Re: [native-lang] Re: Problem with QA tests and release of OOo 3.3.0
Hi Wunna, Am Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:32:55 -0400 schrieb Wunna Ko wunnak...@gmail.com: Anyway, I wish someone @ Oracle can make things clear to the top management and figure things out to work with the community. But people @ Oracle should keep in mind that OpenOffice, Java MySQL are mainly developed by the help of community not by the people they employ. While that might be true to some extend for the Java ecosystem when not limited to the JVM alone, it has never been a reality for OpenOffice.org. Claiming otherwise is severely underestimating the contributions of Sun/Oracle. That does not mean the contributions of the community outside of Oracle have been small -- however, they up till now have never been comparable to the contributions of Oracle. see: http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/6946-A-thought-about-the-recent-development-at-OpenOffice.html and the chart by Michael Meeks linked in it for reference. Best Regards, Bjoern - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
[native-lang] Re: Problem with QA tests and release of OOo 3.3.0
Hi, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote on 2010-10-16 00.49: I am shocked by what I have read in the minutes of the last Community Council. The minutes are there : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council_Log_20101014#Community_Council_Session It is about to force the members of the Community Council which are also member of the Document Foundation, to leave their seat at the Community Council under the pretext of an alleged conflict of interest. to be precisely, it obviously affects not only the members of the Community Council, but everyone who has a representing role in the Community. If I understood it correctly, it also affects Charles, me (being at least temporarily not on duty, cf. my mail from a few days ago), and probably everyone else who speaks in public on behalf of OpenOffice.org. After I temporarily gave up on the role of the Marketing Budget Holder, all the authorizers have been removed by the treasurer as well, although they did not suspend their roles neither permanently nor temporarily: http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=budgetmsgNo=255 Hopefully the chat between Cor and Martin will clarify some things, but looking at the current status, it looks pretty much like a lot of people will not be eligible, so to say, to speak on behalf of OpenOffice.org anymore. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
Re: [native-lang] Re: Problem with QA tests and release of OOo 3.3.0
Hi All, Such an event (not exactly but similarly) was also happened to Mambo when the management fights with the community. Here, in this case, it seems Oracle is not clearly understand how to handle community projects. They shows their lack of understanding on Open Source Community development issues by taking legal action against Google on use of Java at Android. Anyway, I wish someone @ Oracle can make things clear to the top management and figure things out to work with the community. But people @ Oracle should keep in mind that OpenOffice, Java MySQL are mainly developed by the help of community not by the people they employ. I am looking towards a day when LibreOffice OpenOffice can become one and Community Oracle will collaborate for the society. Wunna Ko Ko Project Lead Burmese Lang Project my.openoffice.org On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org wrote: Hi, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote on 2010-10-16 00.49: I am shocked by what I have read in the minutes of the last Community Council. The minutes are there : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council_Log_20101014#Community_Council_Session It is about to force the members of the Community Council which are also member of the Document Foundation, to leave their seat at the Community Council under the pretext of an alleged conflict of interest. to be precisely, it obviously affects not only the members of the Community Council, but everyone who has a representing role in the Community. If I understood it correctly, it also affects Charles, me (being at least temporarily not on duty, cf. my mail from a few days ago), and probably everyone else who speaks in public on behalf of OpenOffice.org. After I temporarily gave up on the role of the Marketing Budget Holder, all the authorizers have been removed by the treasurer as well, although they did not suspend their roles neither permanently nor temporarily: http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=budgetmsgNo=255 Hopefully the chat between Cor and Martin will clarify some things, but looking at the current status, it looks pretty much like a lot of people will not be eligible, so to say, to speak on behalf of OpenOffice.org anymore. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org -- Wunna Ko --- Get Paid To Read Emails. Free To Join Now! http://www.emailcashpro.com/?source=Emailr=onlinestore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
Re: [native-lang] Re: Problem with QA tests and release of OOo 3.3.0
У пет, 15. 10 2010. у 23:32 -0400, Wunna Ko пише: ... lack of understanding on Open Source Community development issues by taking... Do not mix apples and oranges, please. I am looking towards a day when... If you send flame baits like this one, this is unlikely to happen. To Jean-Baptiste Faure, I share your shock reading the minutes. I would like to wait the Tuesday before jumping to the conclusion. Thank you all, Goran - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org