Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-12-15 Thread Matt Hogstrom

Thanks Hernan.

On Dec 15, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Hernan Cunico wrote:


Hi All,
I finally updated the web site based on the suggestions discussed  
in this thread.
These changes should get replicated on the live site within the  
next hour.


Cheers!
Hernan

Hernan Cunico wrote:

Hi All,
this thread has been dormant for the last month or so. If somebody  
thinks we should not update the home page with this content pls  
speak up otherwise I will push the update.
I think this new content looks great (it has all your comments  
already in) and we should have it out there the sooner the better.

Here is the text
===
Welcome to Apache Geronimo
The goal of the Geronimo project is to produce a server runtime  
framework that pulls together the best Open Source alternatives to  
create runtimes that meet the needs of developers and system  
administrators. Our most popular distribution is a fully certified  
J2EE 1.4 application server runtime.  We are working on our next  
version of the server which is based on Java EE 5.

Some of our guiding principles are:
- Easy to use.
- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software  
License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers,  
administrators and system integrators.

- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can  
experience the newest features and have access to the latest bug  
fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines  
required to create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.

===
Cheers!
Hernan
Hernan Cunico wrote:

Matt Hogstrom wrote:


*** New swill ***

Welcome to the Apache Geronimo Project!

Our goal is to produce a server runtime framework that pulls  
together the best Open Source alternatives to create runtimes  
that meet the needs of developers and system administrators.   
Our most prominent runtime is a fully compliant J2EE container  
based on J2EE 1.4.  We are working on our next version of the  
server which is based on JEE 1.5.  Some of our guiding  
principles are:


- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software  
License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers,  
administrators and system integrators.
- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like  
Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can  
experience the newest features and have access to the latest bug  
fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines  
required to create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.




Hey Matt,
It looks a whole lot better from what we have today. Here is my  
little rephrasing (including the comments from Jeff and Joe)


===

Welcome to Apache Geronimo

The goal of the Geronimo project is to produce a server runtime  
framework that pulls together the best Open Source alternatives  
to create runtimes that meet the needs of developers and system  
administrators. Our most popular distribution is a fully  
certified J2EE 1.4 application server runtime.  We are working on  
our next version of the server which is based on Java EE 5.


Some of our guiding principles are:

- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software  
License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers,  
administrators and system integrators.
- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like  
Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can  
experience the newest features and have access to the latest bug  
fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines  
required to create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.


===

btw, shouldn't we mention "easy to use" somewhere? ;-)

Cheers!
Hernan





Matt Hogstrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-12-15 Thread Hernan Cunico

Hi All,
I finally updated the web site based on the suggestions discussed in this 
thread.
These changes should get replicated on the live site within the next hour.

Cheers!
Hernan

Hernan Cunico wrote:

Hi All,
this thread has been dormant for the last month or so. If somebody 
thinks we should not update the home page with this content pls speak up 
otherwise I will push the update.
I think this new content looks great (it has all your comments already 
in) and we should have it out there the sooner the better.


Here is the text

===

Welcome to Apache Geronimo

The goal of the Geronimo project is to produce a server runtime 
framework that pulls together the best Open Source alternatives to 
create runtimes that meet the needs of developers and system 
administrators. Our most popular distribution is a fully certified J2EE 
1.4 application server runtime.  We are working on our next version of 
the server which is based on Java EE 5.


Some of our guiding principles are:

- Easy to use.
- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators and 
system integrators.

- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience the 
newest features and have access to the latest bug fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required to 
create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.


===


Cheers!
Hernan

Hernan Cunico wrote:

Matt Hogstrom wrote:


*** New swill ***

Welcome to the Apache Geronimo Project!

Our goal is to produce a server runtime framework that pulls together 
the best Open Source alternatives to create runtimes that meet the 
needs of developers and system administrators.  Our most prominent 
runtime is a fully compliant J2EE container based on J2EE 1.4.  We 
are working on our next version of the server which is based on JEE 
1.5.  Some of our guiding principles are:


- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators 
and system integrators.

- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience 
the newest features and have access to the latest bug fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required 
to create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.




Hey Matt,
It looks a whole lot better from what we have today. Here is my little 
rephrasing (including the comments from Jeff and Joe)


===

Welcome to Apache Geronimo

The goal of the Geronimo project is to produce a server runtime 
framework that pulls together the best Open Source alternatives to 
create runtimes that meet the needs of developers and system 
administrators. Our most popular distribution is a fully certified 
J2EE 1.4 application server runtime.  We are working on our next 
version of the server which is based on Java EE 5.


Some of our guiding principles are:

- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators 
and system integrators.

- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience 
the newest features and have access to the latest bug fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required to 
create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.


===

btw, shouldn't we mention "easy to use" somewhere? ;-)

Cheers!
Hernan





Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-12-01 Thread Hernan Cunico

Hi All,
this thread has been dormant for the last month or so. If somebody thinks we 
should not update the home page with this content pls speak up otherwise I will 
push the update.
I think this new content looks great (it has all your comments already in) and 
we should have it out there the sooner the better.

Here is the text

===

Welcome to Apache Geronimo

The goal of the Geronimo project is to produce a server runtime framework that pulls together the best Open Source alternatives to create runtimes that meet the needs of developers and system administrators. 
Our most popular distribution is a fully certified J2EE 1.4 application server runtime.  We are working on our next version of the server which is based on Java EE 5.


Some of our guiding principles are:

- Easy to use.
- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators and system 
integrators.
- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience the newest 
features and have access to the latest bug fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required to create 
complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.

===


Cheers!
Hernan

Hernan Cunico wrote:

Matt Hogstrom wrote:


*** New swill ***

Welcome to the Apache Geronimo Project!

Our goal is to produce a server runtime framework that pulls together 
the best Open Source alternatives to create runtimes that meet the 
needs of developers and system administrators.  Our most prominent 
runtime is a fully compliant J2EE container based on J2EE 1.4.  We are 
working on our next version of the server which is based on JEE 1.5.  
Some of our guiding principles are:


- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators 
and system integrators.

- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience 
the newest features and have access to the latest bug fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required to 
create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.




Hey Matt,
It looks a whole lot better from what we have today. Here is my little 
rephrasing (including the comments from Jeff and Joe)


===

Welcome to Apache Geronimo

The goal of the Geronimo project is to produce a server runtime 
framework that pulls together the best Open Source alternatives to 
create runtimes that meet the needs of developers and system 
administrators. 
Our most popular distribution is a fully certified J2EE 1.4 application 
server runtime.  We are working on our next version of the server which 
is based on Java EE 5.


Some of our guiding principles are:

- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators and 
system integrators.

- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience the 
newest features and have access to the latest bug fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required to 
create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.


===

btw, shouldn't we mention "easy to use" somewhere? ;-)

Cheers!
Hernan



Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-23 Thread Vamsavardhana Reddy
Yes, "easy to use" should be there.  Even better if it goes into the "guiding principles"!

VamsiOn 10/21/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Matt Hogstrom wrote:> *** New swill ***>> Welcome to the Apache Geronimo Project!>> Our goal is to produce a server runtime framework that pulls together> the best Open Source alternatives to create runtimes that meet the needs
> of developers and system administrators.  Our most prominent runtime is> a fully compliant J2EE container based on J2EE 1.4.  We are working on> our next version of the server which is based on JEE 
1.5.  Some of our> guiding principles are:>> - Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.> - Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators and system integrators.
> - Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.>
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience the
newest features and have access to the latest bug fixes.> - Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required to create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.>Hey Matt,It looks a whole lot better from what we have today. Here is my little rephrasing (including the comments from Jeff and Joe)
===Welcome to Apache GeronimoThe
goal of the Geronimo project is to produce a server runtime framework
that pulls together the best Open Source alternatives to create
runtimes that meet the needs of developers and system administrators.Our
most popular distribution is a fully certified J2EE 1.4 application
server runtime.  We are working on our next version of the
server which is based on Java EE 5.Some of our guiding principles are:- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators and system integrators.
- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience the newest features and have access to the latest bug fixes.- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required to create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.
===btw, shouldn't we mention "easy to use" somewhere? ;-)Cheers!Hernan


Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-23 Thread Prasad Kashyap

Good write-up Matt. And since we are speaking about guiding principles
and goals, I wish we'd also mention someplace that our server will be
built by parts and can be customizable  per the users' needs.

If our geronimo-framework and plugin architecture is what sets us
apart from the others, then let's say it upfront.

Cheers
Prasad

On 10/20/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

(he's right...)

Jeff Genender wrote:
>
> Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>> Thanks...I now officially dub thee Jeff Magnusson Jr. :)
>
> I don't mean to be a stickler...but when I used that term (JEE5) on the
> spec commitee, I really got lashed, so I try to be politically correct ;-)
>
>
>> On Oct 20, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Matt Hogstrom wrote:
 We are working on
 our next version of the server which is based on JEE 1.5.  Some of our
>>> Use "Java EE5" please. JEE 1.5 is a no-no.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>> Matt Hogstrom
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>



Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

(he's right...)

Jeff Genender wrote:


Matt Hogstrom wrote:

Thanks...I now officially dub thee Jeff Magnusson Jr. :)


I don't mean to be a stickler...but when I used that term (JEE5) on the
spec commitee, I really got lashed, so I try to be politically correct ;-)



On Oct 20, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:



Matt Hogstrom wrote:

We are working on
our next version of the server which is based on JEE 1.5.  Some of our

Use "Java EE5" please. JEE 1.5 is a no-no.

Jeff


Matt Hogstrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

Bite me

Matt Hogstrom wrote:

Thanks...I now officially dub thee Jeff Magnusson Jr. :)

On Oct 20, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:




Matt Hogstrom wrote:

We are working on
our next version of the server which is based on JEE 1.5.  Some of our


Use "Java EE5" please. JEE 1.5 is a no-no.

Jeff



Matt Hogstrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-20 Thread Matt Hogstrom


On Oct 20, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:

I don't mean to be a stickler...but when I used that term (JEE5) on  
the
spec commitee, I really got lashed, so I try to be politically  
correct ;-)




Couldn't help myself...I'll make the update as we want to be good  
citizens.



Matt Hogstrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-20 Thread Hernan Cunico

Matt Hogstrom wrote:


*** New swill ***

Welcome to the Apache Geronimo Project!

Our goal is to produce a server runtime framework that pulls together 
the best Open Source alternatives to create runtimes that meet the needs 
of developers and system administrators.  Our most prominent runtime is 
a fully compliant J2EE container based on J2EE 1.4.  We are working on 
our next version of the server which is based on JEE 1.5.  Some of our 
guiding principles are:


- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators and system 
integrators.
- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience the newest 
features and have access to the latest bug fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required to create 
complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.



Hey Matt,
It looks a whole lot better from what we have today. Here is my little 
rephrasing (including the comments from Jeff and Joe)

===

Welcome to Apache Geronimo

The goal of the Geronimo project is to produce a server runtime framework that pulls together the best Open Source alternatives to create runtimes that meet the needs of developers and system administrators.  


Our most popular distribution is a fully certified J2EE 1.4 application server 
runtime.  We are working on our next version of the server which is based on 
Java EE 5.

Some of our guiding principles are:

- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators and system 
integrators.
- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience the newest 
features and have access to the latest bug fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required to create 
complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.

===

btw, shouldn't we mention "easy to use" somewhere? ;-)

Cheers!
Hernan


Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-20 Thread Jeff Genender


Joe Bohn wrote:

> I agree with Jeff that we should use JEE 5.

No...*Java* EE5 ;-)


Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-20 Thread Joe Bohn

Matt Hogstrom wrote:


*** New swill ***

Welcome to the Apache Geronimo Project!

Our goal is to produce a server runtime framework that pulls together  
the best Open Source alternatives to create runtimes that meet the  
needs of developers and system administrators.  Our most prominent  
runtime is a fully compliant J2EE container based on J2EE 1.4.  We  are 
working on our next version of the server which is based on JEE  1.5.  
Some of our guiding principles are:


- Build servers that are distributed under the Apache Software License.
- Provide runtimes that meet the needs of developers, administrators  
and system integrators.

- Integrate with the best open source tooling available like Eclipse.
- Provide frequent releases of our software so users can experience  the 
newest features and have access to the latest bug fixes.
- Build a community that incorporates multiple disciplines required  to 
create complex runtime and toolable infrastructure.




I think this is much better.

I agree with Jeff that we should use JEE 5.

I would also start a new paragraph with the "Our most prominent runtime 
 " item.  This is what most of our users care about for the time 
being and I think we want to make sure it is prominent.


Joe



Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-20 Thread Jeff Genender


Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Thanks...I now officially dub thee Jeff Magnusson Jr. :)

I don't mean to be a stickler...but when I used that term (JEE5) on the
spec commitee, I really got lashed, so I try to be politically correct ;-)


> 
> On Oct 20, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>>> We are working on
>>> our next version of the server which is based on JEE 1.5.  Some of our
>>
>> Use "Java EE5" please. JEE 1.5 is a no-no.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
> 
> Matt Hogstrom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 


Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-20 Thread Matt Hogstrom

Thanks...I now officially dub thee Jeff Magnusson Jr. :)

On Oct 20, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:




Matt Hogstrom wrote:

We are working on
our next version of the server which is based on JEE 1.5.  Some of  
our


Use "Java EE5" please. JEE 1.5 is a no-no.

Jeff



Matt Hogstrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Geronimo WebSite Goals Update

2006-10-20 Thread Jeff Genender


Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> We are working on
> our next version of the server which is based on JEE 1.5.  Some of our

Use "Java EE5" please. JEE 1.5 is a no-no.

Jeff