Re: Modify the Super Pom from Plugin

2007-09-19 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 18 Sep 07, at 12:11 PM 18 Sep 07, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:


Hi guys,

  Is it possible within a plugin to modify the default settings of  
the Super

Pom (default directories, ..) ?
  Any idea ?



No, and why would you want to do that? The Super POM is immutable for  
all intents and purposes. You should just override at the  
organizational level or in a project POM if you want to do something  
different.




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Re: Modify the Super Pom from Plugin

2007-09-19 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
Hi Jason,

  I was quite sure to have this reply and this is normal.
  I explain my problem.
  A Grails project has actually its own directories layout that isn't at all
compatible with maven standards (and it sucks a little bit).
  It's something like that :

%PROJECT_HOME%
+ grails-app
   + conf --- location of configuration artifacts
like data sources
   + hibernate  --- optional hibernate config
   + spring --- optional spring config
   + controllers  --- location of controller artifacts
   + domain   --- location of domain classes
   + i18n --- location of message bundles for i18n
   + services --- location of services
   + taglib   --- location of tag libraries
   + util --- location of special utility classes
(e.g., codecs, etc.)
   + views--- location of views
   + layouts  --- location of layouts
   + lib
   + scripts  --- scripts
   + src
   + groovy   --- optional; location for Groovy source files
   (of types other than those in grails-app/*)
   + java --- optional; location for Java source files
   + test --- generated test classes
   + web-app
   + WEB-INF


  As you can see java classes are in src/java, but there's also a lot og
groovy files in grails-app/controller, grails-app/..., src/groovy
  Actually the build mechanism in grails isn't enough opened to be able to
configure it with a maven layout and grails users get used to have this
layout, that's why I try temporarly to adapt maven to grails standards
(waiting to be able to adapt grails to maven ones).
  My integration with maven is actually very thin. I'm using grails scripts
from maven, but I would like if possible in a near future to be able to use
reports and others maven features (release management, ...). All those
plugins are looking in the pom to find where are sources, tests , But I
would like to avoid to define all those custom settings in each project's
pom. It could be better to have the plugin to do it for the project.
  Temporarly I think I'll try to add sources / tests directories like it is
done in the build-helper plugin. I don't see another idea. If you have one
. ;-)
  Thx.

Arnaud


On 19/09/2007, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 18 Sep 07, at 12:11 PM 18 Sep 07, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

  Hi guys,
 
Is it possible within a plugin to modify the default settings of
  the Super
  Pom (default directories, ..) ?
Any idea ?
 

 No, and why would you want to do that? The Super POM is immutable for
 all intents and purposes. You should just override at the
 organizational level or in a project POM if you want to do something
 different.

 
  Thx
  ..
  Arnaud HERITIER
  ..
  OCTO Technology - aheritier AT octo DOT com
  www.octo.com | blog.octo.com
  ..
  ASF - aheritier AT apache DOT org
  www.apache.org | maven.apache.org
  ...

 Thanks,

 Jason

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RE: Modify the Super Pom from Plugin

2007-09-19 Thread Brian E. Fox
What happens if you modified the super pom and included it an extension?
Which would take precedence?

-Original Message-
From: Arnaud HERITIER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:09 PM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Modify the Super Pom from Plugin

Hi Jason,

  I was quite sure to have this reply and this is normal.
  I explain my problem.
  A Grails project has actually its own directories layout that isn't at
all
compatible with maven standards (and it sucks a little bit).
  It's something like that :

%PROJECT_HOME%
+ grails-app
   + conf --- location of configuration artifacts
like data sources
   + hibernate  --- optional hibernate config
   + spring --- optional spring config
   + controllers  --- location of controller artifacts
   + domain   --- location of domain classes
   + i18n --- location of message bundles for i18n
   + services --- location of services
   + taglib   --- location of tag libraries
   + util --- location of special utility classes
(e.g., codecs, etc.)
   + views--- location of views
   + layouts  --- location of layouts
   + lib
   + scripts  --- scripts
   + src
   + groovy   --- optional; location for Groovy source
files
   (of types other than those in
grails-app/*)
   + java --- optional; location for Java source
files
   + test --- generated test classes
   + web-app
   + WEB-INF


  As you can see java classes are in src/java, but there's also a lot og
groovy files in grails-app/controller, grails-app/..., src/groovy
  Actually the build mechanism in grails isn't enough opened to be able
to
configure it with a maven layout and grails users get used to have this
layout, that's why I try temporarly to adapt maven to grails standards
(waiting to be able to adapt grails to maven ones).
  My integration with maven is actually very thin. I'm using grails
scripts
from maven, but I would like if possible in a near future to be able to
use
reports and others maven features (release management, ...). All those
plugins are looking in the pom to find where are sources, tests ,
But I
would like to avoid to define all those custom settings in each
project's
pom. It could be better to have the plugin to do it for the project.
  Temporarly I think I'll try to add sources / tests directories like it
is
done in the build-helper plugin. I don't see another idea. If you have
one
. ;-)
  Thx.

Arnaud


On 19/09/2007, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 18 Sep 07, at 12:11 PM 18 Sep 07, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

  Hi guys,
 
Is it possible within a plugin to modify the default settings of
  the Super
  Pom (default directories, ..) ?
Any idea ?
 

 No, and why would you want to do that? The Super POM is immutable for
 all intents and purposes. You should just override at the
 organizational level or in a project POM if you want to do something
 different.

 
  Thx
  ..
  Arnaud HERITIER
  ..
  OCTO Technology - aheritier AT octo DOT com
  www.octo.com | blog.octo.com
  ..
  ASF - aheritier AT apache DOT org
  www.apache.org | maven.apache.org
  ...

 Thanks,

 Jason

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 Founder and PMC Chair, Apache Maven
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Re: Modify the Super Pom from Plugin

2007-09-19 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 19 Sep 07, at 9:09 AM 19 Sep 07, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:


Hi Jason,



Just make your archetypes redefine those directories. Or deploy a  
parent for all your maven-based grails projects that inherit from a  
POM with all the overrides. Changing the super POM is a bad, bad,  
bad, bad idea.



  I was quite sure to have this reply and this is normal.
  I explain my problem.
  A Grails project has actually its own directories layout that  
isn't at all

compatible with maven standards (and it sucks a little bit).
  It's something like that :

%PROJECT_HOME%
+ grails-app
   + conf --- location of configuration artifacts
like data sources
   + hibernate  --- optional hibernate config
   + spring --- optional spring config
   + controllers  --- location of controller artifacts
   + domain   --- location of domain classes
   + i18n --- location of message bundles for  
i18n

   + services --- location of services
   + taglib   --- location of tag libraries
   + util --- location of special utility classes
(e.g., codecs, etc.)
   + views--- location of views
   + layouts  --- location of layouts
   + lib
   + scripts  --- scripts
   + src
   + groovy   --- optional; location for Groovy  
source files
   (of types other than those in  
grails-app/*)
   + java --- optional; location for Java  
source files

   + test --- generated test classes
   + web-app
   + WEB-INF


  As you can see java classes are in src/java, but there's also a  
lot og

groovy files in grails-app/controller, grails-app/..., src/groovy
  Actually the build mechanism in grails isn't enough opened to be  
able to
configure it with a maven layout and grails users get used to have  
this

layout, that's why I try temporarly to adapt maven to grails standards
(waiting to be able to adapt grails to maven ones).
  My integration with maven is actually very thin. I'm using grails  
scripts
from maven, but I would like if possible in a near future to be  
able to use

reports and others maven features (release management, ...). All those
plugins are looking in the pom to find where are sources,  
tests , But I
would like to avoid to define all those custom settings in each  
project's

pom. It could be better to have the plugin to do it for the project.
  Temporarly I think I'll try to add sources / tests directories  
like it is
done in the build-helper plugin. I don't see another idea. If you  
have one

. ;-)
  Thx.

Arnaud


On 19/09/2007, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 18 Sep 07, at 12:11 PM 18 Sep 07, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:


Hi guys,

  Is it possible within a plugin to modify the default settings of
the Super
Pom (default directories, ..) ?
  Any idea ?



No, and why would you want to do that? The Super POM is immutable for
all intents and purposes. You should just override at the
organizational level or in a project POM if you want to do something
different.



Thx
..
Arnaud HERITIER
..
OCTO Technology - aheritier AT octo DOT com
www.octo.com | blog.octo.com
..
ASF - aheritier AT apache DOT org
www.apache.org | maven.apache.org
...


Thanks,

Jason

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Re: Modify the Super Pom from Plugin

2007-09-19 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
On 19/09/2007, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 19 Sep 07, at 9:09 AM 19 Sep 07, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

  Hi Jason,
 

 Just make your archetypes redefine those directories. Or deploy a
 parent for all your maven-based grails projects that inherit from a
 POM with all the overrides. Changing the super POM is a bad, bad,
 bad, bad idea.


I understand and I'm not in favor to show how to hack maven standards
because it can open a very dangerous door. But on the other side I would
like to be able to show the power of maven. I though to propose a parent pom
but I abandoned it because it can be unusable if you have another
inheritance (in a corp env for example).
Others solutions I see actually are :
- to generate those settings when I create the pom. It's not a real
archetype because grails already offers this sort of services. The dark side
of this, is that users will have a pom a little bit big at the beginning.
But I'll be able to explain that this one will be reduced when grails will
use maven's standards.
- to add a mojo, that I bind in a phase called at the beginning of the
lifecycle to add sources directories.


Arnaud



   I was quite sure to have this reply and this is normal.
I explain my problem.
A Grails project has actually its own directories layout that
  isn't at all
  compatible with maven standards (and it sucks a little bit).
It's something like that :
 
  %PROJECT_HOME%
  + grails-app
 + conf --- location of configuration artifacts
  like data sources
 + hibernate  --- optional hibernate config
 + spring --- optional spring config
 + controllers  --- location of controller artifacts
 + domain   --- location of domain classes
 + i18n --- location of message bundles for
  i18n
 + services --- location of services
 + taglib   --- location of tag libraries
 + util --- location of special utility classes
  (e.g., codecs, etc.)
 + views--- location of views
 + layouts  --- location of layouts
 + lib
 + scripts  --- scripts
 + src
 + groovy   --- optional; location for Groovy
  source files
 (of types other than those in
  grails-app/*)
 + java --- optional; location for Java
  source files
 + test --- generated test classes
 + web-app
 + WEB-INF
 
 
As you can see java classes are in src/java, but there's also a
  lot og
  groovy files in grails-app/controller, grails-app/..., src/groovy
Actually the build mechanism in grails isn't enough opened to be
  able to
  configure it with a maven layout and grails users get used to have
  this
  layout, that's why I try temporarly to adapt maven to grails standards
  (waiting to be able to adapt grails to maven ones).
My integration with maven is actually very thin. I'm using grails
  scripts
  from maven, but I would like if possible in a near future to be
  able to use
  reports and others maven features (release management, ...). All those
  plugins are looking in the pom to find where are sources,
  tests , But I
  would like to avoid to define all those custom settings in each
  project's
  pom. It could be better to have the plugin to do it for the project.
Temporarly I think I'll try to add sources / tests directories
  like it is
  done in the build-helper plugin. I don't see another idea. If you
  have one
  . ;-)
Thx.
 
  Arnaud
 
 
  On 19/09/2007, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On 18 Sep 07, at 12:11 PM 18 Sep 07, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
 
Is it possible within a plugin to modify the default settings of
  the Super
  Pom (default directories, ..) ?
Any idea ?
 
 
  No, and why would you want to do that? The Super POM is immutable for
  all intents and purposes. You should just override at the
  organizational level or in a project POM if you want to do something
  different.
 
 
  Thx
  ..
  Arnaud HERITIER
  ..
  OCTO Technology - aheritier AT octo DOT com
  www.octo.com | blog.octo.com
  ..
  ASF - aheritier AT apache DOT org
  www.apache.org | maven.apache.org
  ...
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jason
 
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