Re: Why no Debian package of Geronimo
On May 18, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Peter Petersson wrote: Hi Jontto Upps! I did not realize I was reading the dev list and answering a question addressed to a geronimo developer ;). FYI I am not a geronimo developer just a user but I hope my contribution to the discussion make sens anyway. Peter, Anyone is welcome to contribute to our developer's mailing list. Your response was quite appropriate, I think. I certainly appreciated your perspective... :-) So, thank you very much! Peter Petersson wrote: Hi Jontto I have been following debian (and lately ubuntu) development for some years now and I think this question should also be asked (or even better asked) in the debian mailing list in particular the debian-java list http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/ I think the java team in debian would find geronimo to be fairly simple to repackage to suite the linux FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard) and additional stuff they would have to change or add for it to be a suitable debian/ubuntu package. That sounds good. If there are things that our community can do to help encourage/enable this, please let us know! --kevan jontto wrote: Hi, I could not find a Debian package of Geronimo, is there any particular reason for this or has it just not got done yet? Of course you can download the normal Linux package and run that, but a Debian package with the configuration files and misc scripts placed in the Debian typical way in the directories would be nice.
Re: Why no Debian package of Geronimo
Hi Jontto Upps! I did not realize I was reading the dev list and answering a question addressed to a geronimo developer ;). FYI I am not a geronimo developer just a user but I hope my contribution to the discussion make sens anyway. regards peter petersson Peter Petersson wrote: Hi Jontto I have been following debian (and lately ubuntu) development for some years now and I think this question should also be asked (or even better asked) in the debian mailing list in particular the debian-java list http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/ I think the java team in debian would find geronimo to be fairly simple to repackage to suite the linux FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard) and additional stuff they would have to change or add for it to be a suitable debian/ubuntu package. regards peter petersson jontto wrote: Hi, I could not find a Debian package of Geronimo, is there any particular reason for this or has it just not got done yet? Of course you can download the normal Linux package and run that, but a Debian package with the configuration files and misc scripts placed in the Debian typical way in the directories would be nice.
Re: Why no Debian package of Geronimo
Hi Jontto I have been following debian (and lately ubuntu) development for some years now and I think this question should also be asked (or even better asked) in the debian mailing list in particular the debian-java list http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/ I think the java team in debian would find geronimo to be fairly simple to repackage to suite the linux FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard) and additional stuff they would have to change or add for it to be a suitable debian/ubuntu package. regards peter petersson jontto wrote: Hi, I could not find a Debian package of Geronimo, is there any particular reason for this or has it just not got done yet? Of course you can download the normal Linux package and run that, but a Debian package with the configuration files and misc scripts placed in the Debian typical way in the directories would be nice.
Re: Why no Debian package of Geronimo
On May 17, 2008, at 5:07 PM, David Jencks wrote: On May 17, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM, jontto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I could not find a Debian package of Geronimo, is there any particular reason for this or has it just not got done yet? The latter is the answer I guess. Nobody took care of it yet. Would you mind? Report a task in JIRA and work on it. I'd like to know what this involves and why this is a good idea before anyone spends much time on it. I don't think we want to encourage anyone to adopt a non-standard server layout without a good reason, and without this I'd expect any packaging to consist of the tar.gz server distro. Now there's the question, which one. we have about 5 now. I don't think this is so much looking for a non-standard server layout, but a standard server layout in a Debian-specific package format with additional Debian specific meta-data. If somebody wants to spend time on this, they are welcome to (naturally)... However, it's another matter if they want to start checking in code... ;-) I'm not so sure that we want to become a source for linux distribution package formats. Seems like we could spend a fair amount of time running down Linux distribution specific package formats (e.g. SuSe, RedHat, Debian, Ubuntu, etc). I guess something that almost makes sense to be would be a "server construction kit" consisting of a geronimo plugin repository together with the framework server so that you could assemble servers of your choice. I think this is pretty different in philosophy from most debian packages however. Well we already have that in a form... A full java ee server can assemble servers of user's choosing. Would agree that we should consider methods of building up servers (or more dynamically starting server components). I view that as orthogonal to any linux distribution packaging we might do... --kevan
Re: Why no Debian package of Geronimo
On May 17, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM, jontto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I could not find a Debian package of Geronimo, is there any particular reason for this or has it just not got done yet? The latter is the answer I guess. Nobody took care of it yet. Would you mind? Report a task in JIRA and work on it. I'd like to know what this involves and why this is a good idea before anyone spends much time on it. I don't think we want to encourage anyone to adopt a non-standard server layout without a good reason, and without this I'd expect any packaging to consist of the tar.gz server distro. Now there's the question, which one. we have about 5 now. I guess something that almost makes sense to be would be a "server construction kit" consisting of a geronimo plugin repository together with the framework server so that you could assemble servers of your choice. I think this is pretty different in philosophy from most debian packages however. thanks david jencks Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
Re: Why no Debian package of Geronimo
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM, jontto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I could not find a Debian package of Geronimo, is there any particular > reason for this or has it just not got done yet? The latter is the answer I guess. Nobody took care of it yet. Would you mind? Report a task in JIRA and work on it. Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
