Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-12 Thread Jason Dillon
I meant more like rearranging things to reduce the space. Anyways not a big 
deal. Can always tweak it later. 

--jason


-Original Message-
From: Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:19:22 
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

I just used the same banner we have in the web site, we could make it thinner 
if needed.
As for the bread-crumbs height, I think that's pretty standard. Although I have 
not fully tested it, 
the templates used to automatically export the content to HTML accepts embedded 
css so we could 
potentially customize a lot more.

Cheers!
Hernan

Jason Dillon wrote:
>> On 5/11/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's  
>>> confluence wiki may look like once
>>> cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html
>>>
>>> Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)
> 
> 
> Anyway we can figure how to reduce some of the logo/bread-crumbs/ 
> toolbar height?
> 
> --jason
> 


Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-12 Thread Hernan Cunico
I agree, it would be a really nice hit if we can include it in the distribution which, BTW, it rises 
again the call for volunteers to contribute with the project's documentation.


If anybody is able to contribute with the project's documentation, in any possible way, this is the 
time for doing it :) Please feel free to ping me with any questions, concerns, suggestions.


Cheers!
Hernan

Jacek Laskowski wrote:

On 5/11/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi All,
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's 
confluence wiki may look like once

cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.


...


http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html

Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)



Whow, that looks pretty! If it becomes part of our distribution it
will surely be a major differentiator against other application
servers, esp. open source ones. I have always liked BEA WebLogic for
their astonishing documentation online so when people realize we've
got alike we're winners! Thanks Hernan!


Hernan



Jacek



Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-12 Thread Hernan Cunico

I just used the same banner we have in the web site, we could make it thinner 
if needed.
As for the bread-crumbs height, I think that's pretty standard. Although I have not fully tested it, 
the templates used to automatically export the content to HTML accepts embedded css so we could 
potentially customize a lot more.


Cheers!
Hernan

Jason Dillon wrote:

On 5/11/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi All,
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's  
confluence wiki may look like once

cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.


...


http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html

Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)



Anyway we can figure how to reduce some of the logo/bread-crumbs/ 
toolbar height?


--jason



Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-11 Thread Aaron Mulder

Looks like it addresses my gripes with the current confluence pages.  Thanks!

I also agree with the other comment that it would be ideal to have
separate 1.0 and 1.1 "spaces" -- which is to say, separate
documentation sets.  Ultimately I think version N should have
everything that version N-1 had only updated and with a "what changed"
page and covering any new features.

Thanks,
   Aaron

On 5/11/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi All,
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's confluence wiki 
may look like once
cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.

Available at the following link is just a single page, static draft based on 
what is in the oven for
Geronimo v1.1 documentation. The new confluence wiki will be running a plugin 
that automatically
exports the new content into HTML format so it can be served as static content 
increasing the
performance.

Not only that, the HTML exports can be configured using templates so we can 
select the information
we want to display, for example removing the classic "Added by / last edited 
by" if it turns to be
an issue.

Three key things to pay special attention from the template used are, obvious 
banner at the top of
the page, user names removed and Apache license disclaimer at the very bottom 
of each page.

http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html

Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)

Cheers!
Hernan




Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-11 Thread Jason Dillon

On 5/11/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi All,
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's  
confluence wiki may look like once

cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.

...

http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html

Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)


Anyway we can figure how to reduce some of the logo/bread-crumbs/ 
toolbar height?


--jason


Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-11 Thread Jacek Laskowski

On 5/11/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi All,
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's confluence wiki 
may look like once
cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.

...

http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html

Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)


Whow, that looks pretty! If it becomes part of our distribution it
will surely be a major differentiator against other application
servers, esp. open source ones. I have always liked BEA WebLogic for
their astonishing documentation online so when people realize we've
got alike we're winners! Thanks Hernan!


Hernan


Jacek

--
Jacek Laskowski
http://www.laskowski.net.pl


Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-11 Thread Matt Hogstrom

Thanks Hernan for plugging on this.

Hernan Cunico wrote:
Yup, once we move to cwiki I will reorg the documentation, and along 
comes another call for volunteers to contribute with this effort :)


The plan is, each release doc goes into it's own space, other docs will 
be grouped by relevance into their own separated spaces. The main 
pointers to those spaces will be from the Geronimo web site.


Having individual spaces will give us more flexibility for managing 
them, better structure, reduced footprint for the exports, improved 
performance, etc, overall content will be more organized.


It is funny, on my local confluence installation, I have been working on 
that reorganization for some time now and I called the spaces (the short 
names) in the same way :D


We are working with the infrastructure team to see what's needed to go 
live with cwiki.apache.org


Cheers!
Hernan

Jason Dillon wrote:

Just a thought... we may eventually want to have a space per-version
for our documentation.

GDOCS10
GDOCS11
etc...

I think we should not limit ourselves to one space, but use them to
organize documents on a very high-level.

--jason


On 5/11/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I just wanted to show how the doc will potentially look like, just 
the look & feel. The content is
being baked and what is shown there is not the main page, just a 
tentative TOC under development for

the Geronimo v1.1 documentation

Once cwiki is implemented, the main page should be on the Geronimo 
web site pointing to the specific
Geronimo's version and available project's documentation. In plain 
English it would be something like:


Documentation page
- Apache Geronimo v1.0 - User's guide
- Apache Geronimo v1.1 - User's guide
- Apache Geronimo - Developer's guide
...

On the draft I sent, I just wanted to highlight the top banner, the 
removal of user names and the
ASL license disclaimer at the bottom of each page, not the actual 
content. However, this is a good
opportunity to refresh the call for volunteers to contribute with the 
Project's documentation.


Just in case you forgotten ;) , the TOC for Geronimo's v1.1 
documentation is available at the

following URL:

http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/Apache+Geronimo+V1.1+-+Documentation 



If anybody is able to contribute with the project's documentation, in 
any possible way, please feel
free to ping me if you have any questions, concerns, suggestions, 
 Thanks in advance !!!


Cheers!
Hernan



Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Looks good Hernan.  For context, is this the main documentation page ?
> Perhaps it would make it clearer to call this the "Project User's 
Guide"

> so as to avoid confusion between this and other forms of documentation
> at developerworks, articles, etc.
>
> Hernan Cunico wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's
>> confluence wiki may look like once
>> cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.
>>
>> Available at the following link is just a single page, static draft
>> based on what is in the oven for Geronimo v1.1 documentation. The new
>> confluence wiki will be running a plugin that automatically exports
>> the new content into HTML format so it can be served as static 
content

>> increasing the performance.
>>
>> Not only that, the HTML exports can be configured using templates so
>> we can select the information we want to display, for example 
removing

>> the classic "Added by / last edited by" if it turns to be an issue.
>>
>> Three key things to pay special attention from the template used are,
>> obvious banner at the top of the page, user names removed and Apache
>> license disclaimer at the very bottom of each page.
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html
>>
>> Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Hernan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>









Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-11 Thread Hernan Cunico
Yup, once we move to cwiki I will reorg the documentation, and along comes another call for 
volunteers to contribute with this effort :)


The plan is, each release doc goes into it's own space, other docs will be grouped by relevance into 
their own separated spaces. The main pointers to those spaces will be from the Geronimo web site.


Having individual spaces will give us more flexibility for managing them, better structure, reduced 
footprint for the exports, improved performance, etc, overall content will be more organized.


It is funny, on my local confluence installation, I have been working on that reorganization for 
some time now and I called the spaces (the short names) in the same way :D


We are working with the infrastructure team to see what's needed to go live 
with cwiki.apache.org

Cheers!
Hernan

Jason Dillon wrote:

Just a thought... we may eventually want to have a space per-version
for our documentation.

GDOCS10
GDOCS11
etc...

I think we should not limit ourselves to one space, but use them to
organize documents on a very high-level.

--jason


On 5/11/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I just wanted to show how the doc will potentially look like, just the 
look & feel. The content is
being baked and what is shown there is not the main page, just a 
tentative TOC under development for

the Geronimo v1.1 documentation

Once cwiki is implemented, the main page should be on the Geronimo web 
site pointing to the specific
Geronimo's version and available project's documentation. In plain 
English it would be something like:


Documentation page
- Apache Geronimo v1.0 - User's guide
- Apache Geronimo v1.1 - User's guide
- Apache Geronimo - Developer's guide
...

On the draft I sent, I just wanted to highlight the top banner, the 
removal of user names and the
ASL license disclaimer at the bottom of each page, not the actual 
content. However, this is a good
opportunity to refresh the call for volunteers to contribute with the 
Project's documentation.


Just in case you forgotten ;) , the TOC for Geronimo's v1.1 
documentation is available at the

following URL:

http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/Apache+Geronimo+V1.1+-+Documentation 



If anybody is able to contribute with the project's documentation, in 
any possible way, please feel
free to ping me if you have any questions, concerns, suggestions,  
Thanks in advance !!!


Cheers!
Hernan



Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Looks good Hernan.  For context, is this the main documentation page ?
> Perhaps it would make it clearer to call this the "Project User's 
Guide"

> so as to avoid confusion between this and other forms of documentation
> at developerworks, articles, etc.
>
> Hernan Cunico wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's
>> confluence wiki may look like once
>> cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.
>>
>> Available at the following link is just a single page, static draft
>> based on what is in the oven for Geronimo v1.1 documentation. The new
>> confluence wiki will be running a plugin that automatically exports
>> the new content into HTML format so it can be served as static content
>> increasing the performance.
>>
>> Not only that, the HTML exports can be configured using templates so
>> we can select the information we want to display, for example removing
>> the classic "Added by / last edited by" if it turns to be an issue.
>>
>> Three key things to pay special attention from the template used are,
>> obvious banner at the top of the page, user names removed and Apache
>> license disclaimer at the very bottom of each page.
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html
>>
>> Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Hernan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>





Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-11 Thread Jason Dillon

Just a thought... we may eventually want to have a space per-version
for our documentation.

GDOCS10
GDOCS11
etc...

I think we should not limit ourselves to one space, but use them to
organize documents on a very high-level.

--jason


On 5/11/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I just wanted to show how the doc will potentially look like, just the look & 
feel. The content is
being baked and what is shown there is not the main page, just a tentative TOC 
under development for
the Geronimo v1.1 documentation

Once cwiki is implemented, the main page should be on the Geronimo web site 
pointing to the specific
Geronimo's version and available project's documentation. In plain English it 
would be something like:

Documentation page
- Apache Geronimo v1.0 - User's guide
- Apache Geronimo v1.1 - User's guide
- Apache Geronimo - Developer's guide
...

On the draft I sent, I just wanted to highlight the top banner, the removal of 
user names and the
ASL license disclaimer at the bottom of each page, not the actual content. 
However, this is a good
opportunity to refresh the call for volunteers to contribute with the Project's 
documentation.

Just in case you forgotten ;) , the TOC for Geronimo's v1.1 documentation is 
available at the
following URL:

http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/Apache+Geronimo+V1.1+-+Documentation

If anybody is able to contribute with the project's documentation, in any 
possible way, please feel
free to ping me if you have any questions, concerns, suggestions,  Thanks 
in advance !!!

Cheers!
Hernan



Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Looks good Hernan.  For context, is this the main documentation page ?
> Perhaps it would make it clearer to call this the "Project User's Guide"
> so as to avoid confusion between this and other forms of documentation
> at developerworks, articles, etc.
>
> Hernan Cunico wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's
>> confluence wiki may look like once
>> cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.
>>
>> Available at the following link is just a single page, static draft
>> based on what is in the oven for Geronimo v1.1 documentation. The new
>> confluence wiki will be running a plugin that automatically exports
>> the new content into HTML format so it can be served as static content
>> increasing the performance.
>>
>> Not only that, the HTML exports can be configured using templates so
>> we can select the information we want to display, for example removing
>> the classic "Added by / last edited by" if it turns to be an issue.
>>
>> Three key things to pay special attention from the template used are,
>> obvious banner at the top of the page, user names removed and Apache
>> license disclaimer at the very bottom of each page.
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html
>>
>> Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Hernan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-11 Thread Hernan Cunico
I just wanted to show how the doc will potentially look like, just the look & feel. The content is 
being baked and what is shown there is not the main page, just a tentative TOC under development for 
the Geronimo v1.1 documentation


Once cwiki is implemented, the main page should be on the Geronimo web site pointing to the specific 
Geronimo's version and available project's documentation. In plain English it would be something like:


Documentation page
- Apache Geronimo v1.0 - User's guide
- Apache Geronimo v1.1 - User's guide
- Apache Geronimo - Developer's guide
...

On the draft I sent, I just wanted to highlight the top banner, the removal of user names and the 
ASL license disclaimer at the bottom of each page, not the actual content. However, this is a good 
opportunity to refresh the call for volunteers to contribute with the Project's documentation.


Just in case you forgotten ;) , the TOC for Geronimo's v1.1 documentation is available at the 
following URL:


http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/Apache+Geronimo+V1.1+-+Documentation

If anybody is able to contribute with the project's documentation, in any possible way, please feel 
free to ping me if you have any questions, concerns, suggestions,  Thanks in advance !!!


Cheers!
Hernan



Matt Hogstrom wrote:
Looks good Hernan.  For context, is this the main documentation page ?  
Perhaps it would make it clearer to call this the "Project User's Guide" 
so as to avoid confusion between this and other forms of documentation 
at developerworks, articles, etc.


Hernan Cunico wrote:


Hi All,
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's 
confluence wiki may look like once

cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.

Available at the following link is just a single page, static draft 
based on what is in the oven for Geronimo v1.1 documentation. The new 
confluence wiki will be running a plugin that automatically exports 
the new content into HTML format so it can be served as static content 
increasing the performance.


Not only that, the HTML exports can be configured using templates so 
we can select the information we want to display, for example removing 
the classic "Added by / last edited by" if it turns to be an issue.


Three key things to pay special attention from the template used are, 
obvious banner at the top of the page, user names removed and Apache 
license disclaimer at the very bottom of each page.


http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html

Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)

Cheers!
Hernan








Re: Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-11 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Looks good Hernan.  For context, is this the main documentation page ?  Perhaps it would make it 
clearer to call this the "Project User's Guide" so as to avoid confusion between this and other 
forms of documentation at developerworks, articles, etc.


Hernan Cunico wrote:

Hi All,
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's 
confluence wiki may look like once

cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.

Available at the following link is just a single page, static draft 
based on what is in the oven for Geronimo v1.1 documentation. The new 
confluence wiki will be running a plugin that automatically exports the 
new content into HTML format so it can be served as static content 
increasing the performance.


Not only that, the HTML exports can be configured using templates so we 
can select the information we want to display, for example removing the 
classic "Added by / last edited by" if it turns to be an issue.


Three key things to pay special attention from the template used are, 
obvious banner at the top of the page, user names removed and Apache 
license disclaimer at the very bottom of each page.


http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html

Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)

Cheers!
Hernan






Geronimo documentation - upcoming look & feel

2006-05-11 Thread Hernan Cunico

Hi All,
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how the Geronimo's confluence wiki 
may look like once
cwiki.apache.org jumps in production.

Available at the following link is just a single page, static draft based on what is in the oven for 
Geronimo v1.1 documentation. The new confluence wiki will be running a plugin that automatically 
exports the new content into HTML format so it can be served as static content increasing the 
performance.


Not only that, the HTML exports can be configured using templates so we can select the information 
we want to display, for example removing the classic "Added by / last edited by" if it turns to be 
an issue.


Three key things to pay special attention from the template used are, obvious banner at the top of 
the page, user names removed and Apache license disclaimer at the very bottom of each page.


http://people.apache.org/~hcunico/cwiki/documentation.html

Comments, questions, suggestions are welcomed :)

Cheers!
Hernan