[jira] [Commented] (SOLR-12894) Solr documention for Java Vendors
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Jan Høydahl commented on SOLR-12894:
With the new 6-month release cadence from Oracle people will need to upgrade
versions every 6 months or alternatively purchase a license from Oracle. While
Oracle Java and other paid options may be the goto choice for some, I think
most users are better off if all our docs and examples uses the
[adoptopenjdk.net|https://adoptopenjdk.net/] distribution and links to it.
The AdoptOpenJDK releases are probably the closes thing to what people are used
to from Oracle already, getting security and bug fixes at regular intervals.
You will get that 100% open source and free from AdoptOpenJDK. We can of course
also mention the other JREs that we regularly run tests for.
> Solr documention for Java Vendors
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> Key: SOLR-12894
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12894
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public)
> Components: documentation
>Reporter: Varun Thacker
>Priority: Major
> Attachments: SOLR-12894.patch, SOLR-12894.patch
>
>
> I was asked a question recently - "Is using OpenJDK safe with Solr 7.4" . To
> which my answer was yes . This was after I checked with Steve on which
> OpenJDK version runs on his jenkins
> For refrerence it currently uses -
> {code:java}
> openjdk version "1.8.0_171"
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_171-8u171-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.171-b11, mixed mode){code}
>
> Solr's ref guide (
> [https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/installing-solr.html#got-java|https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/6_6/installing-solr.html#got-java]
> ) mentions using Oracle 1.8 or higher .
>
> We should mention that both Oracle JDKs and Open JDKs are tested. Perhaps
> even have a compatibility matrix
>
> Also we should note that Java 9 and 10 are short term releases . Hence remove
> wording that using Java8+ with more spefic versions.
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Steve Rowe commented on SOLR-12894:
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bq. If we are to reccomend users to use OpenJDK maybe we should have a link so
that users can download them on Windows , Linux and Mac?
https://openjdk.java.net/install/ only has packages for linux .
Binaries for more platforms available here:
https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html
bq. How does this change look?
+1, except maybe update the {{java -version}} output in
{{solr-system-requirements.adoc}} to something more modern? E.g. mine from
this issue's description (though it's from the Debian 8 {{openjdk-8-\*}}
packages, so not the most recent).
> Solr documention for Java Vendors
> -
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> Key: SOLR-12894
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12894
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public)
> Components: documentation
>Reporter: Varun Thacker
>Priority: Major
> Attachments: SOLR-12894.patch, SOLR-12894.patch
>
>
> I was asked a question recently - "Is using OpenJDK safe with Solr 7.4" . To
> which my answer was yes . This was after I checked with Steve on which
> OpenJDK version runs on his jenkins
> For refrerence it currently uses -
> {code:java}
> openjdk version "1.8.0_171"
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_171-8u171-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.171-b11, mixed mode){code}
>
> Solr's ref guide (
> [https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/installing-solr.html#got-java|https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/6_6/installing-solr.html#got-java]
> ) mentions using Oracle 1.8 or higher .
>
> We should mention that both Oracle JDKs and Open JDKs are tested. Perhaps
> even have a compatibility matrix
>
> Also we should note that Java 9 and 10 are short term releases . Hence remove
> wording that using Java8+ with more spefic versions.
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Varun Thacker commented on SOLR-12894:
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How does this change look?
> Solr documention for Java Vendors
> -
>
> Key: SOLR-12894
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12894
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public)
> Components: documentation
>Reporter: Varun Thacker
>Priority: Major
> Attachments: SOLR-12894.patch
>
>
> I was asked a question recently - "Is using OpenJDK safe with Solr 7.4" . To
> which my answer was yes . This was after I checked with Steve on which
> OpenJDK version runs on his jenkins
> For refrerence it currently uses -
> {code:java}
> openjdk version "1.8.0_171"
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_171-8u171-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.171-b11, mixed mode){code}
>
> Solr's ref guide (
> [https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/installing-solr.html#got-java|https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/6_6/installing-solr.html#got-java]
> ) mentions using Oracle 1.8 or higher .
>
> We should mention that both Oracle JDKs and Open JDKs are tested. Perhaps
> even have a compatibility matrix
>
> Also we should note that Java 9 and 10 are short term releases . Hence remove
> wording that using Java8+ with more spefic versions.
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Shawn Heisey commented on SOLR-12894:
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bq. we shouldn't be in the business of recommending one over the other. All we
should say is both OpenJDK and Oracle JDK are well tested and both work fine.
Sounds good. Add something like "You'll want to be sure that the license for
the Java version you choose will meet your needs" ... to be re-worded as
necessary so it flows well. So we draw attention to licensing without an
explicit recommendation.
> Solr documention for Java Vendors
> -
>
> Key: SOLR-12894
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12894
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public)
> Components: documentation
>Reporter: Varun Thacker
>Priority: Major
>
> I was asked a question recently - "Is using OpenJDK safe with Solr 7.4" . To
> which my answer was yes . This was after I checked with Steve on which
> OpenJDK version runs on his jenkins
> For refrerence it currently uses -
> {code:java}
> openjdk version "1.8.0_171"
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_171-8u171-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.171-b11, mixed mode){code}
>
> Solr's ref guide (
> [https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/installing-solr.html#got-java|https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/6_6/installing-solr.html#got-java]
> ) mentions using Oracle 1.8 or higher .
>
> We should mention that both Oracle JDKs and Open JDKs are tested. Perhaps
> even have a compatibility matrix
>
> Also we should note that Java 9 and 10 are short term releases . Hence remove
> wording that using Java8+ with more spefic versions.
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Varun Thacker commented on SOLR-12894:
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So turns out that
[https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/6_6/installing-solr.html#got-java] was
updated at some point and today we have
[https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/7_5/solr-system-requirements.html]
If we are to reccomend users to use OpenJDK maybe we should have a link so that
users can download them on Windows , Linux and Mac?
[https://openjdk.java.net/install/] only has packages for linux .
The other way to look at it is , we shouldn't be in the business of
recommending one over the other. All we should say is both OpenJDK and Oracle
JDK are well tested and both work fine. Users can make their choice based on
that information.
> Solr documention for Java Vendors
> -
>
> Key: SOLR-12894
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12894
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public)
> Components: documentation
>Reporter: Varun Thacker
>Priority: Major
>
> I was asked a question recently - "Is using OpenJDK safe with Solr 7.4" . To
> which my answer was yes . This was after I checked with Steve on which
> OpenJDK version runs on his jenkins
> For refrerence it currently uses -
> {code:java}
> openjdk version "1.8.0_171"
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_171-8u171-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.171-b11, mixed mode){code}
>
> Solr's ref guide (
> [https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/installing-solr.html#got-java|https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/6_6/installing-solr.html#got-java]
> ) mentions using Oracle 1.8 or higher .
>
> We should mention that both Oracle JDKs and Open JDKs are tested. Perhaps
> even have a compatibility matrix
>
> Also we should note that Java 9 and 10 are short term releases . Hence remove
> wording that using Java8+ with more spefic versions.
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Shawn Heisey commented on SOLR-12894:
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Since Oracle has changed the license with version 11, we should probably start
recommending OpenJDK, while stating that Oracle Java will work.
> Solr documention for Java Vendors
> -
>
> Key: SOLR-12894
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12894
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public)
> Components: documentation
>Reporter: Varun Thacker
>Priority: Major
>
> I was asked a question recently - "Is using OpenJDK safe with Solr 7.4" . To
> which my answer was yes . This was after I checked with Steve on which
> OpenJDK version runs on his jenkins
> For refrerence it currently uses -
> {code:java}
> openjdk version "1.8.0_171"
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_171-8u171-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.171-b11, mixed mode){code}
>
> Solr's ref guide (
> [https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/installing-solr.html#got-java|https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/6_6/installing-solr.html#got-java]
> ) mentions using Oracle 1.8 or higher .
>
> We should mention that both Oracle JDKs and Open JDKs are tested. Perhaps
> even have a compatibility matrix
>
> Also we should note that Java 9 and 10 are short term releases . Hence remove
> wording that using Java8+ with more spefic versions.
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Varun Thacker commented on SOLR-12894:
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Files we'd need to change :
* SYSTEM_REQUIREMENTS.mdtext
* solr-system-requirements.adoc
> Solr documention for Java Vendors
> -
>
> Key: SOLR-12894
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12894
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public)
> Components: documentation
>Reporter: Varun Thacker
>Priority: Major
>
> I was asked a question recently - "Is using OpenJDK safe with Solr 7.4" . To
> which my answer was yes . This was after I checked with Steve on which
> OpenJDK version runs on his jenkins
> For refrerence it currently uses -
> {code:java}
> openjdk version "1.8.0_171"
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_171-8u171-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.171-b11, mixed mode){code}
>
> Solr's ref guide (
> [https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/installing-solr.html#got-java|https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/6_6/installing-solr.html#got-java]
> ) mentions using Oracle 1.8 or higher .
>
> We should mention that both Oracle JDKs and Open JDKs are tested. Perhaps
> even have a compatibility matrix
>
> Also we should note that Java 9 and 10 are short term releases . Hence remove
> wording that using Java8+ with more spefic versions.
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