> > +6. Send an email to secret...@apache.org
> >
> >   Example:
> >
> >
>
>

Re: [incubator-dubbo.wiki] branch master updated: Do not expose private mail list

2018-04-15 Thread Mark Thomas 
On 14/04/18 13:15, hux...@apache.org wrote:
> This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
> 
> huxing pushed a commit to branch master
> in repository https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-dubbo.wiki.git
> 
> 
> The following commit(s) were added to refs/heads/master by this push:
>  new 3a003bd  Do not expose private mail list
> 3a003bd is described below
> 
> commit 3a003bd9d5595757e1f58f45ba70dd26d5a1ba60
> Author: Huxing Zhang 
> AuthorDate: Sat Apr 14 20:15:24 2018 +0800
> 
> Do not expose private mail list

Why?

Mark


> ---
>  Software-donation-guide.md | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Software-donation-guide.md b/Software-donation-guide.md
> index df3cd46..d03797c 100644
> --- a/Software-donation-guide.md
> +++ b/Software-donation-guide.md
> @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ If you are donating significant amount of code or 
> documentation to Apache Dubbo
>  3. Fill in the blanks (see below as an example)
>  4. Request your boss to sign it
>  5. Scan it
> -6. Send an email to secret...@apache.org, and cc priv...@dubbo.apache.org
> +6. Send an email to secret...@apache.org
>  
>   Example:
>  
>