Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-26 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Friday 25 January 2013, Daniel Gruno wrote:
 [  ] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...

+1


Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-26 Thread Rainer Jung
On 25.01.2013 14:21, Daniel Gruno wrote:
 
 Vote
 
 
 [XX] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...

+1

Thanks!

Rainer



Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-26 Thread Eric Covener
 [  ] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...

+1


Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-26 Thread Roy T. Fielding
+1

Roy


Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 01/25/2013 02:21 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
 
 Vote
 
 
 [ X ] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...
 
 This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours, thus ending, at
 earliest, on Monday, January 28th, 13:20 GMT.
 Standard majority consensus applies, as it has with all other web site
 changes.
 
 With regards,
 Daniel.
 
Adding my own +1.


Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Daniel Gruno rum...@cord.dk wrote:

 
 Proposal
 
 1) Move the current modules.apache.org to modules-archive.apache.org
 2) Create a link on both modules.apache.org and
 modules-archive.apache.org linking to each other.
 3) Replace modules.apache.org with the new modules site, currently
 available at http://modules.humbedooh.com and also available in svn for
 review.
 4) Start afresh with a new, empty database on modules.apache.org and
 have modules-archive.apache.org retain the old database.
 5) Contact all authors who have created or modified a module on the site
 within the last 2 years (this is 59 authors), and inform them of the new
 site, encouraging them to resubmit their modules.
 6) Allow modules.apache.org to fetch DOAP files for projects, placed
 anywhere on the Internet, thus acting as an aggregator of publicly
 available information.


 
 Vote
 

 [X] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...




Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Ruediger Pluem


Daniel Gruno wrote:
 So, this is when we get to vote on things!
 I am satisfied that the new site is working as intended, and that new
 requests for features can be integrated and reviewed, as the site is
 publicly available in svn (in the infrastructure repository).
 
 Now, the vote deals with a lot of things, so I'd like you to read the
 proposal carefully.
 
 
 Proposal
 
 1) Move the current modules.apache.org to modules-archive.apache.org
 2) Create a link on both modules.apache.org and
 modules-archive.apache.org linking to each other.
 3) Replace modules.apache.org with the new modules site, currently
 available at http://modules.humbedooh.com and also available in svn for
 review.
 4) Start afresh with a new, empty database on modules.apache.org and
 have modules-archive.apache.org retain the old database.
 5) Contact all authors who have created or modified a module on the site
 within the last 2 years (this is 59 authors), and inform them of the new
 site, encouraging them to resubmit their modules.
 6) Allow modules.apache.org to fetch DOAP files for projects, placed
 anywhere on the Internet, thus acting as an aggregator of publicly
 available information.
 
 
 
 Vote
 
 
 [ X ] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...
 
 This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours, thus ending, at
 earliest, on Monday, January 28th, 13:20 GMT.
 Standard majority consensus applies, as it has with all other web site
 changes.
 
 With regards,
 Daniel.
 


Regards

Rüdiger


Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Jim Jagielski

On Jan 25, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Daniel Gruno rum...@cord.dk wrote:
 
 Proposal
 
 1) Move the current modules.apache.org to modules-archive.apache.org

And made read-only, right?

 2) Create a link on both modules.apache.org and
 modules-archive.apache.org linking to each other.
 3) Replace modules.apache.org with the new modules site, currently
 available at http://modules.humbedooh.com and also available in svn for
 review.
 4) Start afresh with a new, empty database on modules.apache.org and
 have modules-archive.apache.org retain the old database.
 5) Contact all authors who have created or modified a module on the site
 within the last 2 years (this is 59 authors), and inform them of the new
 site, encouraging them to resubmit their modules.
 6) Allow modules.apache.org to fetch DOAP files for projects, placed
 anywhere on the Internet, thus acting as an aggregator of publicly
 available information.
 
 
 
 Vote
 
 
 [  ] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...

+1



Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 01/25/2013 04:00 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
 
 On Jan 25, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Daniel Gruno rum...@cord.dk wrote:
 
 Proposal
 
 1) Move the current modules.apache.org to modules-archive.apache.org
 
 And made read-only, right?
 
Yes, it will be a read only archive - no sense in fooling authors into
posting on the old site as well as the new one (also, the approval
process there makes me nauseous).

With regards,
Daniel.



Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Guenter Knauf

Am 25.01.2013 14:21, schrieb Daniel Gruno:


Vote


[  ] +1: I support this proposal
[  ]  0: I don't care
[  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...

+1

Gün.




Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread MATSUMOTO Ryosue
 
 
 
 Vote
 
 
 [  ] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...
 
 This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours, thus ending, at
 earliest, on Monday, January 28th, 13:20 GMT.
 Standard majority consensus applies, as it has with all other web site
 changes.
 
 With regards,
 Daniel.

+1


Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Gregg Smith

On 1/25/2013 5:21 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:


Vote


[X] +1: I support this proposal
[  ]  0: I don't care
[  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...




Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Rich Bowen
+1

On Jan 25, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:

 [  ] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...

-- 
Rich Bowen
rbo...@rcbowen.com :: @rbowen
rbo...@apache.org








Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Graham Leggett
On 25 Jan 2013, at 13:21, Daniel Gruno rum...@cord.dk wrote:

 [  ] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because..

+1.

Regards,
Graham
--



Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Nick Kew

On 25 Jan 2013, at 13:21, Daniel Gruno wrote:

 [  ] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...

-1 as stated.  +1 in principle.

IMHO it needs a tiny change.  Instead of creating a messy new
DNS entry for modules-archive, it should live under a single
hostname: maybe modules.apache.org/archive/

I can't access modules.humbedooh.com right now, but I'll
take what's there as of secondary importance: it's presumably
intended more as startingpoint than final product.

-- 
Nick Kew


Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Graham Leggett
On 25 Jan 2013, at 22:01, Nick Kew n...@webthing.com wrote:

 -1 as stated.  +1 in principle.
 
 IMHO it needs a tiny change.  Instead of creating a messy new
 DNS entry for modules-archive, it should live under a single
 hostname: maybe modules.apache.org/archive/

Is this practical, or will all the links break?

Regards,
Graham
--



Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 01/25/2013 11:01 PM, Nick Kew wrote:
 
 On 25 Jan 2013, at 13:21, Daniel Gruno wrote:
 
 [  ] +1: I support this proposal
 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...
 
 -1 as stated.  +1 in principle.
 
 IMHO it needs a tiny change.  Instead of creating a messy new
 DNS entry for modules-archive, it should live under a single
 hostname: maybe modules.apache.org/archive/
 
 I can't access modules.humbedooh.com right now, but I'll
 take what's there as of secondary importance: it's presumably
 intended more as startingpoint than final product.
 
If people do not object to this, I believe we can accommodate your wish
to put it under /archive instead without having to resort to a new vote.
Anyone who's opposed to Nick's suggestion, please state so, or I will
assume that we can continue the voting with this addendum.

Apologies for the test site not being available at the time, it has been
fixed now.

And yes, it's a starting point. The whole point of this vote is to get
_started_ on moving away from something that is utterly dysfunctional,
and towards something that works and is simpler to manage. Once the
voting is done, assuming no one starts throwing vetoes about, I will
start a new thread, calling for ideas and suggestions on how to improve
the new site, and as I've stated earlier, I am looking for anyone who
would like to contribute to maintaining and improving the site. As it
stands, we have Rich, Gavin, Jan from Infrastructure (I hope/think) and
myself doing moderation and reviewing the processes, but we'd like more
to join.

With regards,
Daniel.


Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Nick Kew

On 25 Jan 2013, at 22:13, Graham Leggett wrote:

 Is this practical, or will all the links break?

Fair question.  I guess the answer is try-it-and-see.
Is the site populated with dynamically-generated links
relative to its own root / ?  Static links should be trivial
to run through a one-off search-and-replace.

If it turns out to lead to brokenness that can't easily be fixed
then I'll withdraw my objection to a DNS solution.

-- 
Nick Kew


RE: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Gavin McDonald


 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Gruno [mailto:rum...@cord.dk]
 Sent: Friday, 25 January 2013 11:52 PM
 To: dev@httpd.apache.org
 Subject: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org
 
 So, this is when we get to vote on things!
 I am satisfied that the new site is working as intended, and that new
 requests for features can be integrated and reviewed, as the site is
publicly
 available in svn (in the infrastructure repository).
 
 Now, the vote deals with a lot of things, so I'd like you to read the
proposal
 carefully.
 
 
 Proposal
 
 1) Move the current modules.apache.org to modules-archive.apache.org
 2) Create a link on both modules.apache.org and modules-
 archive.apache.org linking to each other.
 3) Replace modules.apache.org with the new modules site, currently
 available at http://modules.humbedooh.com and also available in svn for
 review.
 4) Start afresh with a new, empty database on modules.apache.org and have
 modules-archive.apache.org retain the old database.
 5) Contact all authors who have created or modified a module on the site
 within the last 2 years (this is 59 authors), and inform them of the new
site,
 encouraging them to resubmit their modules.
 6) Allow modules.apache.org to fetch DOAP files for projects, placed
 anywhere on the Internet, thus acting as an aggregator of publicly
available
 information.
 
 
 
 Vote
 
 

 [X] +1: I support this proposal (non-binding)

Gav...


 [  ]  0: I don't care
 [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...
 
 This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours, thus ending, at
earliest, on
 Monday, January 28th, 13:20 GMT.
 Standard majority consensus applies, as it has with all other web site
 changes.
 
 With regards,
 Daniel.



RE: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Gavin McDonald


 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Gruno [mailto:rum...@cord.dk]
 Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2013 8:54 AM
 To: dev@httpd.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org
 
 On 01/25/2013 11:01 PM, Nick Kew wrote:
 
  On 25 Jan 2013, at 13:21, Daniel Gruno wrote:
 
  [  ] +1: I support this proposal
  [  ]  0: I don't care
  [  ] -1: I don't support this proposal, because...
 
  -1 as stated.  +1 in principle.
 
  IMHO it needs a tiny change.  Instead of creating a messy new DNS
  entry for modules-archive, it should live under a single
  hostname: maybe modules.apache.org/archive/
 
  I can't access modules.humbedooh.com right now, but I'll take what's
  there as of secondary importance: it's presumably intended more as
  startingpoint than final product.
 
 If people do not object to this, I believe we can accommodate your wish to
 put it under /archive instead without having to resort to a new vote.
 Anyone who's opposed to Nick's suggestion, please state so, or I will
assume
 that we can continue the voting with this addendum.

I don't mind either way, each has benefits/drawbacks. Each is easy to
implement.

Gav...

 
 Apologies for the test site not being available at the time, it has been
fixed
 now.
 
 And yes, it's a starting point. The whole point of this vote is to get
_started_
 on moving away from something that is utterly dysfunctional, and towards
 something that works and is simpler to manage. Once the voting is done,
 assuming no one starts throwing vetoes about, I will start a new thread,
 calling for ideas and suggestions on how to improve the new site, and as
I've
 stated earlier, I am looking for anyone who would like to contribute to
 maintaining and improving the site. As it stands, we have Rich, Gavin, Jan
 from Infrastructure (I hope/think) and myself doing moderation and
 reviewing the processes, but we'd like more to join.
 
 With regards,
 Daniel.



Re: [Vote] Overhaul modules.apache.org

2013-01-25 Thread Sander Temme

On Jan 25, 2013, at 5:21 AM, Daniel Gruno rum...@cord.dk wrote:

 [  ] +1: I support this proposal

+1

...and whatever you want to do with the old site is fine by me.  

What level of traffic are we seeing on it?  Shouldn't we just make a clean 
break and respond to any URL into the old database with a 410 Gone to encourage 
the search engines to clean themselves up?

S.

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