Re: mod_cache responsibilities vs mod_xxx_cache provider responsibilities

2006-09-14 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: mod_cache responsibilities vs mod_xxx_cache provider responsibilities

2006-09-14 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Graham Leggett wrote: Niklas Edmundsson wrote: Will it be possible to do away with one file for headers and one file for body in mod_disk_cache with this scheme? This definitely has lots of advantages - however HTTP/1.1 requires that it be possible to modify

[PATCH] (resend) mod_disk_cache LFS-aware config

2006-09-14 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: mod_cache responsibilities vs mod_xxx_cache provider responsibilities

2006-09-14 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Davi Arnaut wrote: On 14/09/2006, at 04:24, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Davi Arnaut wrote: I'm working on this. You may want to check my proposal at http://verdesmares.com/Apache/proposal.txt Will it be possible to do away with one file for headers

Re: [PATCH] (resend) mod_disk_cache LFS-aware config

2006-09-14 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Graham Leggett wrote: On Thu, September 14, 2006 11:17 am, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: To facilitate the merging of our large mod_disk_cache fixup I will send small patches that fix various bugs so that they can be applied incrementally to trunk with relevant discussion

Re: mod_cache responsibilities vs mod_xxx_cache provider responsibilities

2006-09-14 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: [PATCH] (resend) mod_disk_cache LFS-aware config

2006-09-14 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Graham Leggett wrote: On Thu, September 14, 2006 2:41 pm, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: Yup. The situation seems to be complicated somewhat by Davi working on the cache-thingies, and doing more than just poking around in the mod_cache infrastructure... However, it seems

Re: mod_cache responsibilities vs mod_xxx_cache provider responsibilities

2006-09-16 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
in this environment. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I wish I had a snappy Trek Message

Re: mod_cache responsibilities vs mod_xxx_cache provider responsibilities

2006-09-18 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Graham Leggett wrote: Niklas Edmundsson wrote: However, I don't see how you can do a lockless design with multiple files and an index that can do: * Clients read from the cache as files are being cached. * Only one session caches the same file. * Header/Body updates

Re: mod_cache responsibilities vs mod_xxx_cache provider responsibilities

2006-09-20 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Brian Akins wrote: Niklas Edmundsson wrote: Extra tracking sounds unnecessary if you can do it in a way that doesn't need it. It's not extra it just adding some tracking. When an objects gets cached log (sql, db, whatever) that /blah/foo/bar.html is cached as /cache

Re: mod_cache responsibilities vs mod_xxx_cache provider responsibilities

2006-09-20 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
header. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- That's not a bug. It's supposed to do that. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: mod_cache responsibilities vs mod_xxx_cache provider responsibilities

2006-09-20 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Brian Akins wrote: Niklas Edmundsson wrote: don't care about performance... Actually, cache on xfs mounted with atime doesn't seem to be a performance killer oddly enough... Our frontends had no problems surviving 1k requests/s during the latest mozilla-update-barrage

[PATCH] mod_disk_cache working LFS (filecopy)

2006-09-26 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
mod_disk_cache, and the md5sum is correct afterwards. The old behaviour was eating all the address space/memory and segfault. I'll attach the thing to bug #39380 as well. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n

Re: [PATCH] mod_disk_cache working LFS (filecopy)

2006-09-26 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
which changes daily. By using caching frontends we can easily fill our available 2Gbit even though the backend can only do about 300-400Mbit. This is possible because of a cache hit rate of about 90%. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

Re: [PATCH] mod_disk_cache working LFS (filecopy)

2006-09-26 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
in our caching-frontend-for-ftpserver-case ... /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- But I

Re: [PATCH] mod_disk_cache working LFS (filecopy)

2006-09-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Graham Leggett wrote: Niklas Edmundsson wrote: * Realising that a file is a file and can be copied as such, without reading the whole thing into memory first. * When a file is cached by copying, replace the brigade with a new one refering to the cached file so we

Re: svn commit: r450188 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/cache/mod_disk_cache.c

2006-09-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
, body so it should only be called once per request. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I am Jay

Re: svn commit: r450105 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES modules/cache/mod_disk_cache.c modules/cache/mod_disk_cache.h

2006-09-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: [PATCH] mod_disk_cache working LFS (filecopy)

2006-09-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Graham Leggett wrote: On Wed, September 27, 2006 11:07 am, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: In practice this isn't enough when dealing with large files, so in our production code (the hideously large jumbopatch) this is fixed by read-while-caching and spawning a thread to do

[PATCH] mod_cache: Don't log bogus errors

2006-09-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
occured and that an error web page has already been sent (documented in CHANGES of all places). The additional garbage in the error log doesn't make anyone happy... /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se

Re: [PATCH] mod_disk_cache working LFS (filecopy)

2006-10-01 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: [PATCH] mod_disk_cache working LFS (filecopy)

2006-10-02 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
anyway (at least I need it, but I might have missed some nifty feature in APR). /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PATCH] mod_disk_cache working LFS (filecopy)

2006-10-02 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
nifty feature in APR). You would just need to copy the remaining buckets (granted if there are no concurrency problems) and send then to a per-process thread pool. And when not having threads? /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

Re: Coding style

2006-10-03 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
to cause ugly linewraps when using functions_with_long_names(and, a, large, list, of, arguments) ... /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

[PATCH] sendfile_nonblocking broken in trunk

2006-10-04 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: [PATCHES] mod_disk_cache read-while-caching

2006-10-08 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: OK, here comes the latest two patches in the mod_disk_cache improvement parody. I'll attach these patches to bug #39380, but with less comments. I discovered a few misses, mostly not NULL:ing fd pointers when closing them, missing close/flush

[PATCH] mod_disk_cache background copy

2006-10-08 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: [PATCH] mod_disk_cache background copy

2006-10-11 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: mod_disk_cache summarization

2006-10-24 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: mod_disk_cache summarization

2006-10-24 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
that we should acknowledge that they exist and provide the relevant knobs where necessary. As it looks right now, those knobs tend to be more OS/filesystem specific, but that might change as this evolves. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

Re: mod_disk_cache summarization

2006-10-24 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
mod_cache/mod_disk_cache even near a usable state simply won't happen... You can't both have we want fixes in small incremental pieces and this thing sucks, make it perfect at once. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin

Re: svn commit: r468373 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES modules/cache/mod_cache.c modules/cache/mod_cache.h modules/cache/mod_disk_cache.c modules/cache/mod_disk_cache.h modules/cache/

2006-10-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
tells you that APR has sendfile. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- My favorite color? Red

Re: svn commit: r467655 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES docs/manual/mod/mod_cache.xml modules/cache/mod_cache.c modules/cache/mod_cache.h

2006-10-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
other than enabling a non-profit computer club building a FTP/HTTP server that actually works. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: svn commit: r468373 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES modules/cache/mod_cache.c modules/cache/mod_cache.h modules/cache/mod_disk_cache.c modules/cache/mod_disk_cache.h modules/cache/

2006-10-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
-bound without much help from the OS disk cache. Also, httpd seems to be faster delivering data by sendfile than delivering data from memory buckets. That's more of a performance bug in httpd though. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

Re: mod_disk_cache summarization

2006-10-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Graham Leggett wrote: On Tue, October 24, 2006 2:48 pm, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: Perhaps this could be as simple as using ServerName and ServerAlias (unless the name of the site is part of the URL, which will happen in the forward proxy case) to reduce the cached URL

Re: cache: the store_body interface

2006-10-31 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
, and since I wanted to be able to do read-while-caching I dropped the mmap-write-idea since the drawbacks was way larger than the benefits. YMMV /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL

Re: mod_disk_cache and mod_include bugs and suggestions

2007-01-15 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
generator, which also isn't cacheable for the same reasons SSI aren't. Modern httpd releases can work around this if you set IndexOptions TrackModified, look in the docs for more info and limitations. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

Re: Solved: mod_disk_cache and mod_include bugs and suggestions

2007-01-17 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
problems, I would recommend staying on 2.2.4 proper and look further into the issue of expired/last-modified headers. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

mod_disk_cache jumbopatch - new revision

2007-01-17 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
ftp too, all usable ftpd's we have seen uses chroot() which causes trouble when trying to wrap open() and friends to access files outside the chroot ;) /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se

Re: Solved: mod_disk_cache and mod_include bugs and suggestions

2007-01-17 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: Solved: mod_disk_cache and mod_include bugs and suggestions

2007-01-17 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
/show_bug.cgi?id=39380 ... I think I will give it a spin, more to give you feedback on possible issues with SSI. Do that. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Solved: mod_disk_cache and mod_include bugs and suggestions

2007-01-18 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
when it comes to caching and dynamic content. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Want to forget

mod_cache: save filter recalls body to non-empty brigade?

2007-01-24 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
brigade. Wouldn't it be more correct to empty the brigade before calling recall_body()? Or am I missing something? This is mod_cache in vanilla httpd 2.2.4 by the way. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n

Re: mod_cache: save filter recalls body to non-empty brigade?

2007-01-24 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Graham Leggett wrote: On Wed, January 24, 2007 2:15 pm, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: In mod_cache, recall_body() is called in the cache_save_filter() when revalidating an entity. However, if I have understood things correctly the brigade is already populated when the save

Re: mod_cache: save filter recalls body to non-empty brigade?

2007-01-25 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
to the filter is named in, the one where recall_body stores the cached file is bb. I the case of a recalled body we pass bb down the chain not in. Ah, of course. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se

Re: 3.0 - Proposed Goals

2007-02-14 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: 3.0 - Proposed Goals

2007-02-14 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, Nick Kew wrote: On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:41:38 +0100 (MET) Niklas Edmundsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One problem here is that this kind of docco usually needs to be made by those who hate to write it: the core programmers. The core programmers use the core programmer

Please backport mod_cache PR 41475 to 2.2.5 ...

2007-02-23 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
fixes in 2.2.5 so we don't have to keep track of them when upgrading... /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [RFC] Guide to writing output filters

2007-03-17 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
at the existing pages that says this should be improved/updated/written life would be bliss :) And yes, I know that writing documentation is a drag. However, in the long run it pays off. Really. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

mod_ftp, status and progress?

2007-03-23 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
and the globbing mess really needs a Clued Httpd Developer sorting out the various odds and ends. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: mod_ftp, status and progress?

2007-03-26 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
the traditional interfaces (PORT/PASV) but we need to hack together EPRT/EPSV support, yet. OK. This shouldn't be too hard, given that EPRT/EPSV doesn't differ too much from PORT/PASV. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc

Re: PATCH 19824 -- enhancement to mod_expires

2007-04-01 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: mod_cache: 304 on HEAD (bug 41230)

2007-04-11 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: Would the correct fix be to check for r-header_only in cache_select(), or are there even more funky stuff going on? You don't want the cached object to be removed just because you got a HEAD request when it really isn't stale but just in need

[PATCH] mod_cache 304 on HEAD (bug 41230)

2007-04-13 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: Looking a bit further, I think that something like this would actually be enough: snip, included as an attachment I have now tested this patch, and it seems to solve the problem. This is on httpd-2.2.4 + patch for PR41475 + our mod_disk_cache

Re: [PATCH] mod_cache 304 on HEAD (bug 41230)

2007-04-17 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
, as long as the bug gets fixed I'm happy :) /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Push any key

Re: [PATCH] mod_cache 304 on HEAD (bug 41230)

2007-04-17 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
seems to get them confused... /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- HEALTH: The slowest

Re: mod_ftp, status and progress?

2007-04-26 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
... Wouldn't apr_match_glob() be a better starting point? I don't really see the point of going via regexes... /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: mod_ftp, status and progress?

2007-04-26 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: mod_ftp, status and progress?

2007-04-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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mod_ftp: [PATCH] Make REST work with large files

2007-04-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
it in the twisty maze of svn trees though. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Fiddle: Friction

[PATCH] mod_cache: Don't follow NULL pointers.

2007-05-02 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
it segfaults your httpd even with valid headers... /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I am

Re: [PATCH] mod_cache: Don't follow NULL pointers.

2007-05-02 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Wed, 2 May 2007, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: We encountered the following bug: httpd segfaulted due to a client emitting Cache-Control: max-age=216000, max-stale which is a perfectly valid header. The segfault is caused by the fact that ap_cache_liststr() sets the value pointer to NULL when

Re: mod_ftp, status and progress?

2007-05-03 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: mod_ftp, status and progress?

2007-05-03 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
that making it play well with mod_cache would come more or less for free after the request-refactoring is done? /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: ftp glob/limits?

2007-05-15 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
to restrictive, a more relaxed behaviour must be explicitly configured. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Any progress on PR41230 (HEAD issues on cached items)?

2007-05-17 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: Any progress on PR41230 (HEAD issues on cached items)?

2007-05-21 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Fri, 18 May 2007, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 5/17/07, Niklas Edmundsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has there been any progress on PR41230? I submitted a patch that at least seems to improve the situation that now seems to have seen some testing by others as well. As I have stated before

mod_cache: Don't update when req max-age=0?

2007-05-21 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
with max-age!=0 that can benefit from the header rewrite won't be affected by this change. Am I making sense? Have I missed something fundamental? /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se

Re: mod_cache: Don't update when req max-age=0?

2007-05-21 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
that only serves large files that we know doesn't need the RFC behaviour. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: mod_cache: Don't update when req max-age=0?

2007-05-22 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Mon, 21 May 2007, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On May 21, 2007, at 7:49 AM, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: Does anybody see a problem with changing mod_cache to not update the stored headers when the request has max-age=0, the body turns out not to be stale and the on-disk header hasn't expired? Yes

Re: mod_cache: Don't update when req max-age=0?

2007-05-24 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Tue, 22 May 2007, Henrik Nordstrom wrote: tis 2007-05-22 klockan 11:40 +0200 skrev Niklas Edmundsson: -8--- Does anybody see a problem with changing mod_cache to not update the stored headers when the request has max-age=0, the body turns out not to be stale and the on-disk

Re: mod_cache: Don't update when req max-age=0?

2007-05-24 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
because it might be accessed by max-age!=0 makes no sense, since it's more likely that the next request to this object will have the same max-age. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se

mod_disk_cache jumbopatch - 20070727 revision

2007-07-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
and inode when available. HTTPD has already done the stat() of the file for us, so it's essentially free. * Tidied up the handling of updated files, only delete files in cache if they're really obsolete. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

mod_limitipconn for httpd 2.2 and mod_cache

2007-07-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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[PATCH]: mod_cache: don't store headers that will never be used

2007-07-29 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
anything. Patch is tested on httpd-2.2.4 and works as expected according to my tests. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PATCH]: mod_cache: don't store headers that will never be used

2007-07-30 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: [PATCH]: mod_cache: don't store headers that will never be used

2007-07-30 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
options... /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- * . . . . . - Tribble Mother and Young =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: [PATCH]: mod_cache: don't store headers that will never be used

2007-07-30 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: However, if stuff is really depending on Date/Expires being what it thinks it is (*shiver*) then I guess there won't be any other options... Here's a version with a config directive, defaults to disabled. Thoughts? /Nikke

Re: [PATCH]: mod_cache: don't store headers that will never be used

2007-07-31 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
be to accomplish this? /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- * - Tribble þ oð oð - Tribbles

Re: 1.3 bugs

2007-08-02 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
a bug report again. This is especially true if the reporter had come up with a fix and produced a patch... /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PATCH]: mod_cache: don't store headers that will never be used

2007-08-08 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Niklas Edmundsson wrote: Any opinions on this? Here's a version with a config directive, defaults to disabled. Silly Q; a directive? Or a env var that can be scoped in interesting ways using mod_setenvif and/or mod_rewrite? Most of our proxy behavior overrides

Re: CHANGES

2007-08-08 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
Friday. I'm no committer or anything, but it sounds like the sane way to do it. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PATCH]: mod_cache: don't store headers that will never be used (fwd)

2007-10-10 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: [PATCH]: mod_cache: don't store headers that will never be used (fwd)

2007-10-17 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Graham Leggett wrote: Niklas Edmundsson wrote: What I'd like answered is: - Was the latest patch as suggested OK? The latest patch was the one with a directive, which is +1 from me - though is it possible to add documentation for the directive? Sure. Is http://apache

Proposal: Increase request in worker_score

2007-10-20 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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mod_disk_cache jumbopatch - 20071016 revision for 2.2.6.

2007-10-21 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
files and file system traversals. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- * * * - Tribbles O O O

Re: Apache 2.2 MPM Worker Virtual Memory Usage

2007-10-21 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
in httpd/APR by calling setrlimit before starting the threads, however I think it's probably better to just document this Linux thread bogosity and let vendors fix their httpd startup scripts though. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

Re: Proposal: Increase request in worker_score

2007-10-22 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
been put into it, but if it's forgotten we'll have to live with yet another major version with this annoyingly small default buffer. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Segmentation fault( SSL enable Apache 2.2.6(64 bit)

2007-10-25 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
. This issue is coming only when openssl is coming into the picture. What cud be the possible reason? Please reply. Did your openssl 64bit build pass make test (or make check, whatever it's called)? /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

RE: Segmentation fault( SSL enable Apache 2.2.6(64 bit)

2007-10-25 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
hitting some bug that's been fixed. You might want to check your C runtime patch levels, and other patches too for that matter. -Original Message- From: Niklas Edmundsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:36 PM To: 'dev@httpd.apache.org' Subject: Re

Re: Proxying subrequests

2007-10-28 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
if it solves my problem. Cross-site-include-holes are nasty, and I see it as a feature that they are not supported ;) /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Proposal: Increase request in worker_score

2007-10-31 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
additional feedback with that in mind before I propose a backport. Seems reasonable for 2.2. I'm not too keen on the directive name though, but since I have no better suggestion I'll be quiet now ;) /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

Re: svn commit: r601843 - in /httpd/mod_ftp/trunk: STATUS include/mod_ftp.h

2007-12-06 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: [VOTE] initial release of httpd-mod_ftp-0.9.0

2007-12-18 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
builds on both Linux and AIX (out of tree, for httpd 2.2.6). I'll await the 0.9.1 tag before doing more elaborate tests though. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED

What's the right way to spawn a child in modules?

2006-04-27 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
letting the request be processed simultaneously. Is this doable? Would it be considered offensive to do apr_thread_create() if threads are available and fork() otherwise? Other ways to solve this? /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas

Re: What's the right way to spawn a child in modules?

2006-04-28 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: Possible new cache architecture

2006-05-02 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
are interested in having a look at it now. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Want to forget all your

mod_disk_cache patch, preview edition (was: new cache arch)

2006-05-02 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
works, and other smaller issues. /Nikke -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Niklas Edmundsson, Admin @ {acc,hpc2n}.umu.se | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I am Zirofsky of Borg. I

Re: Possible new cache architecture

2006-05-02 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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Re: Possible new cache architecture

2006-05-02 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
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