What we need is a slackbot where you can:
- start a discuss thread, that will get sent to email list
- listen to emails ( be on the list ) and post any discuss thread replies
not from slack TO slack
- add tagged comments to discuss thread
the list-slack singularity
On November 12, 2018 at
Spot on Justin, I totally agree. My only nit is that often it's much
easier troubleshooting in Slack as opposed to the mailing lists, so I'm
game to allow some troubleshooting in Slack as long as the issue and
resolution makes it back to the lists. Given that slack message history is
Piling on, +1 to what Justin said.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 12:42 PM Michael Miklavcic <
> I'm also +1 to Justin's points.
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:38 AM Nick Allen wrote:
> > +1 to all your points Justin.
> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:08 AM
I'm also +1 to Justin's points.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:38 AM Nick Allen wrote:
> +1 to all your points Justin.
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:08 AM Justin Leet
> > I wanted to add back onto this thread after putting some more thought
> > it.
> > I like Slack for the
Your suggestion is well received. I think what we're trying to avoid is a
big dump of Slack's stream of consciousness. There is an inherent
organization and required collection of thoughts that comes with the
dev/user list discussions that doesn't occur on Slack. Maybe threads can
help that a bit,
+1 to all your points Justin.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:08 AM Justin Leet wrote:
> I wanted to add back onto this thread after putting some more thought into
> I like Slack for the type of small developer "what's going on here?" type
> discussions. That's the kind of thing I like
I realize that I’m a “new kid” here, but I think you can have your cake and
eat it too…..
If I can create it, find it, or configure it, perhaps the really best way is to
be able to either:
1) dump public slack conversations to the developer thread - arbitrarily
2) dump public slack
I wanted to add back onto this thread after putting some more thought into
I like Slack for the type of small developer "what's going on here?" type
discussions. That's the kind of thing I like being real-time ("Hey, full
dev is acting weird", "What's the basic layout of this stuff?",
Yeah, I'm also surprised by that comment about the mailing list activity.
Our dev/user list discussions are by far more active than they've ever
been. Just have a look at the list of DISCUSS threads that have come up in
the past few months and it's clear that not only participation has
quick clarification, I said "a lot of dev discussion happens on github and
JIRA". I want to make sure I didn't mean to imply that larger decisions
were being made outside of the appropriate place, the dev list.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:08 AM Casey Stella wrote:
> Not for nothing, but at
Not for nothing, but at least according to the last board report that I
submitted, the user@ traffic is up 100% and the dev list traffic is flat as
compared to last quarter. That's not to say that we couldn't stand more
discussion on the lists, but a lot of the dev discussion happens on github
I wouldn’t be so quick to related the slack discussion with perceived
activity on the list.
That is more do to the other things that are bigger issues.
On October 24, 2018 at 07:15:30, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) wrote:
> I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead just
> I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead just because
the mailing list is not so active anymore!
That is exactly my concern.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 2:49 AM Ali Nazemian wrote:
> I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related discussions rather than
> user QA. I guess
I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related discussions rather than
user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to be used for
the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be accessible by
other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most of the other
Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by ponymail
and the major search engines.
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen wrote:
> I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being indexed
> by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine
I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being indexed
by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine and
uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive.
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler wrote:
> According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on
According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF slack
that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is searchable
past 10,000 messages.
On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic (
...From an archival and broader
...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's
something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to link
to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches...
I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the Metron
Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is good from a
community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where required.
>From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's
If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious follow up
question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other
interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, if we
can't have decisions and don't want usage/support?
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM
I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's definitely the
preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you stated (and
also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the other
hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of advantages in
The help given on the Channel is great. It is just much more scalable on
an archived mailing list. Hence the Apache Foundation's preference for
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:27 PM Otto Fowler
> These questions also occurred on the IRC channel. The difference is that
These questions also occurred on the IRC channel. The difference is that
there are more than Jon and I answering now.
On October 22, 2018 at 12:18:08, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) wrote:
It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support questions on
the Slack Channel.
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