Re: [RCD] Join development of new Roundcube skin
Hi Michiel, On Wednesday 18 January 2017 14:55:48 Michiel Beijen wrote: > which is marked as '8 months ago' which would be May 2016. So do you > have a link for this other message from October? https://roundcubenext.com/topic/24/time-for-an-apology All backers should have received an invite for that and been told that this is where communication will take place from now on. Driving traffic to Indiegogo has not really been a priority for us given their performance during the campaign, including outages and other problems, as well as the costs associated (see https://blogs.fsfe.org/greve/?p=695 for more information). > Of course I can wait for the stickers :D I was just a little > disappointed in the lack of updates; All of us are disappointed, but things happen, including personal and health problems which have affected key team members over the past weeks and months. Fortunately Roundcube Next was started with ample time reserves before current Roundcube would become obsolete. Plus we've continued to work on things that will benefit Roundcube Next development as well -- including Kube and now Alec's initiative to start working on a responsive skin. So things are moving and there are ways to increase velocity. But that needs some sensible planning. But the success of Kolab has created its own challenges. We really need more hands on deck, for one. Managing that change, while planning more than just Roundcube Next, is a good amount of work. And protecting management time from interruptions is not always possible. But the updates to the technical roadmap of Kolab - Roundcube Next included - are in the works right now, and I would expect us to have visible results (so not just plans) this year. But the actual planning of the roadmap I have to leave to our CTO, so until he's done with that, I cannot say much more. Best regards, Georg -- Georg C. F. Greve Chief Executive Officer Kolab Systems AGKolab Enterprise Zürich, SwitzerlandCollaborate in Confidence e: gr...@kolabsystems.com t: +41 78 904 43 33 w: http://kolabsystems.com pgp: B358917A Georg C. F. Greve signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Roundcube Development discussion mailing list dev@lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [RCD] Join development of new Roundcube skin
Hi Aleksander, On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 3:02 PM, A.L.E.Cwrote: > > I'm not involved in rc-next and I'm going to work on this skin in my > free-time. So, this will not interfere (or slow down) rc-next in any > way. Note that we're talking about a new skin only. rc-next was supposed > to be a complete rewrite of everything. I know Kolab Systems (who was > the crowdfunding campain "owner") has some problems, but I also know > that the project didn't die and there's a plan to get back to it with > even more human-resources, hopefully soon. I'm sure that the new skin > effort if successful can also help rc-next. Thanks! I was not really sure who the 'we' was you spoke about. I'm absolutely sure a responsive skin would be very helpful for Roundcube, and it might be also helpful for RC Next. Great initiative, I hope you can find some nice people to work with you and that you'll be able to make good progress! -- Michiel ___ Roundcube Development discussion mailing list dev@lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [RCD] Join development of new Roundcube skin
Hi Georg, On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Georg Grevewrote: > I assume you saw the message that Thomas posted to the backers on the forums > in October last year? End of year and beginning of new year are always > exceptionally busy times, but past FOSDEM we'll be able to look at > this with fresh eyes to put a new team on this. No, I did not see this, i only saw his update on the Indiegogo page here: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/roundcube-next--2#/updates which is marked as '8 months ago' which would be May 2016. So do you have a link for this other message from October? > It will happen, and if you really can't wait for your stickers in the > meantime, we'd be happy to provide them - we just felt it made more sense > to do that together with some more concrete news. Of course I can wait for the stickers :D I was just a little disappointed in the lack of updates; since funding was reached in summer 2015 there have been only 2 updates on the indiegogo page. Plus there seem to me more people disappointed there, if I read the comments section: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/roundcube-next--2#/comments Kindest regards, and looking forward for more updates on Roundcube Next in the upcoming period, -- Michiel ___ Roundcube Development discussion mailing list dev@lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [RCD] Join development of new Roundcube skin
On 01/16/2017 02:38 PM, Michiel Beijen wrote: > So you starting a responsive skin, is this a separate effort from a > Roundcube Next, which might not materialize? I'm not involved in rc-next and I'm going to work on this skin in my free-time. So, this will not interfere (or slow down) rc-next in any way. Note that we're talking about a new skin only. rc-next was supposed to be a complete rewrite of everything. I know Kolab Systems (who was the crowdfunding campain "owner") has some problems, but I also know that the project didn't die and there's a plan to get back to it with even more human-resources, hopefully soon. I'm sure that the new skin effort if successful can also help rc-next. -- Aleksander 'A.L.E.C' Machniak Kolab Groupware Developer [http://kolab.org] Roundcube Webmail Developer [http://roundcube.net] PGP: 19359DC1 # Blog: https://kolabian.wordpress.com ___ Roundcube Development discussion mailing list dev@lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [RCD] Join development of new Roundcube skin
Hi Alec, On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:21 PM, A.L.E.Cwrote: > I started working on a new responsive skin for Roundcube. Any help > appreciated. Especially we lack graphics and design experts, but there > will be also a lot of copy/paste/cleanup and other simple tasks. > > https://github.com/roundcube/elastic While this is great news, I'm very interested to hear what happened to Roundcube Next, which was supposed to be the responsive skin for Roundcube. There was a crowdfunding at https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/roundcube-next--2 and I backed it. It was funded and over 100,000 USD was raised. The last project update at https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/roundcube-next--2#/updates was already 8 months ago which still promised to deliver. I understand that you might or might not be involved, and that having this crowdfunding campaign might have actually delayed the realization of a mobile skin. So you starting a responsive skin, is this a separate effort from a Roundcube Next, which might not materialize? I'm glad you started your new effort of course, but I'm a bit disappointed in Roundcube Next. I did not even get the stickers for my laptop :D -- Michiel ___ Roundcube Development discussion mailing list dev@lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev
[RCD] Join development of new Roundcube skin
I started working on a new responsive skin for Roundcube. Any help appreciated. Especially we lack graphics and design experts, but there will be also a lot of copy/paste/cleanup and other simple tasks. There's a separate repository so you can send pull requests and discuss issues/features there. https://github.com/roundcube/elastic -- Aleksander 'A.L.E.C' Machniak Kolab Groupware Developer [http://kolab.org] Roundcube Webmail Developer [http://roundcube.net] PGP: 19359DC1 # Blog: https://kolabian.wordpress.com ___ Roundcube Development discussion mailing list dev@lists.roundcube.net http://lists.roundcube.net/mailman/listinfo/dev