Re: SUM: Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
I was wondering if we could simply shut down the codehaus project and import back the remaining bits at Apache. As these parts depend on jboss (LGPL) or some proprietary libraries (XSQL), i was thinking that we could just import the code in a new area of servicemix (other than trunk) and not release it. Simply importing the code should be ok with legal, as soon as we do not release it afaik. Thoughts ? On 9/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello from Sweden! I followed this discussion but did not yet get: What shall be hosted at the codehouse project site? Just some few components? Or shall it be a growing, open collection of components? Or something completely different? IMHO a wiki page is perfect for this task: Easy to collaborate & keep the overview. Listing & commenting proposals. Listing requirements. Reusable for later naming needs. > We could always go for ServiceReMix May IMHO confuse "outsiders": Is this a fork of the ServiceMix project? Or some kind of other re-use of SM? > Well, here are a few that spring to mind to get the creative process > rolling: > InTheMix IMHO great for components etc, as they will be used inside Servicemix > MixCentral > MixDepot IMHO great when a bigger bunch of related packages/projects/examples/... shall be hosted/linked. > MixBase > MixCore May be misunderstood as servicemix-core or other internals > BeyondServiceMix nice for things that complement ServiceMix To summarize the requirements: The name shall be * pronouncable (like distinction between acronym and abbreviation, e.g. VoIP and URL are speakable, whereas CSS and SVN are not) * showing clear separation from main project * somehow tying to the main project * search engine friendly (no command characters like " - + etc.) * easy to find (not too many other results, even with common spelling errors [e.g. space inbetween single words of a compound one]) * usable in professional contexts, so no similarity (written/spelled/spoken) with swearwords and the like (maybe even in other common languages than just English, so Spanish, Chinese, Arabian, Russian, French, German etc.) Did I miss something? Just add... Have a sunny saturday, Georg -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Changing-the-name-of-the-ServiceMix-project-at-the-Codehaus-tf2203136.html#a6339623 Sent from the ServiceMix - Dev forum at Nabble.com. -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet
Re: SUM: Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
Hej Bruce, bsnyder wrote: > >> Could you please sketch the scope/content of the future codehaus project >> space in a few sentences? > There is no predefined scope. The project at the Codehaus is only used > to house addtions Apache ServiceMix that are not compatible with the > Apache License. Just as with Apache ServiceMix, anyone can contribute. > then IMHO "BeyondServiceMix" (4 results, with space 9k) and "MixDepot" (50k results) are best as they fulfill the posted requirements AND describe that anything related to ServiceMix may be placed in the codehaus project. For the first one: Is this already an "illegal" use of the name ServiceMix? my 2 cents Georg -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Changing-the-name-of-the-ServiceMix-project-at-the-Codehaus-tf2203136.html#a6391846 Sent from the ServiceMix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: SUM: Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
On 9/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
bsnyder wrote:
>
>> I followed this discussion but did not yet get: What shall be hosted at
>> the
>> codehouse project site? Just some few components? Or shall it be a
>> growing,
>> open collection of components? Or something completely different?
>
> Georg, the reason for part of the project to remain at the Codehaus is
> to house any extensions or components for ServiceMix using a license
> that is not compatible with the Apache License.
> ...
> Regarding the name, the Apache Software Foundation now owns the name
> ServiceMix, so we're not able to use this name outside of that context.
>
Bruce, thank you for explaining in more detail the reasons why 2 projects
are needed :)
Could you please sketch the scope/content of the future codehaus project
space in a few sentences?
There is no predefined scope. The project at the Codehaus is only used
to house addtions Apache ServiceMix that are not compatible with the
Apache License. Just as with Apache ServiceMix, anyone can contribute.
Bruce
--
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL
PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61Ehttp://geronimo.apache.org/
Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
Castor - http://castor.org/
Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
Mixin Smojo -dain On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Peter Smith wrote: ServiceMex Bruce Snyder wrote: MiXTensions ;-) Bruce This is an email from Fujitsu Australia Software Technology Pty Ltd, ABN 27 003 693 481. It is confidential to the ordinary user of the email address to which it was addressed and may contain copyright and/or legally privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy or forward all or any of it or its attachments. If you receive this email in error, please return to sender. Thank you. If you do not wish to receive commercial email messages from Fujitsu Australia Software Technology Pty Ltd, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
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Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
On 9/12/06, Terry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh i don't care about my suggestion really, just trying to get us to
> think outside the box.
Well, here are a few that spring to mind to get the creative process
rolling:
InTheMix
MixCentral
MixDepot
MixCore
BeyondServiceMix
MixBase
MiXTensions ;-)
Bruce
--
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL
PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61Ehttp://geronimo.apache.org/
Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
Castor - http://castor.org/
Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
We could always go for ServiceReMix P On 9/12/06, Terry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh i don't care about my suggestion really, just trying to get us to > think outside the box. Well, here are a few that spring to mind to get the creative process rolling: InTheMix MixCentral MixDepot MixCore BeyondServiceMix MixBase Terry
Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
Oh i don't care about my suggestion really, just trying to get us to think outside the box. Well, here are a few that spring to mind to get the creative process rolling: InTheMix MixCentral MixDepot MixCore BeyondServiceMix MixBase Terry
Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
On 9/11/06, Guillaume Nodet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree on the "professional" side, tough I' m not a native
english speaker and I think I may miss lots of subtilities
when choosing a name (unless one point them explicitely).
On a side note, Mojo = M(aven) (P)ojo, so there is still
a link to maven ...
Yes, I'm aware of the reason for the name, my point was that most
people don't know that.
I think Riviera is a nice name, but very google unfriendly:
more than 49.000.000 hits :(
Oh i don't care about my suggestion really, just trying to get us to
think outside the box.
Bruce
--
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL
PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61Ehttp://geronimo.apache.org/
Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
Castor - http://castor.org/
Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
Take it from me, most big corporate clients spend much more effort worrying about whether they like the name of the project than on evaluating the quality of the technology it contains. If they can't pronounce it or spell it, they won't use it. :) Terry
Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
If that is a problem, maybe we can just use Mixins or Smixins.
-dain
On Sep 6, 2006, at 12:15 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
That's nice !
IANAL, but can we use "ServiceMix" name in another project, as it
has been
given to ASF ?
On 9/6/06, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ServiceMixins
-dain
On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:13 AM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
> ServiceMix was moved from the Codehaus to the ASF late in 2005.
This
> involved leaving behind some modules that are not compatible
with the
> Apache License so we decided to just leave the project that housed
> ServiceMix at the Codehaus in place to continue to house these
> modules. However, it has become rather confusing for people to
> understand the distinction between these two project spaces (one at
> the ASF and one at the Codehaus) and it's high time that we
decided to
> change the name of the ServiceMix project that remains at the
> Codehaus. Therefore, I propose that we select a new name for this
> project. If others are interested let's begin to discuss names.
>
> Bruce
> --
> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-
N>61E
> G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> );'
>
> Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> Castor - http://castor.org/
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
That's nice !
IANAL, but can we use "ServiceMix" name in another project, as it has been
given to ASF ?
On 9/6/06, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ServiceMixins
-dain
On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:13 AM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
> ServiceMix was moved from the Codehaus to the ASF late in 2005. This
> involved leaving behind some modules that are not compatible with the
> Apache License so we decided to just leave the project that housed
> ServiceMix at the Codehaus in place to continue to house these
> modules. However, it has become rather confusing for people to
> understand the distinction between these two project spaces (one at
> the ASF and one at the Codehaus) and it's high time that we decided to
> change the name of the ServiceMix project that remains at the
> Codehaus. Therefore, I propose that we select a new name for this
> project. If others are interested let's begin to discuss names.
>
> Bruce
> --
> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> );'
>
> Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> Castor - http://castor.org/
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
+1
Regards,
Alan
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
ServiceMixins
-dain
On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:13 AM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
ServiceMix was moved from the Codehaus to the ASF late in 2005. This
involved leaving behind some modules that are not compatible with the
Apache License so we decided to just leave the project that housed
ServiceMix at the Codehaus in place to continue to house these
modules. However, it has become rather confusing for people to
understand the distinction between these two project spaces (one at
the ASF and one at the Codehaus) and it's high time that we decided to
change the name of the ServiceMix project that remains at the
Codehaus. Therefore, I propose that we select a new name for this
project. If others are interested let's begin to discuss names.
Bruce
-- perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E
);'
Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
Castor - http://castor.org/
Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus
ServiceMixins
-dain
On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:13 AM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
ServiceMix was moved from the Codehaus to the ASF late in 2005. This
involved leaving behind some modules that are not compatible with the
Apache License so we decided to just leave the project that housed
ServiceMix at the Codehaus in place to continue to house these
modules. However, it has become rather confusing for people to
understand the distinction between these two project spaces (one at
the ASF and one at the Codehaus) and it's high time that we decided to
change the name of the ServiceMix project that remains at the
Codehaus. Therefore, I propose that we select a new name for this
project. If others are interested let's begin to discuss names.
Bruce
--
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61EG;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
);'
Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
Castor - http://castor.org/
