Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
thanks Dain,-rajithOn 6/29/06, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The link to the paper people are talking about out is here:http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html-dainOn Jun 29, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Bill Dudney wrote: > Hi Greg,>> Hopefully this is early enough for someone to look at.>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDEV/Caching >> It need lots more detail - I have some graphics too but don't have> time to write them up before meeting so I'll try to get that done> this afternoon and update the wiki page.> > I'll be a bit late but I'll be there.>> Looking forward to it.>> TTFN,>> -bd->> On Jun 29, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Greg Wilkins wrote:> Jeff, this suggestion is probably too late but given the deficiencies of dialin, would it be possible for you>> to post a short>> summary of where your work with clustering is at? Is there a page on the(a?) wiki about the approach you are taking?>> I can see the tomcat clustering page http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC11/clustering.html and the overview page>> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html but nothing on kluster or the session API cheers>> Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Guys, Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you were hoping for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, perhaps via skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up - Has anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? Would you like us to try?>> Well, thats ok...thanks for giving a shot. >> I would ask that we bring as much to the lists afterwards as>>> there are>>> others who have/are doing considerable work in the clustering>>> area and >>> are not able to be there. It would be nice to be engaged in>>> discussions. Thanks again for trying.>>> Jules > Jules Gosnell wrote:>>> Matt Hogstrom wrote:> I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin >>> time.>>> 2200 is good from my perspective. That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would >> be that>> people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and>> gone home>> by then.>> >> I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... How does that sound ? >> Jules> Dain Sundstrom wrote:>>> Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote:> Jeff Genender wrote:> >> Jules Gosnell wrote:> Dain Sundstrom wrote:>>> Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? > I'll look into it.>> Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time.>> > OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve> (dublin time)> which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can > avoid them.>> Jules Jules >> -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >>> Jules Gosnell wrote:>> >>> Matt - I don't think that the problem was with>>> sponsorship,>>> but rather >>> exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?).>>> Covalent>>> are simply >>> providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to>>> the entire>>> community and you will be driving the meeting. > That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here>>> in the >>> public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few>>> notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who >>> didn't see this.>> Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The>>> sponsorship >>> was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is>>> rendered>>> nonexistent. >> Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper>>> notices) the>>> details, such as
Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
The link to the paper people are talking about out is here: http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html -dain On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Bill Dudney wrote: Hi Greg, Hopefully this is early enough for someone to look at. http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDEV/Caching It need lots more detail - I have some graphics too but don't have time to write them up before meeting so I'll try to get that done this afternoon and update the wiki page. I'll be a bit late but I'll be there. Looking forward to it. TTFN, -bd- On Jun 29, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Greg Wilkins wrote: Jeff, this suggestion is probably too late but given the deficiencies of dialin, would it be possible for you to post a short summary of where your work with clustering is at? Is there a page on the(a?) wiki about the approach you are taking? I can see the tomcat clustering page http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC11/clustering.html and the overview page http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html but nothing on kluster or the session API cheers Jeff Genender wrote:> Jules Gosnell wrote: Guys, Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you were hoping for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, perhaps via skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up - Has anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? Would you like us to try? Well, thats ok...thanks for giving a shot. I would ask that we bring as much to the lists afterwards as there are others who have/are doing considerable work in the clustering area and are not able to be there. It would be nice to be engaged in discussions. Thanks again for trying. Jules Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. 2200 is good from my perspective. That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home by then. I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... How does that sound ? Jules Dain Sundstrom wrote: Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
Hi Greg, Hopefully this is early enough for someone to look at. http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDEV/Caching It need lots more detail - I have some graphics too but don't have time to write them up before meeting so I'll try to get that done this afternoon and update the wiki page. I'll be a bit late but I'll be there. Looking forward to it. TTFN, -bd- On Jun 29, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Greg Wilkins wrote: Jeff, this suggestion is probably too late but given the deficiencies of dialin, would it be possible for you to post a short summary of where your work with clustering is at? Is there a page on the(a?) wiki about the approach you are taking? I can see the tomcat clustering page http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC11/clustering.html and the overview page http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html but nothing on kluster or the session API cheers Jeff Genender wrote:> Jules Gosnell wrote: Guys, Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you were hoping for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, perhaps via skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up - Has anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? Would you like us to try? Well, thats ok...thanks for giving a shot. I would ask that we bring as much to the lists afterwards as there are others who have/are doing considerable work in the clustering area and are not able to be there. It would be nice to be engaged in discussions. Thanks again for trying. Jules Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. 2200 is good from my perspective. That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home by then. I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... How does that sound ? Jules Dain Sundstrom wrote: Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating- system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
Actually...let me rephrase that...Bill Dudney and I will put it together... ;-) Jeff Jeff Genender wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Thanks for the ping. Let me see what I can get together... > > Jeff > > > > Greg Wilkins wrote: >> Jeff, >> >> this suggestion is probably too late >> >> but given the deficiencies of dialin, would it be possible for you to post a >> short >> summary of where your work with clustering is at? >> >> Is there a page on the(a?) wiki about the approach you are taking? >> I can see the tomcat clustering page >> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC11/clustering.html >> >> and the overview page >> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html >> >> but nothing on kluster or the session API >> >> cheers >> >> >> >> >> Jeff Genender wrote:> >>> Jules Gosnell wrote: Guys, Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you were hoping for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, perhaps via skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up - Has anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? Would you like us to try? >>> Well, thats ok...thanks for giving a shot. >>> >>> I would ask that we bring as much to the lists afterwards as there are >>> others who have/are doing considerable work in the clustering area and >>> are not able to be there. It would be nice to be engaged in >>> discussions. Thanks again for trying. >>> Jules > Jules Gosnell wrote: > >> Matt Hogstrom wrote: >> >>> I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. >>> 2200 is good from my perspective. >> That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that >> people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home >> by then. >> >> I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... >> >> How does that sound ? >> >> >> Jules >> >>> Dain Sundstrom wrote: >>> Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: > Jeff Genender wrote: > >> Jules Gosnell wrote: >> >>> Dain Sundstrom wrote: >>> Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? >>> I'll look into it. >>> >>> Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? >> I would likely be interested too depending on time. > OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) > which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. > > Jules > >>> Jules >>> >>> -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >>> Jules Gosnell wrote: >>> >>> >>> Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, >>> but rather >>> exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent >>> are simply >>> providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire >>> community and you will be driving the meeting. >>> That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the >>> public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few >>> notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who >>> didn't see this. >>> >>> Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship >>> was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is >>> rendered >>> nonexistent. >>> >>> Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the >>> details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. >>> >>> Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be >>> clarified a bit. >>> -- >>> #kenP-)} >>> >>> Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ >>> Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ >>> >>> "Millennium hand and shrimp!" >>> > --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of > string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system > crystallises out aroun
Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
Hi Greg, Thanks for the ping. Let me see what I can get together... Jeff Greg Wilkins wrote: > Jeff, > > this suggestion is probably too late > > but given the deficiencies of dialin, would it be possible for you to post a > short > summary of where your work with clustering is at? > > Is there a page on the(a?) wiki about the approach you are taking? > I can see the tomcat clustering page > > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC11/clustering.html > > and the overview page > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html > > but nothing on kluster or the session API > > cheers > > > > > Jeff Genender wrote:> >> Jules Gosnell wrote: >>> Guys, >>> >>> Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. >>> >>> I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you were hoping >>> for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. >>> >>> One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing >>> facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, perhaps via >>> skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up - Has >>> anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? Would >>> you like us to try? >>> >> Well, thats ok...thanks for giving a shot. >> >> I would ask that we bring as much to the lists afterwards as there are >> others who have/are doing considerable work in the clustering area and >> are not able to be there. It would be nice to be engaged in >> discussions. Thanks again for trying. >> >>> Jules >>> >>> >>> Jules Gosnell wrote: > Matt Hogstrom wrote: > >> I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. >> 2200 is good from my perspective. > That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that > people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home > by then. > > I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... > > How does that sound ? > > > Jules > >> Dain Sundstrom wrote: >> >>> Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 >>> hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm >>> your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour >>> earlier, but then I will be sleepy. >>> >>> -dain >>> >>> On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: >>> Jeff Genender wrote: > Jules Gosnell wrote: > >> Dain Sundstrom wrote: >> >>> Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the >>> conference can participate? >> >> I'll look into it. >> >> Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? > I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules >> Jules >> >> >>> -dain >>> >>> On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >>> >> Jules Gosnell wrote: >> >> >> Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, >> but rather >> exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent >> are simply >> providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire >> community and you will be driving the meeting. >> >> That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the >> public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few >> notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who >> didn't see this. >> >> Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship >> was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is >> rendered >> nonexistent. >> >> Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the >> details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. >> >> Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be >> clarified a bit. >> -- >> #kenP-)} >> >> Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ >> Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ >> >> "Millennium hand and shrimp!" >> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * >>
Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
Jeff, this suggestion is probably too late but given the deficiencies of dialin, would it be possible for you to post a short summary of where your work with clustering is at? Is there a page on the(a?) wiki about the approach you are taking? I can see the tomcat clustering page http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC11/clustering.html and the overview page http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html but nothing on kluster or the session API cheers Jeff Genender wrote:> > Jules Gosnell wrote: >> Guys, >> >> Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. >> >> I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you were hoping >> for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. >> >> One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing >> facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, perhaps via >> skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up - Has >> anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? Would >> you like us to try? >> > > Well, thats ok...thanks for giving a shot. > > I would ask that we bring as much to the lists afterwards as there are > others who have/are doing considerable work in the clustering area and > are not able to be there. It would be nice to be engaged in > discussions. Thanks again for trying. > >> Jules >> >> >> >>> Jules Gosnell wrote: >>> Matt Hogstrom wrote: > I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. > 2200 is good from my perspective. That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home by then. I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... How does that sound ? Jules > Dain Sundstrom wrote: > >> Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 >> hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm >> your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour >> earlier, but then I will be sleepy. >> >> -dain >> >> On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: >> >>> Jeff Genender wrote: >>> Jules Gosnell wrote: > Dain Sundstrom wrote: > >> Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the >> conference can participate? > > > I'll look into it. > > Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. >>> >>> >>> OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) >>> which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. >>> >>> Jules >>> > Jules > > >> -dain >> >> On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >> > Jules Gosnell wrote: > > > Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, > but rather > exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent > are simply > providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire > community and you will be driving the meeting. > > > That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the > public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few > notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who > didn't see this. > > Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship > was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is > rendered > nonexistent. > > Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the > details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. > > Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be > clarified a bit. > -- > #kenP-)} > > Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ > Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ > > "Millennium hand and shrimp!" > >>> >>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of >>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system >>> crystallises out around it." >>> >>> /** >>> * Jules Gosnell >>> * Partner >>> * Core Developers Network (Europe) >>> * >>> *www.coredevelopers.net >>> * >>> * Open Source Training & Support. >>> **/ >> >> >> >> >> >
Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
Bill Dudney wrote: Hi Jules, Too bad about the line, thanks for trying. Not sure how well this would work but maybe someone could hop on IRC and take notes and field questions? I'll look into this suggestion and definitely post a summary of what went down. Jules Just a thought. Looking forward to the summary on the list afterwards. TTFN, Bill Dudney MyFaces - http://myfaces.apache.org Cayenne - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cayenne.html On Jun 28, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: John Sisson wrote: I'd also be interested in calling in, preferably closer to 9:00pm if possible. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html? day=29&month=6&year=2006&p1=78&p2=240&p3=137&p4=179 John Guys, Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you were hoping for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, perhaps via skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up - Has anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? Would you like us to try? Jules Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. 2200 is good from my perspective. That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home by then. I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... How does that sound ? Jules Dain Sundstrom wrote: Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating- system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * * www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
Hi Jules, Too bad about the line, thanks for trying. Not sure how well this would work but maybe someone could hop on IRC and take notes and field questions? Just a thought. Looking forward to the summary on the list afterwards. TTFN, Bill Dudney MyFaces - http://myfaces.apache.org Cayenne - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cayenne.html On Jun 28, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote: John Sisson wrote: I'd also be interested in calling in, preferably closer to 9:00pm if possible. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html? day=29&month=6&year=2006&p1=78&p2=240&p3=137&p4=179 John Guys, Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you were hoping for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, perhaps via skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up - Has anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? Would you like us to try? Jules Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. 2200 is good from my perspective. That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home by then. I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... How does that sound ? Jules Dain Sundstrom wrote: Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating- system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Jules Gosnell wrote: > Guys, > > Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. > > I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you were hoping > for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. > > One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing > facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, perhaps via > skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up - Has > anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? Would > you like us to try? > Well, thats ok...thanks for giving a shot. I would ask that we bring as much to the lists afterwards as there are others who have/are doing considerable work in the clustering area and are not able to be there. It would be nice to be engaged in discussions. Thanks again for trying. > > Jules > > > >> Jules Gosnell wrote: >> >>> Matt Hogstrom wrote: >>> I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. 2200 is good from my perspective. >>> >>> >>> That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that >>> people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home >>> by then. >>> >>> I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... >>> >>> How does that sound ? >>> >>> >>> Jules >>> Dain Sundstrom wrote: > Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 > hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm > your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour > earlier, but then I will be sleepy. > > -dain > > On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: > >> Jeff Genender wrote: >> >>> Jules Gosnell wrote: >>> Dain Sundstrom wrote: > Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the > conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? >>> >>> >>> I would likely be interested too depending on time. >> >> >> >> OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) >> which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. >> >> Jules >> Jules > -dain > > On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. >>> That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" > >> >> >> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of >> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system >> crystallises out around it." >> >> /** >> * Jules Gosnell >> * Partner >> * Core Developers Network (Europe) >> * >> *www.coredevelopers.net >> * >> * Open Source Training & Support. >> **/ > > > > > > >>> >>> >>
Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
John Sisson wrote: I'd also be interested in calling in, preferably closer to 9:00pm if possible. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=29&month=6&year=2006&p1=78&p2=240&p3=137&p4=179 John Guys, Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you were hoping for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, perhaps via skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up - Has anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? Would you like us to try? Jules Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. 2200 is good from my perspective. That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home by then. I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... How does that sound ? Jules Dain Sundstrom wrote: Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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I'd also be interested in calling in, preferably closer to 9:00pm if possible. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=29&month=6&year=2006&p1=78&p2=240&p3=137&p4=179 John Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. 2200 is good from my perspective. That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home by then. I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... How does that sound ? Jules Dain Sundstrom wrote: Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
Matt Hogstrom wrote: I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. 2200 is good from my perspective. That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would be that people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and gone home by then. I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... How does that sound ? Jules Dain Sundstrom wrote: Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/ -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve..
I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin time. 2200 is good from my perspective. Dain Sundstrom wrote: Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Bill Dudney wrote: Hi Jules, I'd be interested too. Hi, Bill - good to hear from you. OK - there's definitely a pattern emerging here :-) and a clear need for some way of remotely accessing the meeting... Let me see what I can do. Jules 4pm your time or later would work fine. TTFN, Bill Dudney MyFaces - http://myfaces.apache.org Cayenne - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cayenne.html On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? Me depending when the meeting is. -dain Good - this is why I haven't set a definite time yet. So, what times can you not manage on thurs aft/eve ? or is this just a generally bad time for you ? Jules -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/ -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Hi Jules, I'd be interested too. 4pm your time or later would work fine. TTFN, Bill Dudney MyFaces - http://myfaces.apache.org Cayenne - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cayenne.html On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? Me depending when the meeting is. -dain Good - this is why I haven't set a definite time yet. So, what times can you not manage on thurs aft/eve ? or is this just a generally bad time for you ? Jules -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there is an 8 hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything after 6pm your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe an hour earlier, but then I will be sleepy. -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Jeff Genender wrote: I think I am fairly open...preferably later in the evening Dublin since I am in Colorado. But I am not fussy, because its highly likely my new baby will be fussy and thus I will be available at any time ;-) OK - I'll see what I can do. Congratulations on the new baby, BTW. Jules Jeff Jules Gosnell wrote: Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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I think I am fairly open...preferably later in the evening Dublin since I am in Colorado. But I am not fussy, because its highly likely my new baby will be fussy and thus I will be available at any time ;-) Jeff Jules Gosnell wrote: > Jeff Genender wrote: >> >> Jules Gosnell wrote: >> >>> Dain Sundstrom wrote: >>> Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? >>> >>> I'll look into it. >>> >>> Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? >> >> >> I would likely be interested too depending on time. > > OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which > would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. > > Jules > >> >> >>> Jules >>> >>> -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >>> >>> Jules Gosnell wrote: >>> >>> >>> Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but >>> rather >>> exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are >>> simply >>> providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire >>> community and you will be driving the meeting. >>> >>> >>> That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the >>> public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few >>> notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who >>> didn't see this. >>> >>> Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship >>> was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered >>> nonexistent. >>> >>> Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the >>> details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. >>> >>> Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be >>> clarified a bit. >>> -- >>> #kenP-)} >>> >>> Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ >>> Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ >>> >>> "Millennium hand and shrimp!" >>> >> > >
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Jeff Genender wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve (dublin time) which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can avoid them. Jules Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Jules Gosnell wrote: > Dain Sundstrom wrote: >> Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the >> conference can participate? > > I'll look into it. > > Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? I would likely be interested too depending on time. > > Jules > >> >> -dain >> >> On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >> > Jules Gosnell wrote: > > > Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather > exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are > simply > providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire > community and you will be driving the meeting. > > > That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the > public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few > notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who > didn't see this. > > Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship > was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered > nonexistent. > > Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the > details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. > > Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be > clarified a bit. > -- > #kenP-)} > > Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ > Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ > > "Millennium hand and shrimp!" >> >>
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Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? Me depending when the meeting is. -dain Good - this is why I haven't set a definite time yet. So, what times can you not manage on thurs aft/eve ? or is this just a generally bad time for you ? Jules -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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On Jun 27, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? Me depending when the meeting is. -dain
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oops - just found this one in my wadi-dev folder... Matt Hogstrom wrote: Jules, Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: Jules its great you'll make it over here. I haven't really followed clustering since it was withdrawn from the Incubator so my apologies for not being current. It would be excellent to see what Wadi is doing. not just WADI - but a wholistic approach to all Geronimo's clustering issues However, Given the recent issue with the meeting in JavaOne I'm not sure I'm following the Covalent sponsorship since we'll be having the disucssion at an ApacheCon. Forgive me but I'm a little sensitive to the Corporate Sponsorship and Committers getting together ;-0 Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). You are correct. My bad...sponsor away. no problem - it is far better to err on the side of caution... Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. However, if you are still uncomfortable with arrangements, I shall ask Covalent to back out and I'll find an alternate route. The important thing is that we don't waste this opportunity to get together interested parties and discuss relevant issues, broadband... ? Nope, talked to Covalent and I'm fine. Cheers. So, should we ask Covalent to bow out ? Anyway, I am in Dublin and am available. I think my only time constraints are Friday afternoon and a Wednesday night session I'm moderating at 1700. excellent - I'll come back to the list as soon as I have a venue. thanks, Matt, I look forward to seeing you there. Jules Jules Cheers Matt Jules Gosnell wrote: It looks like I am going to make it to Dublin afterall. I think this will be a good chance for anyone interested in Geronimo clustering to get together and talk about scope, architecture, resourcing, roadmap etc - in short, anything that we need to get the beast rolled out. Here is a link to a clustering architecture overview that I put together some time ago - it's a little out of date. It doesn't mention Lingo, which should be very useful for cluster management, the proposed Session API or recent developments with geronimo-cache etc... but it is a good starting point to demostrate the direction that I am coming from. http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/Clustering Covalent have kindly offered to host the meeting - its just up to us to provide some content and some people :-) Everyone with an interest in clustering is welcome. It will be very informal, structure depending largely on who turns up. If you would like to come, we need to know ASAP so that we can find a window that will fit with the majority of your time constraints, so, please join the thread and let us know. We are thinking of some time thursday afternoon or evening. If you cannot make a slot during this window, please mention it. looking forward to seeing you all there, Jules -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. forgot to say: yes - the notices are a good idea - I'll sort that out... and... Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. of course - as soon as the venue is finalised. Jules Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRKFvZJrNPMCpn3XdAQJf3gQArxGLhBMiYdLVHw38floe4a3ZBSB3J4cw zGJS2u0BHth/FxcZhgnZ5lxWqvofa8smxnZLXXAdHSBV49UHwMH7HajuTzIga91+ AoIhoWm7f1Kv88Kh7L5Y4QZkavCz7oz/M3cxnPOqyDzneC+09MaG9PTb9GsygiDF CS38Ciwtkh8= =9Fro -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Good - thanks, Ken, for the clarification. Matt, unless I hear back from you to the contrary, I'll assume that your concerns have been laid to rest and proceed as originally planned. Jules Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRKFvZJrNPMCpn3XdAQJf3gQArxGLhBMiYdLVHw38floe4a3ZBSB3J4cw zGJS2u0BHth/FxcZhgnZ5lxWqvofa8smxnZLXXAdHSBV49UHwMH7HajuTzIga91+ AoIhoWm7f1Kv88Kh7L5Y4QZkavCz7oz/M3cxnPOqyDzneC+09MaG9PTb9GsygiDF CS38Ciwtkh8= =9Fro -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Dain Sundstrom wrote: Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? I'll look into it. Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? Jules -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRKFvZJrNPMCpn3XdAQJf3gQArxGLhBMiYdLVHw38floe4a3ZBSB3J4cw zGJS2u0BHth/FxcZhgnZ5lxWqvofa8smxnZLXXAdHSBV49UHwMH7HajuTzIga91+ AoIhoWm7f1Kv88Kh7L5Y4QZkavCz7oz/M3cxnPOqyDzneC+09MaG9PTb9GsygiDF CS38Ciwtkh8= =9Fro -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Jules, Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: Jules its great you'll make it over here. I haven't really followed clustering since it was withdrawn from the Incubator so my apologies for not being current. It would be excellent to see what Wadi is doing. not just WADI - but a wholistic approach to all Geronimo's clustering issues However, Given the recent issue with the meeting in JavaOne I'm not sure I'm following the Covalent sponsorship since we'll be having the disucssion at an ApacheCon. Forgive me but I'm a little sensitive to the Corporate Sponsorship and Committers getting together ;-0 Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). You are correct. My bad...sponsor away. Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. However, if you are still uncomfortable with arrangements, I shall ask Covalent to back out and I'll find an alternate route. The important thing is that we don't waste this opportunity to get together interested parties and discuss relevant issues, broadband... ? Nope, talked to Covalent and I'm fine. Cheers. So, should we ask Covalent to bow out ? Anyway, I am in Dublin and am available. I think my only time constraints are Friday afternoon and a Wednesday night session I'm moderating at 1700. excellent - I'll come back to the list as soon as I have a venue. Jules Cheers Matt Jules Gosnell wrote: It looks like I am going to make it to Dublin afterall. I think this will be a good chance for anyone interested in Geronimo clustering to get together and talk about scope, architecture, resourcing, roadmap etc - in short, anything that we need to get the beast rolled out. Here is a link to a clustering architecture overview that I put together some time ago - it's a little out of date. It doesn't mention Lingo, which should be very useful for cluster management, the proposed Session API or recent developments with geronimo-cache etc... but it is a good starting point to demostrate the direction that I am coming from. http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/Clustering Covalent have kindly offered to host the meeting - its just up to us to provide some content and some people :-) Everyone with an interest in clustering is welcome. It will be very informal, structure depending largely on who turns up. If you would like to come, we need to know ASAP so that we can find a window that will fit with the majority of your time constraints, so, please join the thread and let us know. We are thinking of some time thursday afternoon or evening. If you cannot make a slot during this window, please mention it. looking forward to seeing you all there, Jules
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Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at the conference can participate? -dain On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jules Gosnell wrote: Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRKFvZJrNPMCpn3XdAQJf3gQArxGLhBMiYdLVHw38floe4a3ZBSB3J4cw zGJS2u0BHth/FxcZhgnZ5lxWqvofa8smxnZLXXAdHSBV49UHwMH7HajuTzIga91+ AoIhoWm7f1Kv88Kh7L5Y4QZkavCz7oz/M3cxnPOqyDzneC+09MaG9PTb9GsygiDF CS38Ciwtkh8= =9Fro -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jules Gosnell wrote: > > Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather > exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply > providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire > community and you will be driving the meeting. That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here in the public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who didn't see this. Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The sponsorship was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is rendered nonexistent. Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper notices) the details, such as time and place, as soon as they're figured out. Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it can be clarified a bit. - -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRKFvZJrNPMCpn3XdAQJf3gQArxGLhBMiYdLVHw38floe4a3ZBSB3J4cw zGJS2u0BHth/FxcZhgnZ5lxWqvofa8smxnZLXXAdHSBV49UHwMH7HajuTzIga91+ AoIhoWm7f1Kv88Kh7L5Y4QZkavCz7oz/M3cxnPOqyDzneC+09MaG9PTb9GsygiDF CS38Ciwtkh8= =9Fro -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Matt Hogstrom wrote: Jules its great you'll make it over here. I haven't really followed clustering since it was withdrawn from the Incubator so my apologies for not being current. It would be excellent to see what Wadi is doing. not just WADI - but a wholistic approach to all Geronimo's clustering issues However, Given the recent issue with the meeting in JavaOne I'm not sure I'm following the Covalent sponsorship since we'll be having the disucssion at an ApacheCon. Forgive me but I'm a little sensitive to the Corporate Sponsorship and Committers getting together ;-0 Matt - I don't think that the problem was with sponsorship, but rather exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). Covalent are simply providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to the entire community and you will be driving the meeting. However, if you are still uncomfortable with arrangements, I shall ask Covalent to back out and I'll find an alternate route. The important thing is that we don't waste this opportunity to get together interested parties and discuss relevant issues, broadband... ? So, should we ask Covalent to bow out ? Anyway, I am in Dublin and am available. I think my only time constraints are Friday afternoon and a Wednesday night session I'm moderating at 1700. excellent - I'll come back to the list as soon as I have a venue. Jules Cheers Matt Jules Gosnell wrote: It looks like I am going to make it to Dublin afterall. I think this will be a good chance for anyone interested in Geronimo clustering to get together and talk about scope, architecture, resourcing, roadmap etc - in short, anything that we need to get the beast rolled out. Here is a link to a clustering architecture overview that I put together some time ago - it's a little out of date. It doesn't mention Lingo, which should be very useful for cluster management, the proposed Session API or recent developments with geronimo-cache etc... but it is a good starting point to demostrate the direction that I am coming from. http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/Clustering Covalent have kindly offered to host the meeting - its just up to us to provide some content and some people :-) Everyone with an interest in clustering is welcome. It will be very informal, structure depending largely on who turns up. If you would like to come, we need to know ASAP so that we can find a window that will fit with the majority of your time constraints, so, please join the thread and let us know. We are thinking of some time thursday afternoon or evening. If you cannot make a slot during this window, please mention it. looking forward to seeing you all there, Jules -- "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system crystallises out around it." /** * Jules Gosnell * Partner * Core Developers Network (Europe) * *www.coredevelopers.net * * Open Source Training & Support. **/
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Jules its great you'll make it over here. I haven't really followed clustering since it was withdrawn from the Incubator so my apologies for not being current. It would be excellent to see what Wadi is doing. However, Given the recent issue with the meeting in JavaOne I'm not sure I'm following the Covalent sponsorship since we'll be having the disucssion at an ApacheCon. Forgive me but I'm a little sensitive to the Corporate Sponsorship and Committers getting together ;-0 Anyway, I am in Dublin and am available. I think my only time constraints are Friday afternoon and a Wednesday night session I'm moderating at 1700. Cheers Matt Jules Gosnell wrote: It looks like I am going to make it to Dublin afterall. I think this will be a good chance for anyone interested in Geronimo clustering to get together and talk about scope, architecture, resourcing, roadmap etc - in short, anything that we need to get the beast rolled out. Here is a link to a clustering architecture overview that I put together some time ago - it's a little out of date. It doesn't mention Lingo, which should be very useful for cluster management, the proposed Session API or recent developments with geronimo-cache etc... but it is a good starting point to demostrate the direction that I am coming from. http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/GERONIMO/Clustering Covalent have kindly offered to host the meeting - its just up to us to provide some content and some people :-) Everyone with an interest in clustering is welcome. It will be very informal, structure depending largely on who turns up. If you would like to come, we need to know ASAP so that we can find a window that will fit with the majority of your time constraints, so, please join the thread and let us know. We are thinking of some time thursday afternoon or evening. If you cannot make a slot during this window, please mention it. looking forward to seeing you all there, Jules
