Re: [classlib][testing] what is default behavior for intermittently failed tests exclude lists?

2007-03-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
yes, but not by CC, and also, if we can find a way to tag them in the  
output so when we see a failure, and it's tagged as "intermittent",  
the developer knows to run it again rather than go hunting.



I really do think that we'd be well served by fixing the intermittent  
tests - they point at something broken that we just don't understand,  
and that gives me the heebie-jeebies.  I don't mind things that are  
known to be broken, if we understand why, but mysteries?  no thanks :)



geir

On Mar 12, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Alexey Petrenko wrote:


+1 for running intermittently failed tests by default

2007/3/12, Vladimir Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hello everyone,
I want to discuss issue 3352 while it changes the current behavior of
excluding policy for intermittently failed tests. I suggest running
intermittently failed test by default. So the resulting exclude list
by default will be combined as common + platform instead of common +
platform + intermittent.
Is it OK?

 thanks, Vladimir





Re: [classlib][testing] what is default behavior for intermittently failed tests exclude lists?

2007-03-13 Thread Alexei Zakharov

FYI I've applied Vladimir's patch for HARMONY-3352. So from now we
will have all intermittent tests included by default. Note to all CC
owners: please add "-Dexclude.interm=true" to your CC configs since we
have agreed not to run intermttent tests on CC.

Thanks,

2007/3/12, Alexey Petrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

+1 for running intermittently failed tests by default

2007/3/12, Vladimir Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello everyone,
> I want to discuss issue 3352 while it changes the current behavior of
> excluding policy for intermittently failed tests. I suggest running
> intermittently failed test by default. So the resulting exclude list
> by default will be combined as common + platform instead of common +
> platform + intermittent.
> Is it OK?
>
>  thanks, Vladimir




--
Alexei Zakharov,
Intel ESSD


Re: [classlib][testing] what is default behavior for intermittently failed tests exclude lists?

2007-03-12 Thread Alexey Petrenko

+1 for running intermittently failed tests by default

2007/3/12, Vladimir Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hello everyone,
I want to discuss issue 3352 while it changes the current behavior of
excluding policy for intermittently failed tests. I suggest running
intermittently failed test by default. So the resulting exclude list
by default will be combined as common + platform instead of common +
platform + intermittent.
Is it OK?

 thanks, Vladimir



Re: [classlib][testing] what is default behavior for intermittently failed tests exclude lists?

2007-03-12 Thread Mikhail Loenko

Now I see. I missed "instead of" in Vladimir's message. Thanks!

Mikhail

2007/3/12, Alexei Zakharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

As far as I understand Vladimir's question was should we include
intermittently failed test by default and exclude them only if a
special switch is given or vice versa. I.e. about the build switch
semantics. Personally I don't care. Just be prepared to possible
failures and ready to run recently donated script :)

Regards,

2007/3/12, Mikhail Loenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> IIRC we agreed to exclude intermittently failing tests from CC (to
> avoid false alarms)
> and to include them to pre-commit testing (to benmefit from other
> valid tests that are excluded in the same bundle)
>
> Thanks,
> Mikhail
>
> 2007/3/12, Vladimir Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hello everyone,
> > I want to discuss issue 3352 while it changes the current behavior of
> > excluding policy for intermittently failed tests. I suggest running
> > intermittently failed test by default. So the resulting exclude list
> > by default will be combined as common + platform instead of common +
> > platform + intermittent.
> > Is it OK?
> >
> >  thanks, Vladimir
> >
>


--
Alexei Zakharov,
Intel ESSD



Re: [classlib][testing] what is default behavior for intermittently failed tests exclude lists?

2007-03-12 Thread Alexei Zakharov

As far as I understand Vladimir's question was should we include
intermittently failed test by default and exclude them only if a
special switch is given or vice versa. I.e. about the build switch
semantics. Personally I don't care. Just be prepared to possible
failures and ready to run recently donated script :)

Regards,

2007/3/12, Mikhail Loenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

IIRC we agreed to exclude intermittently failing tests from CC (to
avoid false alarms)
and to include them to pre-commit testing (to benmefit from other
valid tests that are excluded in the same bundle)

Thanks,
Mikhail

2007/3/12, Vladimir Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello everyone,
> I want to discuss issue 3352 while it changes the current behavior of
> excluding policy for intermittently failed tests. I suggest running
> intermittently failed test by default. So the resulting exclude list
> by default will be combined as common + platform instead of common +
> platform + intermittent.
> Is it OK?
>
>  thanks, Vladimir
>




--
Alexei Zakharov,
Intel ESSD


Re: [classlib][testing] what is default behavior for intermittently failed tests exclude lists?

2007-03-12 Thread Mikhail Loenko

2007/3/12, Alexei Zakharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

IMO to make use of this we probably need a script that generates
combined list of known intermittent failures for all modules. So the
committer can quickly check if the observed failure is Ok (i.e. the
test by itself fails from time to time) or not.


cat modules/*/make/*interm

ASF license granted :)

Thanks,
Mikhail





Regards,

2007/3/12, Vladimir Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello everyone,
> I want to discuss issue 3352 while it changes the current behavior of
> excluding policy for intermittently failed tests. I suggest running
> intermittently failed test by default. So the resulting exclude list
> by default will be combined as common + platform instead of common +
> platform + intermittent.
> Is it OK?
>
>  thanks, Vladimir

--
Alexei Zakharov,
Intel ESSD



Re: [classlib][testing] what is default behavior for intermittently failed tests exclude lists?

2007-03-12 Thread Mikhail Loenko

IIRC we agreed to exclude intermittently failing tests from CC (to
avoid false alarms)
and to include them to pre-commit testing (to benmefit from other
valid tests that are excluded in the same bundle)

Thanks,
Mikhail

2007/3/12, Vladimir Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hello everyone,
I want to discuss issue 3352 while it changes the current behavior of
excluding policy for intermittently failed tests. I suggest running
intermittently failed test by default. So the resulting exclude list
by default will be combined as common + platform instead of common +
platform + intermittent.
Is it OK?

 thanks, Vladimir



Re: [classlib][testing] what is default behavior for intermittently failed tests exclude lists?

2007-03-12 Thread Alexei Zakharov

IMO to make use of this we probably need a script that generates
combined list of known intermittent failures for all modules. So the
committer can quickly check if the observed failure is Ok (i.e. the
test by itself fails from time to time) or not.

Regards,

2007/3/12, Vladimir Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hello everyone,
I want to discuss issue 3352 while it changes the current behavior of
excluding policy for intermittently failed tests. I suggest running
intermittently failed test by default. So the resulting exclude list
by default will be combined as common + platform instead of common +
platform + intermittent.
Is it OK?

 thanks, Vladimir


--
Alexei Zakharov,
Intel ESSD


[classlib][testing] what is default behavior for intermittently failed tests exclude lists?

2007-03-12 Thread Vladimir Ivanov

Hello everyone,
I want to discuss issue 3352 while it changes the current behavior of
excluding policy for intermittently failed tests. I suggest running
intermittently failed test by default. So the resulting exclude list
by default will be combined as common + platform instead of common +
platform + intermittent.
Is it OK?

thanks, Vladimir