JDK 10: First Release Candidate - JDK 10 b43

2018-02-13 Thread Rory O'Donnell
   Hi Ralph, *JDK 10 build 43 is our first JDK 10 Release Candidate [1]* * JDK 10 Early Access  build 43 is available at : - jdk.java.net/10/ Notable changes since previous email.** *build 43 * * JDK-8194764 - javac incorrectly flags

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Gary Gregory
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:44 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > I found this update that says Oracle has extended the public support of > Java 8 about 4 months past the release of Java 11. > https://www.infoq.com/news/2018/02/Java8SupportJan18 < >

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Ralph Goers
Did you look at any of the links in my email? Java 10 will be released in March. When that happens Java 9 will be unsupported for everyone. You cannot purchase support for it or get security updates. It is dead. The same thing will happen with Java 10 in September when Java 11 is released.

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Ralph Goers
While I agree with your statements regarding Java 7 and 8 I can’t think of why we would ever want to have Java 9 or 10 be the minimum supported version. Would you be comfortable saying that knowing that those versions aren’t supported by Oracle in any way for anyone? Ralph > On Feb 13, 2018,

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Gary Gregory
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > While I agree with your statements regarding Java 7 and 8 I can’t think of > why we would ever want to have Java 9 or 10 be the minimum supported > version. Would you be comfortable saying that knowing that those

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Ralph Goers
Well, here are some things to think about. 1. When Oracle drops support for Java 9 next month does that mean we want to replace it with Java 10 in our toolchain? a. Infra still includes JDK 1.4 in its list of choices so I’m sure they will continue to allow Java 9 to be used. b. I see

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Matt Sicker
On 13 February 2018 at 18:50, Gary Gregory wrote: > I seriously doubt that Oracle will turn down a pile of cash ... > Yeah, me neither. > If we want to say that in the future, we plan on only supporting LTS > releases, sure, we can say that now, but what's the point?

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Gary Gregory
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > Did you look at any of the links in my email? Java 10 will be released in > March. When that happens Java 9 will be unsupported for everyone. You > cannot purchase support for it or get security updates. It is

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Gary Gregory
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > Well, here are some things to think about. > 1. When Oracle drops support for Java 9 next month does that mean we want > to replace it with Java 10 in our toolchain? > a. Infra still includes JDK 1.4 in its

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Matt Sicker
On 13 February 2018 at 22:26, Gary Gregory wrote: > This sounds like Oracle's way of trying to get more money This is literally the only thing they're designed to do. I don't need to link to any of the Larry Ellison memes to get my point across here. > from Java 6/7/8

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Ralph Goers
> On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Ralph Goers > > wrote: > >> Well, here are some things to think about. >> 1. When Oracle drops support for Java 9

Re: Java 7 as well as future JDK support strategy.

2018-02-13 Thread Matt Sicker
Depending on how well we can support ongoing compatibility with multiple versions, we may be able to support two LTS releases concurrently for some time even. This also depends on how well applications support the new multiversion jar feature. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 22:57, Ralph Goers