Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Deepak MS]

Wow! So this is so exciting. Mosting trending subject currently. What a
'royale' start ; )

I'm not sure if domain name is fixed yet. If not, may be just like how a
voting thread was opened for finalising the name, same can be done for
finalising domain name too. This would narrow down the search. Just a
thought.

Cheers!

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

gt;>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> EdB
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 2:35 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >>>>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui
> >>>> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
> >>>>>>>>>> possible
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?
> >> That
> >>>>>>>>>> might
> >>>>>>>>>>>> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that
> >>>>>>>>>> domain if
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently
> there
> >>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>> problems like that for other projects.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and
> >> simply
> >>>>>>>>>> redirect
> >>>>>>>>>>> them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who
> >> charge
> >>>>>> $0
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain
> >>>>>> re-registration
> >>>>>>>>>>> every year.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have
> to
> >>>>>>>>>> redirect
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It
> >> would
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> nice
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have that domain no matter what.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of
> OmPrakash
> >>>>>>>>>>> Muppirala"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <
> e...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EdB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>&

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Harbs]

t;>>>>>>> problems like that for other projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and
>> simply
>>>>>>>>>> redirect
>>>>>>>>>>> them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who
>> charge
>>>>>> $0
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain
>>>>>> re-registration
>>>>>>>>>>> every year.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to
>>>>>>>>>> redirect
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It
>> would
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have that domain no matter what.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
>>>>>>>>>>> Muppirala"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui
>>>>>>>>>> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can
>> get
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squatters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and
>> registered a
>>>>>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but
>> it
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Harbs,

you're right, I can work faster in WP but after I get a production state we
then can think about creating a state site with the results (there are
tools for that, even to migrate to Jekyll although I don't test it). My
beet is that we can export statics versions to host in gihub, I never did
this, but when I finish I'll take a look.

WP give us a lot of cool funcionality that we must see if we want/need it
in order to allow people to contribute.

At this time I'm working on visuals like the logo and then I'll go for home
and some pages. I think I have some weeks of work in front of me. Hope to
show you results as I get something that looks ok.

After I get a good state, we can maintain the site hidden if we want, I
think as well that maybe we could wait until the main things will be set
up. For example, IMHO, we need at least two more things: A good Royale
native UI Set and a project for forms, validators and formatters (I think
this two will be one of the first things people would want to check). As we
get the new mailing list we should create a thread and see what things to
get 1.0 (minimum)

The reason to maintain the site hidden is to make a huge release when we
reach the 1.0 state. And spread the word to magazines, tech sites, and
whatever that could make us create a big wave in the mainstream. We need to
get the attention of everyone working with actual frameworks and make them
look in our direction.

As I said, I don't really need all our website be created with Royale, but
I'd prefer concentrate our the efforts in make a "piece" that could make
people try Royale interactively in our home.

We need to show people how great Royale is and they should see it in few
minutes in our home trying some hello world code that could be changed on
the fly.

If people can see that, and is easy for them, people would want to try
Royale and I think could end as a Royale User in no time.

We need to make Royale easy for people doesn't now nothing about us, If we
get that, our user base will increase with the time and we could be one of
the techs widely used.

We need to make people think we are the next tech, that's for me should be
our goal.









2017-09-24 15:07 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :

> >
> > [...] I’d definitely like to see if we could migrate the content
> > afterwards.
> >
>
> Dogfooding. Yeah!
>
> EdB
>
>
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Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

;>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to
> >>>>>>>> redirect
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It
> would
> >> be
> >>>>>>>> nice
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> have that domain no matter what.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> >>>>>>>>> Muppirala"
> >>>>>>>>>>> <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> EdB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui
> >>>>>>>> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can
> get
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> domain
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> squatters.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and
> registered a
> >>>>>>>> bunch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but
> it
> >>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is
> just
> >>>>>>>>> higher.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us
> >> to
> >>>>>>>>> settle
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok
> >>>>>>>> having a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception
> to
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rule.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and
> >>>>>>>> point to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> non

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Harbs]

>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui
>>>>>>>> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> squatters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a
>>>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just
>>>>>>>>> higher.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us
>> to
>>>>>>>>> settle
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok
>>>>>>>> having a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rule.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and
>>>>>>>> point to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-profit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
>>>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rovira"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
>>>>>>>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said,
>> we
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> game
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not play...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I t

RE: Royale website and domain registration

[yishayw]

Olaf Krueger wrote
> I think FlexJS/Royale is bloated for building Websites.

I think this could make for an interesting technical discussion. Why is
Royale bloated for building Websites?




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Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

de the code, or take care of the move myself.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but
> that
> >>>>>> would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
> >>>>>> commercial
> >>>>>> AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> EdB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 2:35 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui
> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
> >>>>>> possible
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That
> >>>>>> might
> >>>>>>>> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that
> >>>>>> domain if
> >>>>>>>> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>> problems like that for other projects.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply
> >>>>>> redirect
> >>>>>>> them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge
> >> $0
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>>> just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain
> >> re-registration
> >>>>>>> every year.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to
> >>>>>> redirect
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would
> be
> >>>>>> nice
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> have that domain no matter what.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> >>>>>>> Muppirala"
> >>>>>>>>> <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> EdB
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui
> >>>>>> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get
> >>>>

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Harbs]

gt;>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That
>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that
>>>>>> domain if
>>>>>>>> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> problems like that for other projects.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply
>>>>>> redirect
>>>>>>> them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge
>> $0
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain
>> re-registration
>>>>>>> every year.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to
>>>>>> redirect
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be
>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> have that domain no matter what.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
>>>>>>> Muppirala"
>>>>>>>>> <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui
>>>>>> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> domain
>>>>>>>>>>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
>>>>>>>>>>> squatters.
>>>>>>>>>>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a
>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
>>>>>>>>>>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just
>>>>>>> higher.
>>>>>>>>>>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to
>>>>>>> settle
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> at least o

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Hi Yishay,

I agree with you, but creation of that site take a lot of time cause we are
volunteer. Personally I would start the idea once Carlos put all his design
and create WP website. Than we can slowly start recreation using his design
in order to replace WP some day.

Piotr

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 10:02 Yishay Weiss <yishayj...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Personally I think it should be a FlexJS App/Site. It would take longer to
> have something running but if the framework isn’t ready for this kind of
> thing then it’s probably a good idea to delay publishing the site until it
> is ready.
>
> Frankly, I don’t think we’re in a Royale state right now. There are too
> many bugs. When we have a nice app/site with good layout and some cool
> functionality I’ll feel better about us creating a buzz.
>
>
> From: Harbs<mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:37 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org<mailto:dev@flex.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Royale website and domain registration
>
> I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress for
> the site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow pull
> requests for folks to improve the site.
>
> Thanks,
> Harbs
>
> > On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
> > Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
> > in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
> >
> > 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> >
> >> Yes, their concern is legitimate.
> >>
> >> Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on an
> >> Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or maybe
> >> we'll have to try that plugin you found.
> >>
> >> Later,
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> Rovira"
> >> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
> >>>
> >>> I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
> >>> completely
> >>> about what they are concerned to.
> >>> So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin that
> >>> allows
> >>> to create a static site from a WP site
> >>> and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that
> seems
> >>> to
> >>> use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow once
> >>> you'll
> >>> go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it behaves.
> In
> >>> that way I could host my WP
> >>> installation where we do work and then export to the real site hosted
> on
> >>> GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
> >>> with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the best
> >>> option for us.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live (for
> >>>> now?)
> >>>> on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname
> record
> >>>> to
> >>>> point it to:
> >>>>
> >>>> royale.codeoscopic.com
> >>>>
> >>>> As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
> >>>> royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.
> >>>>
> >>>> The domain has been payed for for one year, with automatic renewal.
> I'll
> >>>> donate these costs.
> >>>>
> >>>> If the domain needs to move to somewhere else, I'll remove the locks
> and
> >>>> provide the code, or take care of the move myself.
> >>>>
> >>>> If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but that
> >>>> would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
> >>>> commercial
> >>>> AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> EdB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >&g

RE: Royale website and domain registration

[Yishay Weiss]

Personally I think it should be a FlexJS App/Site. It would take longer to have 
something running but if the framework isn’t ready for this kind of thing then 
it’s probably a good idea to delay publishing the site until it is ready.

Frankly, I don’t think we’re in a Royale state right now. There are too many 
bugs. When we have a nice app/site with good layout and some cool functionality 
I’ll feel better about us creating a buzz.


From: Harbs<mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:37 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org<mailto:dev@flex.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Royale website and domain registration

I’m late to this party, but what’s the advantage of using WordPress for the 
site? Wouldn’t Github Pages be more appropriate? That would allow pull requests 
for folks to improve the site.

Thanks,
Harbs

> On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Alex, an apache VM with WP will be optimal for sure.
> Better wait as you said, in the meanwhile I'll be working
> in some website design that could serve us whatever we end doing.
>
> 2017-09-23 9:05 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>
>> Yes, their concern is legitimate.
>>
>> Let's be patient and see if there is a practical way to host WP on an
>> Apache server.  Maybe we can get our own VM and put WP on it.  Or maybe
>> we'll have to try that plugin you found.
>>
>> Later,
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 9/22/17, 11:58 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Erik, for registering the domain.
>>>
>>> I just read the trademarks thread and must say that I understand
>>> completely
>>> about what they are concerned to.
>>> So I was searching for a solution. It seems there's a WP plugin that
>>> allows
>>> to create a static site from a WP site
>>> and as well a WP to Jekyll exporter (thinking in github pages that seems
>>> to
>>> use Jekyll). I never use that and don't know about the workflow once
>>> you'll
>>> go maintenance mode. But I could look at it and see if how it behaves. In
>>> that way I could host my WP
>>> installation where we do work and then export to the real site hosted on
>>> GitHub or in whatever host that would conform
>>> with apache policies. It will complicate things but could be the best
>>> option for us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-09-23 8:13 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have just registered the 'royalesdk.org' domain. It will live (for
>>>> now?)
>>>> on my AWS' Route 53 account. Just for now, I've given it a cname record
>>>> to
>>>> point it to:
>>>>
>>>> royale.codeoscopic.com
>>>>
>>>> As soon as the contents there move to their final place behind '
>>>> royale.apache.org', I'll change the DNS record accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> The domain has been payed for for one year, with automatic renewal. I'll
>>>> donate these costs.
>>>>
>>>> If the domain needs to move to somewhere else, I'll remove the locks and
>>>> provide the code, or take care of the move myself.
>>>>
>>>> If needed, I can give other folks karma to manage the domain, but that
>>>> would have to be on a person to person basis, as it lives on a
>>>> commercial
>>>> AWS account that I can't give everyone access to.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> EdB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 2:35 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it
>>>> possible
>>>> for
>>>>>> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That
>>>> might
>>>>>> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that
>>>> domain if
>>>>>> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there
>>>> have
>>>>> been
>>>>>> problems like that fo

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

s stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there
> >>>> have
> >>>>> been
> >>>>>> problems like that for other projects.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply
> >>>> redirect
> >>>>> them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge
> $0
> >>>> for
> >>>>> just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain
> re-registration
> >>>>> every year.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Om
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to
> >>>> redirect
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be
> >>>> nice
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> have that domain no matter what.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> >>>>> Muppirala"
> >>>>>>> <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> EdB
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui
> >>>> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> domain
> >>>>>>>>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
> >>>>>>>>> squatters.
> >>>>>>>>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a
> >>>> bunch
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
> >>>>>>>>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it
> >>>> would
> >>>>>>>>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just
> >>>>> higher.
> >>>>>>>>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to
> >>>>> settle
> >>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok
> >>>> having a
> >>>>>>>>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> rule.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and
> >>>> point to
> >>>>>>>>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
> >>>>>>>>> non-profit.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> My 2 cents,
> >>>>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Harbs]

gt;>> -Alex
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to
>>>> redirect
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be
>>>> nice
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have that domain no matter what.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
>>>>> Muppirala"
>>>>>>> <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui
>>>> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> domain
>>>>>>>>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
>>>>>>>>> squatters.
>>>>>>>>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a
>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
>>>>>>>>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it
>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just
>>>>> higher.
>>>>>>>>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to
>>>>> settle
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok
>>>> having a
>>>>>>>>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> rule.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and
>>>> point to
>>>>>>>>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
>>>>>>>>> non-profit.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents,
>>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>>>> Rovira"
>>>>>>>>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
>>>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we
>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>> paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that
>>>> seems
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> game
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> should not play...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think the more easy and best option right now is
>>>> "royale.web" or
>>>>>>>>> ".app"
>>>>>>>>>> (if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
>>>>>>>

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

behalf of OmPrakash
> >> > Muppirala"
> >> > > ><omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >>wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>EdB
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>+1
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui
> >><aha...@adobe.com.invalid
> >> >
> >> > > >>wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> Hi Carlos,
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get
> >>the
> >> > > >>>domain
> >> > > >>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
> >> > > >>>squatters.
> >> > > >>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a
> >> bunch
> >> > > >>>of
> >> > > >>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
> >> > > >>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it
> >> would
> >> > > >>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just
> >> > higher.
> >> > > >>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to
> >> > settle
> >> > > >>>on
> >> > > >>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok
> >>having a
> >> > > >>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to
> >>the
> >> > > >>>rule.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and
> >>point to
> >> > > >>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
> >> > > >>>non-profit.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> My 2 cents,
> >> > > >>> -Alex
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
> >>Carlos
> >> > > >>>Rovira"
> >> > > >>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
> >> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> >> > > >>> wrote:
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we
> >> > could
> >> > > >>>end
> >> > > >>> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that
> >>seems
> >> a
> >> > > >>>game
> >> > > >>> >we
> >> > > >>> >should not play...
> >> > > >>> >
> >> > > >>> >I think the more easy and best option right now is
> >>"royale.web" or
> >> > > >>>".app"
> >> > > >>> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
> >> > > >>> >
> >> > > >>> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter
> >>composed
> >> > > >>> >options.
> >> > > >>> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
> >> > > >>> >"apacheroyale.com"
> >> > > >>> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before
> >> > > >>>considering
> >> > > >>> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
> >> > > >>> >
> >> > > >>> >
> >> > > >>> >
> >> > > >>> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 An

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Alex Harui]

gt; > >>> Hi Carlos,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get
>>the
>> > > >>>domain
>> > > >>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
>> > > >>>squatters.
>> > > >>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a
>> bunch
>> > > >>>of
>> > > >>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
>> > > >>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it
>> would
>> > > >>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just
>> > higher.
>> > > >>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to
>> > settle
>> > > >>>on
>> > > >>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok
>>having a
>> > > >>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to
>>the
>> > > >>>rule.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and
>>point to
>> > > >>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
>> > > >>>non-profit.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> My 2 cents,
>> > > >>> -Alex
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
>>Carlos
>> > > >>>Rovira"
>> > > >>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>> > > >>> wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we
>> > could
>> > > >>>end
>> > > >>> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that
>>seems
>> a
>> > > >>>game
>> > > >>> >we
>> > > >>> >should not play...
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> >I think the more easy and best option right now is
>>"royale.web" or
>> > > >>>".app"
>> > > >>> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter
>>composed
>> > > >>> >options.
>> > > >>> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
>> > > >>> >"apacheroyale.com"
>> > > >>> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before
>> > > >>>considering
>> > > >>> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore
>><cottag...@gmail.com>:
>> > > >>> >
>> > > >>> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>> > > >>> >>
>> > > >>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
>> > > >>> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>> > > >>> >>
>> > > >>> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>> > > >>> >> >
>> > > >>> >> >
>> > > >>> >> > [1]
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > > https%3A%2F%2Fdomai
>> > > >>>>>n
>> > > >>>>>s
>> > > >>> .
>> > > >>> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
>> > > >>> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
>> > > >>> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > > >>> ce

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

 just
> > higher.
> > > >>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to
> > settle
> > > >>>on
> > > >>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
> > > >>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the
> > > >>>rule.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
> > > >>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
> > > >>>non-profit.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> My 2 cents,
> > > >>> -Alex
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> > > >>>Rovira"
> > > >>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we
> > could
> > > >>>end
> > > >>> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems
> a
> > > >>>game
> > > >>> >we
> > > >>> >should not play...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or
> > > >>>".app"
> > > >>> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
> > > >>> >options.
> > > >>> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
> > > >>> >"apacheroyale.com"
> > > >>> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before
> > > >>>considering
> > > >>> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
> > > >>> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> > [1]
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > https%3A%2F%2Fdomai
> > > >>>>>n
> > > >>>>>s
> > > >>> .
> > > >>> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
> > > >>> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
> > > >>> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
> > > >>> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
> > > >>> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
> > > >>> >>eserved=0
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> > -Original Message-
> > > >>> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> > > >>> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> > > >>> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > > >>> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain
> > > >>>registration
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS
> at
> > > >>>$199.
> > > >>> >>I
> > > >>> >> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't
> be
> > > >>> >> surprised
> > > >>> >> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think
> > you
> > > >>>may
> > > >>> >> have
> > > >>> >> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Erik de Bruin]

gt;>> >
> > >>> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or
> > >>>".app"
> > >>> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
> > >>> >
> > >>> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
> > >>> >options.
> > >>> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
> > >>> >"apacheroyale.com"
> > >>> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before
> > >>>considering
> > >>> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
> > >>> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > [1]
> > >>>
> > >>>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > https%3A%2F%2Fdomai
> > >>>>>n
> > >>>>>s
> > >>> .
> > >>> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
> > >>> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
> > >>> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
> > >>> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
> > >>> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
> > >>> >>eserved=0
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > -Original Message-
> > >>> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> > >>> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> > >>> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >>> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain
> > >>>registration
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at
> > >>>$199.
> > >>> >>I
> > >>> >> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
> > >>> >> surprised
> > >>> >> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think
> you
> > >>>may
> > >>> >> have
> > >>> >> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass"
> but
> > >>>the
> > >>> >> "as"
> > >>> >> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs
> > >>>too,
> > >>> >>we
> > >>> >> > don't have to choose one.
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off
> in
> > >>> some
> > >>> >> way
> > >>> >> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than
> > >>>say,
> > >>> >> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > Thanks,
> > >>> >> > -Alex
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
> Carlos
> > >>> >> Rovira"
> > >>> >> > <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of
> > >>>carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> > >>> >> > wrote:
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > >Thanks Dany,
> > >>> >> > >
> > >>> >> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's
> > >>>fine
> > >>> >>with
> > >>> >> > >me, I'll be donating as well few buc

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[OmPrakash Muppirala]

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it possible for
> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That might
> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that domain if
> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there have been
> problems like that for other projects.
>

That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply redirect
them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge $0 for
just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain re-registration
every year.

Thanks,
Om


>
> Thoughts?
> -Alex
>
> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> >I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to redirect to
> >royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be nice
> to
> >have that domain no matter what.
> >
> >-Alex
> >
> >On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
> ><omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >>How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
> >>
> >>EdB
> >>
> >>
> >>+1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>
> >>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the
> >>>domain
> >>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
> >>>squatters.
> >>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch
> >>>of
> >>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
> >>>
> >>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
> >>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
> >>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
> >>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle
> >>>on
> >>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
> >>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the
> >>>rule.
> >>>
> >>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
> >>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
> >>>non-profit.
> >>>
> >>> My 2 cents,
> >>> -Alex
> >>>
> >>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> >>>Rovira"
> >>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could
> >>>end
> >>> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a
> >>>game
> >>> >we
> >>> >should not play...
> >>> >
> >>> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or
> >>>".app"
> >>> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
> >>> >
> >>> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
> >>> >options.
> >>> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
> >>> >"apacheroyale.com"
> >>> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before
> >>>considering
> >>> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
> >>> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > [1

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

It would be more likely to work if the Domain were purchased and then donated 
to the ASF with sufficient funds to renew it for N years.

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
> 
> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it possible for
> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That might
> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that domain if
> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there have been
> problems like that for other projects.
> 
> Thoughts?
> -Alex
> 
>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>> 
>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to redirect to
>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be nice to
>> have that domain no matter what.
>> 
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
>> <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
>>> 
>>> EdB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the
>>>> domain
>>>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
>>>> squatters.
>>>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch
>>>> of
>>>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>>>> 
>>>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
>>>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
>>>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
>>>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle
>>>> on
>>>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
>>>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the
>>>> rule.
>>>> 
>>>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
>>>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
>>>> non-profit.
>>>> 
>>>> My 2 cents,
>>>> -Alex
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>>>> Rovira"
>>>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could
>>>> end
>>>>> paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a
>>>> game
>>>>> we
>>>>> should not play...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or
>>>> ".app"
>>>>> (if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
>>>>> 
>>>>> We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
>>>>> options.
>>>>> For composed names, I think people would end trying first
>>>>> "apacheroyale.com"
>>>>> (or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before
>>>> considering
>>>>> adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
>>>>>> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [1]
>>>> 
>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomai
>&g

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Alex Harui]

Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it possible for
Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That might
satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that domain if
Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there have been
problems like that for other projects.

Thoughts?
-Alex

On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:

>I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to redirect to
>royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be nice to
>have that domain no matter what.
>
>-Alex
>
>On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
><omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>>
>>How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
>>
>>EdB
>>
>>
>>+1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>
>>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the
>>>domain
>>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
>>>squatters.
>>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch
>>>of
>>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>>>
>>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
>>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
>>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>>>
>>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
>>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle
>>>on
>>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
>>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the
>>>rule.
>>>
>>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
>>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
>>>non-profit.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents,
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>>>Rovira"
>>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could
>>>end
>>> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a
>>>game
>>> >we
>>> >should not play...
>>> >
>>> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or
>>>".app"
>>> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
>>> >
>>> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
>>> >options.
>>> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
>>> >"apacheroyale.com"
>>> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before
>>>considering
>>> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
>>> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > [1]
>>> 
>>>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomai
>>>>>n
>>>>>s
>>> .
>>> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
>>> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
>>> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
>>> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
>>> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
>>> >>eserved=0
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -Original Message-
>>> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
>>> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
>>> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re:

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Alex Harui]

I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to redirect to
royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be nice to
have that domain no matter what.

-Alex

On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
<omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>
>How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
>
>EdB
>
>
>+1
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Carlos,
>>
>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the
>>domain
>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
>>squatters.
>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch of
>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>>
>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>>
>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle
>>on
>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the
>>rule.
>>
>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
>>non-profit.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>>Rovira"
>> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could
>>end
>> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a
>>game
>> >we
>> >should not play...
>> >
>> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or
>>".app"
>> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
>> >
>> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
>> >options.
>> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
>> >"apacheroyale.com"
>> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before considering
>> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
>> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > [1]
>> 
>>>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomain
>>>>s
>> .
>> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
>> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
>> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
>> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
>> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
>> >>eserved=0
>> >> >
>> >> > -Original Message-
>> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
>> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
>> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain
>>registration
>> >> >
>> >> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at
>>$199.
>> >>I
>> >> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
>> >> surprised
>> >> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you
>>may
>> >> have
>> >> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but
>>the
>> >> "as"
>> >> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
>> >> >
>> >> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs
>>too,
>> >>we
>> >> 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[OmPrakash Muppirala]

On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:

How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?

EdB


+1




On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the domain
> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the squatters.
> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch of
> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>
> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>
> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle on
> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the rule.
>
> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are non-profit.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could end
> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a game
> >we
> >should not play...
> >
> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or ".app"
> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
> >
> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
> >options.
> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
> >"apacheroyale.com"
> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before considering
> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
> >
> >
> >
> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
> >>
> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomains
> .
> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
> >>eserved=0
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration
> >> >
> >> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.
> >>I
> >> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
> >> surprised
> >> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may
> >> have
> >> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the
> >> "as"
> >> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
> >> >
> >> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too,
> >>we
> >> > don't have to choose one.
> >> >
> >> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in
> some
> >> way
> >> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
> >> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > -Alex
> >> >
> >> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> >> Rovira"
> >> > <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Thanks Dany,
> >> > >
> >> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine
> >>with
> >> > >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
&g

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Erik de Bruin]

How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?

EdB



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the domain
> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the squatters.
> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch of
> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>
> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>
> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle on
> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the rule.
>
> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are non-profit.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could end
> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a game
> >we
> >should not play...
> >
> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or ".app"
> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
> >
> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
> >options.
> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
> >"apacheroyale.com"
> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before considering
> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
> >
> >
> >
> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
> >>
> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomains
> .
> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
> >>eserved=0
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration
> >> >
> >> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.
> >>I
> >> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
> >> surprised
> >> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may
> >> have
> >> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the
> >> "as"
> >> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
> >> >
> >> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too,
> >>we
> >> > don't have to choose one.
> >> >
> >> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in
> some
> >> way
> >> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
> >> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > -Alex
> >> >
> >> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> >> Rovira"
> >> > <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Thanks Dany,
> >> > >
> >> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine
> >>with
> >> > >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
> >> > >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see ope

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Alex Harui]

Hi Carlos,

I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the domain
for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the squatters.
It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch of
similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.

I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.

I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle on
at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the rule.

IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are non-profit.

My 2 cents,
-Alex

On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
<carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:

>I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could end
>paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a game
>we
>should not play...
>
>I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or ".app"
>(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
>
>We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
>options.
>For composed names, I think people would end trying first
>"apacheroyale.com"
>(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before considering
>adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
>
>
>
>2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
>> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>>
>> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>> >
>> >
>> > [1] 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomains.
>>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%7C01%7C%7C0702061
>>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
>>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
>>eserved=0
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
>> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
>> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration
>> >
>> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.
>>I
>> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
>> surprised
>> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may
>> have
>> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
>> >
>> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the
>> "as"
>> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
>> >
>> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too,
>>we
>> > don't have to choose one.
>> >
>> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some
>> way
>> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
>> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > -Alex
>> >
>> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>> Rovira"
>> > <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >Thanks Dany,
>> > >
>> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine
>>with
>> > >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
>> > >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a
>>thread
>> > >for
>> > >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose
>> that
>> > >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or
>> something
>> > >like that.
>> > >
>> > >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people
>>like
>> it
>> > >as you.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt <archeme...@mac.com>:
>> > >
>> > >> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
>> > >> i

RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Kessler CTR Mark J]

Same thing now even with an E

Royalesdk.com [1] or many others.

[1] https://domains.google.com/registrar?s=royalesdk.com

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Wetmore [mailto:cottag...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:10 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration

Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could end
paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a game we
should not play...

I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or ".app"
(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).

We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed options.
For composed names, I think people would end trying first "apacheroyale.com"
(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before considering
adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.



2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>:

> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>
> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
> >
> >
> > [1] https://domains.google.com/registrar?s=royalsdk=en
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration
> >
> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.  I
> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
> surprised
> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may
> have
> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
> >
> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the
> "as"
> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
> >
> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too, we
> > don't have to choose one.
> >
> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some
> way
> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> Rovira"
> > <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks Dany,
> > >
> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
> > >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
> > >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread
> > >for
> > >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose
> that
> > >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or
> something
> > >like that.
> > >
> > >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like
> it
> > >as you.
> > >
> > >
> > >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt <archeme...@mac.com>:
> > >
> > >> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
> > >> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some
> money.
> > >> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
> > >>
> > >> Dany
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > >> >
> > >> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
> > >> registered by
> > >> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my
> > >>domain
> > >> > operator and I see price about 30$.
> > >> >
> > >> > Piotr
> > >> >
> > >> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>:
> > >> >
> > >> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
> > >> >>
> > >> >> EdB
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin <
> e...@ixsoftware.nl>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12,
> which
> > >> I'll
> > >> >>> gladly donate :-)
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> EdB
> > >> >>>
> > >&g

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Andrew Wetmore]

Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:

> RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>
>
> [1] https://domains.google.com/registrar?s=royalsdk=en
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration
>
> AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.  I
> haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be surprised
> if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may have
> to still pay some other place to register the domain.
>
> Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the "as"
> was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
>
> Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too, we
> don't have to choose one.
>
> My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some way
> $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
> royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks Dany,
> >
> >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
> >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
> >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread
> >for
> >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose that
> >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or something
> >like that.
> >
> >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like it
> >as you.
> >
> >
> >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt <archeme...@mac.com>:
> >
> >> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
> >> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money.
> >> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
> >>
> >> Dany
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> >> >
> >> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
> >> registered by
> >> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my
> >>domain
> >> > operator and I see price about 30$.
> >> >
> >> > Piotr
> >> >
> >> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>:
> >> >
> >> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
> >> >>
> >> >> EdB
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which
> >> I'll
> >> >>> gladly donate :-)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> EdB
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io.
> >>:)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> 'royale.as' is available here:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nic
> .
> >>as%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C5ee0196900bd485a503808d501a4
> 7029%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
> >>8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636416728125097204=4J%
> 2B8Xvu15SZvqQ6FZ
> >>zk3bxK%2BhUSP1LDw3Lv0Ph97Tc8%3D=0
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require
> >>some
> >> >>>>> crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go
> >> for
>

RE: Royale website and domain registration

[Kessler CTR Mark J]

RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com


[1] https://domains.google.com/registrar?s=royalsdk=en

-Original Message-
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration

AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.  I
haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be surprised
if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may have
to still pay some other place to register the domain.

Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the "as"
was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.

Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too, we
don't have to choose one.

My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some way
$100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?

Thanks,
-Alex

On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
<carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:

>Thanks Dany,
>
>if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
>me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
>Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread
>for
>it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose that
>the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or something
>like that.
>
>The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like it
>as you.
>
>
>2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt <archeme...@mac.com>:
>
>> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
>> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money.
>> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
>>
>> Dany
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> >
>> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
>> >
>> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
>> registered by
>> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my
>>domain
>> > operator and I see price about 30$.
>> >
>> > Piotr
>> >
>> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>:
>> >
>> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>> >>
>> >> EdB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which
>> I'll
>> >>> gladly donate :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> EdB
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io.
>>:)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> 'royale.as' is available here:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nic.
>>as%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C5ee0196900bd485a503808d501a47029%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
>>8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636416728125097204=4J%2B8Xvu15SZvqQ6FZ
>>zk3bxK%2BhUSP1LDw3Lv0Ph97Tc8%3D=0
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require
>>some
>> >>>>> crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go
>> for
>> >>>> the
>> >>>>> .io which is way cooler ;-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> EdB
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> >>>>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Carlos,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
>> >> for
>> >>>>>> another year it could cost sa

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[OmPrakash Muppirala]

I vote for royale.io.  I can put in at least $100 towards the purchase of
the domain.

Others are free to chip in as much as they would like.

Thanks,
Om

On Sep 22, 2017 8:35 AM, "Alex Harui"  wrote:

> AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.  I
> haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be surprised
> if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may have
> to still pay some other place to register the domain.
>
> Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the "as"
> was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
>
> Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too, we
> don't have to choose one.
>
> My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some way
> $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
> royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> 
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks Dany,
> >
> >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
> >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
> >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread
> >for
> >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose that
> >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or something
> >like that.
> >
> >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like it
> >as you.
> >
> >
> >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :
> >
> >> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
> >> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money.
> >> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
> >>
> >> Dany
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> >> >
> >> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
> >> registered by
> >> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my
> >>domain
> >> > operator and I see price about 30$.
> >> >
> >> > Piotr
> >> >
> >> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >> >
> >> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
> >> >>
> >> >> EdB
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which
> >> I'll
> >> >>> gladly donate :-)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> EdB
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io.
> >>:)
> >> 
> >>  2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >> 
> >> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nic
> .
> >>as%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C5ee0196900bd485a503808d501a4
> 7029%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
> >>8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636416728125097204=4J%
> 2B8Xvu15SZvqQ6FZ
> >>zk3bxK%2BhUSP1LDw3Lv0Ph97Tc8%3D=0
> >> >
> >> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require
> >>some
> >> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go
> >> for
> >>  the
> >> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >> >
> >> > EdB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Carlos,
> >> >>
> >> >> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for
> extension
> >> >> for
> >> >> another year it could cost same ?
> >> >>
> >> >> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything
> >>bad
> >>  :) I
> >> >> like it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Piotr
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >>  carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> >> >> :
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi Erik,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This is my order of preference:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive,
> so
> >> >> we
> >> > must
> >> >>> give up with that :(
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
> >>  meaning. I
> >> >>> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
> >>  English
> >> >>> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
> >>  problematic
> >> > to
> >> >>> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
> >> >> (Samoa
> >> >>> Americana)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Alex Harui]

AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.  I
haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be surprised
if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may have
to still pay some other place to register the domain.

Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the "as"
was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.

Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too, we
don't have to choose one.

My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some way
$100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?

Thanks,
-Alex

On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
 wrote:

>Thanks Dany,
>
>if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
>me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
>Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread
>for
>it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose that
>the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or something
>like that.
>
>The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like it
>as you.
>
>
>2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :
>
>> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
>> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money.
>> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
>>
>> Dany
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> >
>> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
>> >
>> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
>> registered by
>> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my
>>domain
>> > operator and I see price about 30$.
>> >
>> > Piotr
>> >
>> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>> >
>> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>> >>
>> >> EdB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which
>> I'll
>> >>> gladly donate :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> EdB
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io.
>>:)
>> 
>>  2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>> 
>> > 'royale.as' is available here:
>> >
>> > 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nic.
>>as%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C5ee0196900bd485a503808d501a47029%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
>>8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636416728125097204=4J%2B8Xvu15SZvqQ6FZ
>>zk3bxK%2BhUSP1LDw3Lv0Ph97Tc8%3D=0
>> >
>> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require
>>some
>> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go
>> for
>>  the
>> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
>> >
>> > EdB
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Carlos,
>> >>
>> >> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
>> >> for
>> >> another year it could cost same ?
>> >>
>> >> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything
>>bad
>>  :) I
>> >> like it.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Piotr
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
>>  carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
>> >> :
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Erik,
>> >>>
>> >>> This is my order of preference:
>> >>>
>> >>> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
>> >> we
>> > must
>> >>> give up with that :(
>> >>>
>> >>> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
>>  meaning. I
>> >>> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
>>  English
>> >>> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
>>  problematic
>> > to
>> >>> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
>> >> (Samoa
>> >>> Americana)
>> >>>
>> >>> Other top level options available (before going with more
>>complex
>> > names)
>> >>> that could fit our purposes:
>> >>>
>> >>> * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
>>  will
>> >> build
>> >>> Apps ;)
>> >>> * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
>> >>> * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
>> >> something
>> >>> more related to us
>> >>>
>> >>> maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
>> >>> * 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

Thanks Dany,

if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread for
it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose that
the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or something
like that.

The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like it
as you.


2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :

> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money.
> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
>
> Dany
>
>
>
>
>
> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> >
> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
> registered by
> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my domain
> > operator and I see price about 30$.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >
> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
> >>
> >> EdB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which
> I'll
> >>> gladly donate :-)
> >>>
> >>> EdB
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
> 
>  2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> 
> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >
> > https://www.nic.as/
> >
> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go
> for
>  the
> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Carlos,
> >>
> >> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
> >> for
> >> another year it could cost same ?
> >>
> >> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
>  :) I
> >> like it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Piotr
> >>
> >>
> >> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
>  carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> >> :
> >>
> >>> Hi Erik,
> >>>
> >>> This is my order of preference:
> >>>
> >>> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
> >> we
> > must
> >>> give up with that :(
> >>>
> >>> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
>  meaning. I
> >>> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
>  English
> >>> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
>  problematic
> > to
> >>> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
> >> (Samoa
> >>> Americana)
> >>>
> >>> Other top level options available (before going with more complex
> > names)
> >>> that could fit our purposes:
> >>>
> >>> * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
>  will
> >> build
> >>> Apps ;)
> >>> * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> >>> * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
> >> something
> >>> more related to us
> >>>
> >>> maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> >>> * royale.inc
> >>> * royale.wow
> >>> * royale.now
> >>> * royale.art
> >>>
> >>> What do you think?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
> > :
> >>>
>  Erik,
> 
>  If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
> >> better.
> >>> :)
> 
>  Piotr
> 
>  On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
> > wrote:
> 
> > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the
> >> bidding
> >> seems
> >>> to
> > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be
> >> ;-))
> >
> > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures
>  images
> > of
>  rather
> > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> >
> > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
>  exotic
> > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
>  royalesdk.org
> > ,
> > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Erik,

for me insert the "4" is not recommended since complicates too much the
domain. And "royale.rocks" is better, but I think other options are more
sync with our mission (.web, .app, )



2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :

> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> wrote:
>
> > We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which I'll
> > gladly donate :-)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
> >>
> >> 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >>
> >> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >> >
> >> > https://www.nic.as/
> >> >
> >> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
> >> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for
> >> the
> >> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >> >
> >> > EdB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Carlos,
> >> > >
> >> > > I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
> for
> >> > > another year it could cost same ?
> >> > >
> >> > > +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
> >> :) I
> >> > > like it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Piotr
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> >> > >:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Erik,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This is my order of preference:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
> we
> >> > must
> >> > > > give up with that :(
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
> >> meaning. I
> >> > > > don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
> >> English
> >> > > > language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
> >> problematic
> >> > to
> >> > > > have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
> (Samoa
> >> > > > Americana)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Other top level options available (before going with more complex
> >> > names)
> >> > > > that could fit our purposes:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
> >> will
> >> > > build
> >> > > > Apps ;)
> >> > > > * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> >> > > > * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
> >> > > something
> >> > > > more related to us
> >> > > >
> >> > > > maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> >> > > > * royale.inc
> >> > > > * royale.wow
> >> > > > * royale.now
> >> > > > * royale.art
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What do you think?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
> >> >:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Erik,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
> >> > > better.
> >> > > > :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Piotr
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the
> bidding
> >> > > seems
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be
> ;-))
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures
> >> images
> >> > of
> >> > > > > rather
> >> > > > > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
> >> exotic
> >> > > > > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> >> > > > > royalesdk.org
> >> > > > > > ,
> >> > > > > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > EdB
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin <
> >> e...@ixsoftware.nl
> >> > >
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > EdB
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> Hi Erik,
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain
> here:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to
> >> show
> >> > in
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > >> mailing list.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> You commented that you can register it for the project
> 

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Mark,

it seems Royale.it is not available

2017-09-22 11:43 GMT+02:00 Kessler CTR Mark J :

> Royale.IT?
>
>
> -Mark K
>



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Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Dany Dhondt]

Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money. It’s 
the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!

Dany





> Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> 
> I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is registered by
> someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my domain
> operator and I see price about 30$.
> 
> Piotr
> 
> 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> 
>> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>> 
>> EdB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which I'll
>>> gladly donate :-)
>>> 
>>> EdB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
 If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
 
 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
 
> 'royale.as' is available here:
> 
> https://www.nic.as/
> 
> But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
> crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for
 the
> .io which is way cooler ;-)
> 
> EdB
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Carlos,
>> 
>> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
>> for
>> another year it could cost same ?
>> 
>> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
 :) I
>> like it.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Piotr
>> 
>> 
>> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
 carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
>> :
>> 
>>> Hi Erik,
>>> 
>>> This is my order of preference:
>>> 
>>> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
>> we
> must
>>> give up with that :(
>>> 
>>> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
 meaning. I
>>> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
 English
>>> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
 problematic
> to
>>> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
>> (Samoa
>>> Americana)
>>> 
>>> Other top level options available (before going with more complex
> names)
>>> that could fit our purposes:
>>> 
>>> * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
 will
>> build
>>> Apps ;)
>>> * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
>>> * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
>> something
>>> more related to us
>>> 
>>> maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
>>> * royale.inc
>>> * royale.wow
>>> * royale.now
>>> * royale.art
>>> 
>>> What do you think?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
> :
>>> 
 Erik,
 
 If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
>> better.
>>> :)
 
 Piotr
 
 On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
> wrote:
 
> OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the
>> bidding
>> seems
>>> to
> start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be
>> ;-))
> 
> I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures
 images
> of
 rather
> majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> 
> I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
 exotic
> extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
 royalesdk.org
> ,
> royaleframework.net, etc.)
> 
> EdB
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin <
 e...@ixsoftware.nl
>> 
 wrote:
> 
>> I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
>> 
>> EdB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
 carlosrov...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Erik,
>>> 
>>> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain
>> here:
>>> 
>>> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
>>> 
>>> I will working privately inside until I have something to
 show
> in
>>> the
>>> mailing list.
>>> 
>>> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
>>> 
>>> You commented that you can register it for 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Let's wait what do others think about donating something.

I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is registered by
someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my domain
operator and I see price about 30$.

Piotr

2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :

> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> wrote:
>
> > We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which I'll
> > gladly donate :-)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
> >>
> >> 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >>
> >> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >> >
> >> > https://www.nic.as/
> >> >
> >> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
> >> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for
> >> the
> >> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >> >
> >> > EdB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Carlos,
> >> > >
> >> > > I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
> for
> >> > > another year it could cost same ?
> >> > >
> >> > > +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
> >> :) I
> >> > > like it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Piotr
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> >> > >:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Erik,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This is my order of preference:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
> we
> >> > must
> >> > > > give up with that :(
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
> >> meaning. I
> >> > > > don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
> >> English
> >> > > > language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
> >> problematic
> >> > to
> >> > > > have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
> (Samoa
> >> > > > Americana)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Other top level options available (before going with more complex
> >> > names)
> >> > > > that could fit our purposes:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
> >> will
> >> > > build
> >> > > > Apps ;)
> >> > > > * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> >> > > > * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
> >> > > something
> >> > > > more related to us
> >> > > >
> >> > > > maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> >> > > > * royale.inc
> >> > > > * royale.wow
> >> > > > * royale.now
> >> > > > * royale.art
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What do you think?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
> >> >:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Erik,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
> >> > > better.
> >> > > > :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Piotr
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the
> bidding
> >> > > seems
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be
> ;-))
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures
> >> images
> >> > of
> >> > > > > rather
> >> > > > > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
> >> exotic
> >> > > > > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> >> > > > > royalesdk.org
> >> > > > > > ,
> >> > > > > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > EdB
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin <
> >> e...@ixsoftware.nl
> >> > >
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > EdB
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> Hi Erik,
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain
> here:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to
> >> show
> >> > in
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > >> mailing list.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> You 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Erik de Bruin]

or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12

EdB



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin  wrote:

> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which I'll
> gladly donate :-)
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
>>
>> 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>>
>> > 'royale.as' is available here:
>> >
>> > https://www.nic.as/
>> >
>> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
>> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for
>> the
>> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
>> >
>> > EdB
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Carlos,
>> > >
>> > > I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension for
>> > > another year it could cost same ?
>> > >
>> > > +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
>> :) I
>> > > like it.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Piotr
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
>> > >:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Erik,
>> > > >
>> > > > This is my order of preference:
>> > > >
>> > > > - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so we
>> > must
>> > > > give up with that :(
>> > > >
>> > > > - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
>> meaning. I
>> > > > don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
>> English
>> > > > language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
>> problematic
>> > to
>> > > > have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country? (Samoa
>> > > > Americana)
>> > > >
>> > > > Other top level options available (before going with more complex
>> > names)
>> > > > that could fit our purposes:
>> > > >
>> > > > * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
>> will
>> > > build
>> > > > Apps ;)
>> > > > * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
>> > > > * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
>> > > something
>> > > > more related to us
>> > > >
>> > > > maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
>> > > > * royale.inc
>> > > > * royale.wow
>> > > > * royale.now
>> > > > * royale.art
>> > > >
>> > > > What do you think?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki > >:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Erik,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
>> > > better.
>> > > > :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Piotr
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding
>> > > seems
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures
>> images
>> > of
>> > > > > rather
>> > > > > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
>> exotic
>> > > > > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
>> > > > > royalesdk.org
>> > > > > > ,
>> > > > > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > EdB
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin <
>> e...@ixsoftware.nl
>> > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > EdB
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> Hi Erik,
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to
>> show
>> > in
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > >> mailing list.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't
>> > know
>> > > > if
>> > > > > > you
>> > > > > > >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So,
>> could
>> > you
>> > > > > help
>> > > > > > in
>> > > > > > >> that task? It would be of great help.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is
>> possible.
>> > As
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > >> domain
>> > > > > > >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and
>> > talk
>> > > > if
>> > > > > is
>> > > > > > >> in
>> > > > > > >> position to sell it.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Erik de Bruin]

We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which I'll
gladly donate :-)

EdB



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki 
wrote:

> If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
>
> 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>
> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >
> > https://www.nic.as/
> >
> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for
> the
> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Carlos,
> > >
> > > I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension for
> > > another year it could cost same ?
> > >
> > > +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
> :) I
> > > like it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > >
> > > 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> > >:
> > >
> > > > Hi Erik,
> > > >
> > > > This is my order of preference:
> > > >
> > > > - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so we
> > must
> > > > give up with that :(
> > > >
> > > > - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
> meaning. I
> > > > don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in English
> > > > language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
> problematic
> > to
> > > > have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country? (Samoa
> > > > Americana)
> > > >
> > > > Other top level options available (before going with more complex
> > names)
> > > > that could fit our purposes:
> > > >
> > > > * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people will
> > > build
> > > > Apps ;)
> > > > * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> > > > * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
> > > something
> > > > more related to us
> > > >
> > > > maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> > > > * royale.inc
> > > > * royale.wow
> > > > * royale.now
> > > > * royale.art
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki  >:
> > > >
> > > > > Erik,
> > > > >
> > > > > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
> > > better.
> > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Piotr
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding
> > > seems
> > > > to
> > > > > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images
> > of
> > > > > rather
> > > > > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
> exotic
> > > > > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> > > > > royalesdk.org
> > > > > > ,
> > > > > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > EdB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin <
> e...@ixsoftware.nl
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > EdB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi Erik,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to show
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> mailing list.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't
> > know
> > > > if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could
> > you
> > > > > help
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > >> that task? It would be of great help.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible.
> > As
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> domain
> > > > > > >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and
> > talk
> > > > if
> > > > > is
> > > > > > >> in
> > > > > > >> position to sell it.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as"
> > > > termination
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to
> > > Samoa
> > > > > > >> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be
> > > > > > strange...or
> > > > > > >> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others
> > > 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Erik de Bruin]

'royale.as' is available here:

https://www.nic.as/

But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for the
.io which is way cooler ;-)

EdB



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki 
wrote:

> Carlos,
>
> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension for
> another year it could cost same ?
>
> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad :) I
> like it.
>
> Thanks,
> Piotr
>
>
> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :
>
> > Hi Erik,
> >
> > This is my order of preference:
> >
> > - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so we must
> > give up with that :(
> >
> > - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative meaning. I
> > don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in English
> > language could see some problems. Aside from that could be problematic to
> > have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country? (Samoa
> > Americana)
> >
> > Other top level options available (before going with more complex names)
> > that could fit our purposes:
> >
> > * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people will
> build
> > Apps ;)
> > * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> > * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
> something
> > more related to us
> >
> > maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> > * royale.inc
> > * royale.wow
> > * royale.now
> > * royale.art
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :
> >
> > > Erik,
> > >
> > > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
> better.
> > :)
> > >
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin  wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding
> seems
> > to
> > > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
> > > >
> > > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images of
> > > rather
> > > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> > > >
> > > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with exotic
> > > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> > > royalesdk.org
> > > > ,
> > > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> > > >
> > > > EdB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> > > > >
> > > > > EdB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Erik,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to show in
> > the
> > > > >> mailing list.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't know
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could you
> > > help
> > > > in
> > > > >> that task? It would be of great help.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible. As
> > the
> > > > >> domain
> > > > >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and talk
> > if
> > > is
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> position to sell it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as"
> > termination
> > > > for
> > > > >> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to
> Samoa
> > > > >> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be
> > > > strange...or
> > > > >> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others
> could
> > > > throw
> > > > >> some light on this...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I think we should delay other options like "apacheroyale." or
> > > > >> "royaleframework.", if we can't get that kind of domains with
> > > > >> "royale"
> > > > >> alone and ".io" or ".as" or other options folks could propose as
> > > > suffixes.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > > > >
> > > > > T. 06-51952295 <06%2051952295>
> > > > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > > >
> > > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > > >
> > > > T. 06-51952295
> > > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > 
> >
> > Carlos Rovira
> >
> 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Carlos,

I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension for
another year it could cost same ?

+1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad :) I
like it.

Thanks,
Piotr


2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :

> Hi Erik,
>
> This is my order of preference:
>
> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so we must
> give up with that :(
>
> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative meaning. I
> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in English
> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be problematic to
> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country? (Samoa
> Americana)
>
> Other top level options available (before going with more complex names)
> that could fit our purposes:
>
> * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people will build
> Apps ;)
> * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development", something
> more related to us
>
> maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> * royale.inc
> * royale.wow
> * royale.now
> * royale.art
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :
>
> > Erik,
> >
> > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even better.
> :)
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin  wrote:
> >
> > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding seems
> to
> > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
> > >
> > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images of
> > rather
> > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> > >
> > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with exotic
> > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> > royalesdk.org
> > > ,
> > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> > >
> > > EdB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> > > >
> > > > EdB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Erik,
> > > >>
> > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> > > >>
> > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to show in
> the
> > > >> mailing list.
> > > >>
> > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> > > >>
> > > >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't know
> if
> > > you
> > > >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could you
> > help
> > > in
> > > >> that task? It would be of great help.
> > > >>
> > > >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible. As
> the
> > > >> domain
> > > >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and talk
> if
> > is
> > > >> in
> > > >> position to sell it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as"
> termination
> > > for
> > > >> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to Samoa
> > > >> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be
> > > strange...or
> > > >> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others could
> > > throw
> > > >> some light on this...
> > > >>
> > > >> I think we should delay other options like "apacheroyale." or
> > > >> "royaleframework.", if we can't get that kind of domains with
> > > >> "royale"
> > > >> alone and ".io" or ".as" or other options folks could propose as
> > > suffixes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > > >
> > > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > > >
> > > > T. 06-51952295 <06%2051952295>
> > > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > >
> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > >
> > > T. 06-51952295
> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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>
> 
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Erik,

This is my order of preference:

- royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so we must
give up with that :(

- royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative meaning. I
don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in English
language could see some problems. Aside from that could be problematic to
have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country? (Samoa
Americana)

Other top level options available (before going with more complex names)
that could fit our purposes:

* royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people will build
Apps ;)
* royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
* royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development", something
more related to us

maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
* royale.inc
* royale.wow
* royale.now
* royale.art

What do you think?



2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :

> Erik,
>
> If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even better. :)
>
> Piotr
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin  wrote:
>
> > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding seems to
> > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
> >
> > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images of
> rather
> > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> >
> > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with exotic
> > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> royalesdk.org
> > ,
> > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> > >
> > > EdB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Erik,
> > >>
> > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
> > >>
> > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> > >>
> > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to show in the
> > >> mailing list.
> > >>
> > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> > >>
> > >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't know if
> > you
> > >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could you
> help
> > in
> > >> that task? It would be of great help.
> > >>
> > >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible. As the
> > >> domain
> > >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and talk if
> is
> > >> in
> > >> position to sell it.
> > >>
> > >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as" termination
> > for
> > >> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to Samoa
> > >> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be
> > strange...or
> > >> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others could
> > throw
> > >> some light on this...
> > >>
> > >> I think we should delay other options like "apacheroyale." or
> > >> "royaleframework.", if we can't get that kind of domains with
> > >> "royale"
> > >> alone and ".io" or ".as" or other options folks could propose as
> > suffixes.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > >
> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > >
> > > T. 06-51952295 <06%2051952295>
> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ix Multimedia Software
> >
> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >
> > T. 06-51952295
> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >
>



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Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Erik,

If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even better. :)

Piotr

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin  wrote:

> OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding seems to
> start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
>
> I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images of rather
> majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
>
> I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with exotic
> extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name: royalesdk.org
> ,
> royaleframework.net, etc.)
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin  wrote:
>
> > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Erik,
> >>
> >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
> >>
> >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> >>
> >> I will working privately inside until I have something to show in the
> >> mailing list.
> >>
> >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> >>
> >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't know if
> you
> >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could you help
> in
> >> that task? It would be of great help.
> >>
> >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible. As the
> >> domain
> >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and talk if is
> >> in
> >> position to sell it.
> >>
> >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as" termination
> for
> >> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to Samoa
> >> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be
> strange...or
> >> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others could
> throw
> >> some light on this...
> >>
> >> I think we should delay other options like "apacheroyale." or
> >> "royaleframework.", if we can't get that kind of domains with
> >> "royale"
> >> alone and ".io" or ".as" or other options folks could propose as
> suffixes.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ix Multimedia Software
> >
> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >
> > T. 06-51952295 <06%2051952295>
> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ix Multimedia Software
>
> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295
> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Erik de Bruin]

OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding seems to
start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))

I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images of rather
majestic, well endowed hindquarters.

I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with exotic
extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name: royalesdk.org,
royaleframework.net, etc.)

EdB



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin  wrote:

> I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Erik,
>>
>> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
>>
>> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
>>
>> I will working privately inside until I have something to show in the
>> mailing list.
>>
>> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
>>
>> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't know if you
>> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could you help in
>> that task? It would be of great help.
>>
>> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible. As the
>> domain
>> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and talk if is
>> in
>> position to sell it.
>>
>> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as" termination for
>> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to Samoa
>> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be strange...or
>> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others could throw
>> some light on this...
>>
>> I think we should delay other options like "apacheroyale." or
>> "royaleframework.", if we can't get that kind of domains with
>> "royale"
>> alone and ".io" or ".as" or other options folks could propose as suffixes.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Carlos Rovira
>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ix Multimedia Software
>
> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295 <06%2051952295>
> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>



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