On 10/18/2010 06:50 PM, Christian Lippka wrote:
Hi Charles,
Am 18.10.2010 17:28, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
Le Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:10:44 +0200,
Pavel Janíkpa...@janik.cz a écrit :
On 18.10.2010, at 15:56, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Martin: the community is leaving.
No no. Charles and co left (or leaving, slowly so the damage to the
OOo and the project is bigger...). That's correct. Nothing else.
Community didn't left. Community of OpenOffice.org is still here.
No No No. The community (most of the NLC, not you Pavel, most of the QA
community, probably most of the Marketing volunteers, the independent
developers and non Oracle developers (not you Pavel) are moving to the
Document Foundation. But I accept the term Charles and co, it's
somewhat reducing though :-)
Sorry, but this gets confusing. You are saying you are leaving, but
you say you also stay.
You say you are most of the community (except Oracle and Pavel
obviously) but at
the same time you leave 'the community' no choice because where should
they go
if they do not want to leave with you? Since if they just stay here
they are at the same
position that you are leaving to. Maybe I'm not educated enough in
graph theories but I'm not
sure where you are, where you want to stay and how you can leave
without moving.
Is it that you leave but stay at the same place and expect Oracle and
Pavel to drift
away?
Maybe there are drugs that can help me solve this mystery
no, it's not worth the effort, just put him into ignore mode since he is
only trying to provoke us, to be able to tell the story that we are the
bad guys throwing him out the council.
Instead of following these fruitless threads we should concentrate on
the work we have to do, to address the issues and concerns our community
has, the work and feedback we get is indeed invaluable and we would be
insane if we would not continue to work on this. But I also have respect
of those who decided to go their own way and open alternatives. And most
of community people are in the comfortable situation to continue to
contribute to both projects for a long time before they might be in the
need to decide for one of the branches and let the facts decide. But I
expect from the leader of the LO efforts not to play kindergarten but to
really lead their fork, otherwise they might end in confinement on a
lonely island.
Anyway let me formulate a question, where should the part of the pre
foundation fork
community go that do not like to identify with the foundation? I'm not
talking about Oracle
people here we will do just fine, I'm talking about Pavel and others.
Is it fair from your
side to rob them the name 'OpenOffice.org community' ?
Why are you not wearing your colors, walk and march under the libre
flag, show it proud (as
you do on press releases and events).
+1
Regards,
Christian
Martin
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