Re: Is job/contract posting considered spam? [WAS: Re: devs for fire]
>> Guidelines for job and contract posting >> --- >> >> If you are looking for developers to hire please make sure to respect the >> following guidelines: >> >> - The posting needs to be related to Jackrabbit/JCR >> - Ask for off-list replies (in order to keep the noise down) >> - Use a [JOB] marker within the subject line >> >> >> WDYT? +1 Esteban Franqueiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please immediately return this by email and then delete it.
Re: Is job/contract posting considered spam? [WAS: Re: devs for fire]
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Michael Wechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> ...I don't see anything wrong with job offers as long as they are related >>> to JCR and Jackrabbit and not too frequent. >>> Especially when the company behind the offer participates in the >>> community... >>> >> >> I was going to say that "in the good old Cocoon days", we used to >> allow occasional job postings with similar criteria than you suggest, >> *and* with a [JOB] marker in the subject line, *and* requiring >> off-list replies to keep the noise low. >> > > makes sense to me > > I would suggest the following addendum to > http://jackrabbit.apache.org/mailing-lists.html > > Guidelines for job and contract posting > --- > > If you are looking for developers to hire please make sure to respect the > following guidelines: > > - The posting needs to be related to Jackrabbit/JCR > - Ask for off-list replies (in order to keep the noise down) > - Use a [JOB] marker within the subject line > > > WDYT? -0.5 i'd prefer to keep the dev list focused. in case i am the only one being bothered i'll make it a -0. cheers stefan > > Cheers > > Michael > >> -Bertrand (from the peanuts gallery - I'm not a committer here) >> > > > -- > Michael Wechner > Wyona - Open Source Content Management - Yanel, Yulup > http://www.wyona.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > +41 44 272 91 61 > >
Re: Is job/contract posting considered spam? [WAS: Re: devs for fire]
Alexander Klimetschek wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Michael Wechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would suggest the following addendum to http://jackrabbit.apache.org/mailing-lists.html Guidelines for job and contract posting --- If you are looking for developers to hire please make sure to respect the following guidelines: - The posting needs to be related to Jackrabbit/JCR - Ask for off-list replies (in order to keep the noise down) - Use a [JOB] marker within the subject line WDYT? +1 Sounds good to me. Do we need a formal vote for that? If yes, we should start a separate thread. -1 Let's not over-engineer. BR, Julian
Re: Is job/contract posting considered spam? [WAS: Re: devs for fire]
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Michael Wechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would suggest the following addendum to > http://jackrabbit.apache.org/mailing-lists.html > > Guidelines for job and contract posting > --- > > If you are looking for developers to hire please make sure to respect the > following guidelines: > > - The posting needs to be related to Jackrabbit/JCR > - Ask for off-list replies (in order to keep the noise down) > - Use a [JOB] marker within the subject line > > > WDYT? Sounds good to me. Do we need a formal vote for that? If yes, we should start a separate thread. Regards, Alex -- Alexander Klimetschek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is job/contract posting considered spam? [WAS: Re: devs for fire]
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...I don't see anything wrong with job offers as long as they are related to JCR and Jackrabbit and not too frequent. Especially when the company behind the offer participates in the community... I was going to say that "in the good old Cocoon days", we used to allow occasional job postings with similar criteria than you suggest, *and* with a [JOB] marker in the subject line, *and* requiring off-list replies to keep the noise low. makes sense to me I would suggest the following addendum to http://jackrabbit.apache.org/mailing-lists.html Guidelines for job and contract posting --- If you are looking for developers to hire please make sure to respect the following guidelines: - The posting needs to be related to Jackrabbit/JCR - Ask for off-list replies (in order to keep the noise down) - Use a [JOB] marker within the subject line WDYT? Cheers Michael -Bertrand (from the peanuts gallery - I'm not a committer here) -- Michael Wechner Wyona - Open Source Content Management - Yanel, Yulup http://www.wyona.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +41 44 272 91 61
RE: Is job/contract posting considered spam? [WAS: Re: devs for fire]
> > Ard Schrijvers wrote: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] can be used for these mails Michael > > thanks very much for pointing this out. In fairness I have to admit that this list has a 'Mean posts per day: 0.08' and I think hardly any apache user/committer is subscribed to it (see http://people.apache.org/~coar/mlists.html) -Ard > > Generally speaking I think it would be nice if each ASF > project would provide a dedicated "job/contract posting list" > or "allow" for such postings, because most requests are very > specific and the general list just doesn't work out I would say > > http://people.apache.org/~coar/mlists.html > > For instance we are looking for people with > Jackrabbit/JCR/Java experience and I guess everyone agrees > that the Jackrabbit mailing lists are the best place for > this. As said I am sorry if I might have violated some rule > of the jackrabbit community and I am happy to accept if the > Jackrabbit community doesn't want this, but nevertheless I > would be interested to hear why this is considered to be bad? > > Cheers > > Michael > > >-Ard > > > > > > > >>michael, > >>please *don't* spam the dev list... > >> > >>thanks > >>stefan > >> > >>On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Michael Wechner > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Dear All > >>> > >>>Wyona is looking for developers for hire (either as > >>> > >>> > >>salaried employee > >> > >> > >>>or > >>>contract) for its Swiss office in Zurich. Some more > >>> > >>> > >>information can be > >> > >> > >>>found at > >>> > >>>http://www.wyona.com/jobs.html > >>> > >>>Wyona is dedicated to Open Source and still believes in > making ends > >>>meet :-) . Zurich/Switzerland is a great place for mountain biking > >>>(and other out/indoor activities) and in December you will > >>> > >>> > >>be invited > >> > >> > >>>to watch the new James Bond movie :-) > >>> > >>>Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or myself off this list. > >>> > >>>Cheers > >>> > >>>Michael > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Michael Wechner > >>>Wyona - Open Source Content Management - Yanel, Yulup > >>>http://www.wyona.com > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>+41 44 272 91 61 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > -- > Michael Wechner > Wyona - Open Source Content Management -Apache Lenya > http://www.wyona.com http://lenya.apache.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] > +41 44 272 91 61 > >
Re: Is job/contract posting considered spam? [WAS: Re: devs for fire]
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...I don't see anything wrong with job offers as long as they are related > to JCR and Jackrabbit and not too frequent. > Especially when the company behind the offer participates in the community... I was going to say that "in the good old Cocoon days", we used to allow occasional job postings with similar criteria than you suggest, *and* with a [JOB] marker in the subject line, *and* requiring off-list replies to keep the noise low. -Bertrand (from the peanuts gallery - I'm not a committer here)
Re: Is job/contract posting considered spam? [WAS: Re: devs for fire]
Hi, On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Michael Wechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For instance we are looking for people with Jackrabbit/JCR/Java experience > and I guess everyone agrees that the Jackrabbit mailing lists are the best > place for this. As said I am sorry if I might have violated some rule of the > jackrabbit community and I am happy to accept if the Jackrabbit community > doesn't want this, but nevertheless I would be interested to hear why this > is considered to be bad? I don't see anything wrong with job offers as long as they are related to JCR and Jackrabbit and not too frequent. Especially when the company behind the offer participates in the community (i.e. I don't want to see nameless head hunters roaming around here). That said, I understand if people prefer not to have job offers on this list and won't object to a policy to ban them. My employer Day has been hired a number of people in and around the Jackrabbit community (me included), but those job offers have all been made in private based on contacts made on this list and elsewhere. If there's interest, we could perhaps create a LinkedIn group or some similar tool for making it easier for companies to identify and contact the JCR experts in this community who might be interested in new job opportunities. BR, Jukka Zitting
