Re: Kafka TLP website move

2012-12-10 Thread Joe Schaefer


You need to tell us HOW to create it,
either as a CMS site or using svnpubsub!




 From: Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com
To: infrastruct...@apache.org infrastruct...@apache.org 
Cc: dev@kafka.apache.org 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Kafka TLP website move
 

Ooops, wrong ticket:
  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5586

:-)

-Jay




On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey guys,

It's been a few weeks and we are still waiting on getting a top-level website 
url for Kafka. Tried just making it myself, but that didn't work:
  jkreps@minotaur:/www$ mkdir kafka.apache.org
  mkdir: kafka.apache.org: Permission denied

Are we confused? Can anyone help?

Here is the ticket:
  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-654

Thanks!

-Jay





Re: Kafka TLP website move

2012-12-10 Thread Jay Kreps
Cool, makes sense. Let's go with SVN and svnpubsub then. The site
subdirectory that we would published is
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/kafka/site

In the future if we switch to git we will just leave the site in svn and
continue to use that for site updates.

-Jay


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have an SVN repo for the web site and a git repo for code.


 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am confused. The CMS documentation says this:
 * *

 *Instead of developing versioning support and a notification scheme into
 a database driven CMS, Apache's subversion 
 infrastructurehttp://svn.apache.org/was chosen as the central data store 
 for everything. The fact that the web
 interface to the CMS interacts with the subversion repository in a LAN
 environment, combined with the lightning-fast SSDs that serve as l2arc
 cache for the underlying FreeBSD ZFS filesystem, eliminates virtually all
 subversion network/disk latency. Subversion continues to scale past 1M
 commits to deliver high performance to Apache developers, as well as to our
 internal programs that rely on it.*
 How do the ASF's git projects maintain their websites if both website
 options require SVN? Should we just have a separate repository for the site
 that is in SVN (currently they are in the same repository)? Basically the
 project voted to move to git, so I don't want to make any choices that
 block that.

 -Jay


 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:

 No, you may not stick with a manual process. If the
 CMS doesn't suit you (there is no requirement to use
 markdown- other cms sites use html), you must use
 svnpubsub.  There is no gitpubsub and there are no
 plans to write one.


   --
 *From:* Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com
  *To:* Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2012 12:50 PM

 *Subject:* Re: Kafka TLP website move

 The CMS sounds like it requires some kind of markdown format. Our site
 is in HTML, so that won't work.

 svnpubsub sounds like it requires svn. We are trying to move to git, so
 that probably isn't good either.

 Is it possible to stick with the manual update process we had for the
 incubator site?

 Thanks!

 -Jay

 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:

 MS site or using svnpubsub









Re: Kafka TLP website move

2012-12-10 Thread Ted Dunning
Our experience with CMS has been good, btw.  Consider as an option.  You
get a very simple mark-down based web site with browser editing if you like
it.  Works very well.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cool, makes sense. Let's go with SVN and svnpubsub then. The site
 subdirectory that we would published is
   https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/kafka/site

 In the future if we switch to git we will just leave the site in svn and
 continue to use that for site updates.

 -Jay


 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.comwrote:

 We have an SVN repo for the web site and a git repo for code.


 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am confused. The CMS documentation says this:
 * *

 *Instead of developing versioning support and a notification scheme
 into a database driven CMS, Apache's subversion 
 infrastructurehttp://svn.apache.org/was chosen as the central data store 
 for everything. The fact that the web
 interface to the CMS interacts with the subversion repository in a LAN
 environment, combined with the lightning-fast SSDs that serve as l2arc
 cache for the underlying FreeBSD ZFS filesystem, eliminates virtually all
 subversion network/disk latency. Subversion continues to scale past 1M
 commits to deliver high performance to Apache developers, as well as to our
 internal programs that rely on it.*
 How do the ASF's git projects maintain their websites if both website
 options require SVN? Should we just have a separate repository for the site
 that is in SVN (currently they are in the same repository)? Basically the
 project voted to move to git, so I don't want to make any choices that
 block that.

 -Jay


 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:

 No, you may not stick with a manual process. If the
 CMS doesn't suit you (there is no requirement to use
 markdown- other cms sites use html), you must use
 svnpubsub.  There is no gitpubsub and there are no
 plans to write one.


   --
 *From:* Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com
  *To:* Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2012 12:50 PM

 *Subject:* Re: Kafka TLP website move

 The CMS sounds like it requires some kind of markdown format. Our site
 is in HTML, so that won't work.

 svnpubsub sounds like it requires svn. We are trying to move to git, so
 that probably isn't good either.

 Is it possible to stick with the manual update process we had for the
 incubator site?

 Thanks!

 -Jay

 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Joe Schaefer 
 joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:

 MS site or using svnpubsub