Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-20 Thread Freemor
Hi,

  I've been trying to update my 1041.yml on hackers.git but as yet I am unable
to access the repo via git clone ssh and thus can't push the changes,

  So Either I'm using the wrong syntax for the URI or my keys are not added
yet. I'm sending this to make sure that #1 is not the case. I've been trying to
clone hackers.git via: 

git clone ssh://g...@git.parabola.nu:1863/~git/hackers.git

 It tries but fails with a permission denied error. By making git use ssh -v as
the ssh command I can see that:

- it connects to the server
- it offers the correct key
- the key gets refused
- the connection closes out with permission denied

So I'm wondering if the user/server/folder are all correct? If me using a non
RSA key caused an issue? Or if I just need to be patient (which isn't a
problem).

Regards,
Freemor


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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-19 Thread Freemor
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 11:51:46PM -0400, bill-auger wrote:
> Freemor -
> 
> i actually already setup that ID card for you - you are hither-to-forth known
> as "Hacker #41" - i left all of the 'extra' fields empty for now - we just
> need to get your SSH key on the servers next - i figured you could fill out
> or delete the empty 'extra' data yourself and push it back to the server as a
> trial run to make sure you are setup properly - that git push will initiate
> the keyring rebuild and other magical things

Thanks! pulled, modified, but can't push yet.. Guess my key isn't populated
yet. I'll try again a bit later.
 
> i also gave you escalated privilege on the redmine site so you can assign and
> close issues

Also thanks. I'm off to see what that looks like.




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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-18 Thread bill-auger
Freemor -

i actually already setup that ID card for you - you are hither-to-forth known 
as "Hacker #41" - i left all of the 'extra' fields empty for now - we just need 
to get your SSH key on the servers next - i figured you could fill out or 
delete the empty 'extra' data yourself and push it back to the server as a 
trial run to make sure you are setup properly - that git push will initiate the 
keyring rebuild and other magical things

you can put "packager" for 'roles' of you want - you can change this 'extra' 
data at any time

i also gave you escalated privilege on the redmine site so you can assign and 
close issues


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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-18 Thread Brett Gilio



Freemor writes:

Thanks for the warm welcome :) Glad to be aboard.


Freemor,

From a non-dev, I wish you the best in your contributions and I 

thank
you for your present and future contributions to this terrific 
project.


Congrats!


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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-18 Thread Freemor
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 06:41:36PM -0400, Luke Shumaker wrote:
>  - The email ident for the SSH keys needs to be freemor@something, but
>the "something" is purely informative for keeping track of multiple
>keys, it doesn't need to be a real hostname.

Realized I missed including that bit.. just make it free...@freemor.ca



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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-18 Thread Freemor
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 06:41:36PM -0400, Luke Shumaker wrote:
> Hi Freemor,
> 
> Could you submit to us the full information for your hackers.git
> profile?  You can look at mine as an example
> https://git.parabola.nu/hackers.git/tree/users/1015.yml Don't worry
> about formatting it correctly.
> 

username: freemor
fullname: Freemor   #Only banks and .gov's use my legal name but if 
you need it I can provide.
email: 
- free...@freemor.ca
groups:
- hackers
pgp_keyid: 17446CB76E250EE809DFE1F2A7DC2FC7EBC8F713
ssh_keys: 
  
ssh-ed25519C3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5IHuX5stLFkx33WSQ2mPLhhp6rv+cJOlY1IFUxIuMEzFs
shell: "/bin/bash"
extra:
 other_contact: 'irc freenode: freemor'
'xmpp: free...@home.zom.im'
'ring: b8d73e82bd7be3cc01c7781900c3ba58d687314a'
'tox:  
8D4973925FB8C27ABDC916C30344CF493EA7CA7854D2A801B85F3E8B3820A25FEF4BF65109A3'
 website: http://freemor.ca
 roles: TBD, but probably a little of everything
 yob: 1965
 location: NB, Canada
 interests: free software, free culture, open hardware, SBC hacking
 languages: English



> Welcome aboard :)


Thanks for the warm welcome :) Glad to be aboard.


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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-18 Thread Luke Shumaker
Hi Freemor,

Could you submit to us the full information for your hackers.git
profile?  You can look at mine as an example
https://git.parabola.nu/hackers.git/tree/users/1015.yml Don't worry
about formatting it correctly.

Some notes:

 - The first email listed will be publicly shown on www.parabola.nu
 - free...@parabola.nu will forward to the first n...@parabola.nu
   email listed
 - Just put yourself in the "hackers" group
 - The email ident for the SSH keys needs to be freemor@something, but
   the "something" is purely informative for keeping track of multiple
   keys, it doesn't need to be a real hostname.

Welcome aboard :)

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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-18 Thread Brett Gilio



Luke Shumaker writes:


On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 19:48:52 -0400,
Brett Gilio wrote:


On 07/12/2018 04:24 PM, bill-auger wrote:

>  i still think this is a bug or a missing feature IMHO - if
> the keyring package were regenerated automatically each day, 
> then no one
> would (ever?) need to refresh the keyring manually; pacman 
> -Syu would be

> sufficient

I agree, that is why I have (for better or worse) have came to 
prefer
using pacman-aur helpers what have some capability to 
automagically

handle various types of keys.


It should.  It's not clear why Parabola users need to refresh 
their
keyring periodically besides just running `pacman -Syu`.  Arch 
users

don't normally need to do that.  Parabola's pacman package as a
workaround includes a systemd timer to refresh it periodically, 
but we

really should get to the root of the issue.


Luke, do we have an active bug report on the issue? I wouldn't 
mind
taking a look into it to see if I can diagnose anything. I have a 
few

hours this evening.


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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-18 Thread Luke Shumaker
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 19:48:52 -0400,
Brett Gilio wrote:
> 
> On 07/12/2018 04:24 PM, bill-auger wrote:
> 
> >  i still think this is a bug or a missing feature IMHO - if
> > the keyring package were regenerated automatically each day, then no one
> > would (ever?) need to refresh the keyring manually; pacman -Syu would be
> > sufficient
> 
> I agree, that is why I have (for better or worse) have came to prefer
> using pacman-aur helpers what have some capability to automagically
> handle various types of keys.

It should.  It's not clear why Parabola users need to refresh their
keyring periodically besides just running `pacman -Syu`.  Arch users
don't normally need to do that.  Parabola's pacman package as a
workaround includes a systemd timer to refresh it periodically, but we
really should get to the root of the issue.

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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-18 Thread Andreas Grapentin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 05:06:17PM -0300, Freemor wrote:
> I'm still learning my way around libretools. But I've been makepkg'ing stuff
> from myself for some while so it  shouldn't take too long. I'd really enjoy
> being able to take up some of the load for thing like out-of-date packages or
> those packages that just need a quick rebuild because some lib updates and it
> now needs to be rebuilt against the new ver on the lib. etc. 
> 
> As my skill and confidence improves I'd start branching into packing requests
> etc.


This is precisely how I started. Welcome aboard :)


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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-13 Thread bill-auger
On 07/12/2018 07:48 PM, Brett Gilio wrote:
> I wonder if pacman will ever get around to implementing something of the
> sort, of if the Arch Linux people have some aversion to this.

any proper distro would have an aversion to that - it seems that you are
seeing a distro package manager as a tool to install prepared programs
without needing to compile them by hand - that is missing the key aspect
of package management - a distro package manager is first and foremost a
way to ensure that all of the software you use has been approved and
prepared by a single trusted source (your distro) who actively ensures
that your software works well with the other programs they provide and
does not abuse your system - it is always possible to install software
from other sources using other tools but that is not endorsed by any
distro that i know of; and the reason why should be obvious - they have
no way of knowing what you install or where you got it from - it would
be irresponsible to endorse things you have never seen



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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-12 Thread Brett Gilio

On 07/12/2018 04:24 PM, bill-auger wrote:


 i still think this is a bug or a missing feature IMHO - if
the keyring package were regenerated automatically each day, then no one
would (ever?) need to refresh the keyring manually; pacman -Syu would be
sufficient


I agree, that is why I have (for better or worse) have came to prefer 
using pacman-aur helpers what have some capability to automagically 
handle various types of keys.


I wonder if pacman will ever get around to implementing something of the 
sort, of if the Arch Linux people have some aversion to this.



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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-12 Thread bill-auger
Brett -

the keyring needs to be refreshed only when one of the existing keys has
expired and renewed; but when the keyring package has not been
regenerated - i still think this is a bug or a missing feature IMHO - if
the keyring package were regenerated automatically each day, then no one
would (ever?) need to refresh the keyring manually; pacman -Syu would be
sufficient - when adding new key or removing an existing key, the
keyring package will be regenerated and everyone will get it when next
they pacman -Syu



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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-12 Thread Brett Gilio

Fair enough.

Brett Gilio
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On 07/12/2018 04:19 PM, Isaac David wrote:

Brett Gilio  wrote :
Would this be an appropriate time to refresh my keyring, then? Or 
should I wait?


every time is the right time for refreshing the keyring.


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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-12 Thread Isaac David

Brett Gilio  wrote :
Would this be an appropriate time to refresh my keyring, then? Or 
should I wait?


every time is the right time for refreshing the keyring.

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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-12 Thread Brett Gilio
Would this be an appropriate time to refresh my keyring, then? Or should 
I wait?


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On 07/12/2018 12:56 PM, Freemor wrote:

So I can further join the fun. :)



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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-12 Thread Freemor
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 02:46:27PM -0400, bill-auger wrote:
> Freemor -
> 
> can you write a bit about what your current talents or interests are and
> how they could fit into parabola
> 
> the keys are mainly important for access to the servers, for example - i
> have seen you are very good a tech support and bug trouble-shooting -
> what are you most interested in doing?
> 
> build and publish packages?

I'm still learning my way around libretools. But I've been makepkg'ing stuff
from myself for some while so it  shouldn't take too long. I'd really enjoy
being able to take up some of the load for thing like out-of-date packages or
those packages that just need a quick rebuild because some lib updates and it
now needs to be rebuilt against the new ver on the lib. etc. 

As my skill and confidence improves I'd start branching into packing requests
etc.

> administrate the servers?

I've run my own home server for years so sure

> maintain the websites?

that might be a bit of a learning curve. I do run my own site. but just
lighttpd and flat html. So, I'd need time to get used to whatever lamp/Xamp set
up is there.

> triage bugs?

Yes, as you know I enjoy doing so 

> all of the above?

So yes, but with the caveat that I'll take things on when I'm sure I've got the
skills not to accidentally make a major mess. Honestly I've been using Linux
since the late 90's and computers since the late 70's so the hesitance isn't
from a lack of skill but rather the fact that I've not been this deep at
contributing to a large project like Parabola and so best to tread lightly till
I get the lay of the land.



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Re: [Dev] submitting my SSH key

2018-07-12 Thread bill-auger
Freemor -

can you write a bit about what your current talents or interests are and
how they could fit into parabola

the keys are mainly important for access to the servers, for example - i
have seen you are very good a tech support and bug trouble-shooting -
what are you most interested in doing?

build and publish packages?
administrate the servers?
maintain the websites?
triage bugs?
all of the above?



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