Re: JCrete Apache NetBeans session outcomes

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Excellent, understand and agree on all points. Thanks, Gj On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 22:24, John Kostaras wrote: > I guess, I forgot to distribute this. We ran a session about Apache > NetBeans in JCrete and here are the outcomes. > > - NB has very good support for EE and mvn > - Very good

Re: Preview build of 11.2 for Oracle Code One?

2019-09-11 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi, On Wed, 11 Sep 2019, 16:49 Geertjan Wielenga, wrote: > Hi all, especially Neil, > > Could we create a special build at feature freeze named 11.2-preview so > that those of us at Oracle Code One next week won’t simply have a daily > build but something with a semi official name in the ZIP to

James Gosling on NetBeans at ApacheCon today

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, I’d like to highlight the fact that one of our PMC members and committers, none other than James Gosling, did a keynote today at ApacheCon where he praised and thanked the Apache Incubator, and all the infrastructure around it (e.g., our amazing mentors) for our progress in becoming a top

JCrete Apache NetBeans session outcomes

2019-09-11 Thread John Kostaras
I guess, I forgot to distribute this. We ran a session about Apache NetBeans in JCrete and here are the outcomes. - NB has very good support for EE and mvn - Very good support for JS developers in the past (see their changes in the browser); not anymore; VSCode has very good support for JS and NB

Jenkins build seems to fail

2019-09-11 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
The build seems to fail[1]. Can someone have a look at this? Xvfb starting$ /usr/bin/Xvfb -displayfd 2 -fbdir /home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/xvfb-1237-..fbdir343791156881897007 Xvfb stopping ERROR: Cannot find executable from the chosen Ant installation "Ant 1.9.7" Archiving artifacts [1]

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread Sven Reimers
What about community-XML? Seems still to be interesting.. -Sven John Mc schrieb am Mi., 11. Sep. 2019, 17:35: > Thank Geertjan, > > I didn't see the link in your email so missed the reference to JIRA... > Apologies > > Going through the transition items, I spotted T06 - 'Migration of Wiki (or

Re: Preview build of 11.2 for Oracle Code One?

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
When you’re ready, i.e., Monday is really simply perfect, you can make this happen. :-) Gj On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 21:19, Neil C Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019, 16:49 Geertjan Wielenga, wrote: > > > Hi all, especially Neil, > > > > Could we create a special build at feature freeze

updating the interface for a module or java file..

2019-09-11 Thread Brad Walker
Let's say that I've cleaned up all references to a deprecated method. Now I want to remove the deprecated method since no one is using it. Don't I have to update the interface definition? And if so, how does one go about doing this? Thanks. -brad w.

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
See the initial post here about the 4th donation re the dark look and feel. Gj On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 05:13, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Hi Geertjan, > > I know it is a minor point, but were you successful to schedule the dark > theme support ahead from the last donation? > > Darcula is kind of

Re: Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache (UML)

2019-09-11 Thread Eric Bresie
I do seem to recall a past thread on the UML part including some existing code (1) and some other pull requests (2) around some of that. Not sure if any of that would be helpful. (1)

Re: Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread Eric Bresie
Wondering given the push towards the embedded module JDK would refactoring some of this into more Embedded context be better? Suppose some of that may also overlap some with C/C++ contribution. Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com > On September 11, 2019 at 4:00:27 AM CDT, Tim Boudreau > wrote: > >

Re: James Gosling on NetBeans at ApacheCon today

2019-09-11 Thread Kai Uwe Pel
Wow, that's amazing news! Thanks for the update. Regards, Kai On 9/11/2019 11:11 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Hi all, I’d like to highlight the fact that one of our PMC members and committers, none other than James Gosling, did a keynote today at ApacheCon where he praised and thanked the

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Hi Geertjan, I know it is a minor point, but were you successful to schedule the dark theme support ahead from the last donation? Darcula is kind of depending on that one, though maybe one or two classes form them. On 9/11/19 1:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Hi all, Long-ish e-mail on

Re: Yenta plugin

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
I found the sources here: https://github.com/jglick/yenta I just cloned the repo, fixed the dependencies declaration for NB 11 and compiled it. Somehow it worked but did no pass the tests. I'll have to investigate. Question: how can I publish it later on if I manage to fix it properly? On Wed,

Re: Yenta plugin

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Just check with Jesse, he's on this mailing list, you should be able to find his e-mail address, maybe ask him to donate it to Apache NetBeans or to publish it in the Plugin Portal. Gj On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:18 AM Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > I found the sources here: > >

Apache NetBeans at Oracle Code One

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/netbeans-at-oracle-code-one Gj

Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, Long-ish e-mail on current status, with helpful headers in between. *4th Donation* The 4th donation, focused primarily on C/C++ support has gone through auditing and we're satisfied that what we're donating to Apache from Oracle really is Oracle's to donate. The source code is now in a

Re: Yenta plugin

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Or maybe you could work on Yenta and get it to work with the latest releases? Gj On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 9:54 AM Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > Hi guys, > > I use Jesse's org.netbeans.contrib.yenta plugin to overcome annoying (and > too restrictive) dependencies in one of my NB based application.

Re: Code One NetBeans Party

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I'll only be arriving on Sunday, so hope to run into people at the Thirsty Bear that evening and at the party that evening there. Also, we should have a get together again at the end of the week, i.e., on the last evening -- in addition to running into each other at the various NetBeans sessions.

Yenta plugin

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hi guys, I use Jesse's org.netbeans.contrib.yenta plugin to overcome annoying (and too restrictive) dependencies in one of my NB based application. However Yenta is still linked to NB 7.2. https://javalibs.com/artifact/org.netbeans.contrib.yenta/api Yenta allows me to use public classes from

AW: Yenta plugin

2019-09-11 Thread Christian Lenz
In personal, I don’t know how performant yenta is, can anyone say smth about it? It could be a very nice workaround for apis to make them public, that are private and only usable as friends. Cheers Chris Von: Geertjan Wielenga Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. September 2019 10:26 An: dev Betreff:

Re: adding classpath

2019-09-11 Thread Tim Boudreau
Describe better what you are trying to do: Modify the POM of a Maven project, or modify what the IDE thinks is the classpath of it so it offers completion for some more stuff? For the former, there's - Have an implementation dependency on the Maven module, and call code internal to it - Depend

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread John Mc
Can we also look to see whats happening with the JIRA modules? >From here(http://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file) I can see the following 6 modules: c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core.rest jira jira.rest jira.xmlrpc libs.jira.rest Regards John On

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, intended for the 5th donation, see my original mail in this thread, many thanks for the pointer to these, we definitely want to bring across the JIRA modules. Gj On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM John Mc wrote: > Can we also look to see whats happening with the JIRA modules? > > From

Re: Apache NetBeans at Oracle Code One

2019-09-11 Thread Zoran Sevarac
Cool. To add to this list if possible, although not directly NetBeans related it includes a demo of application based on NetBeans platform https://events.rainfocus.com/widget/oracle/oow19/catalogcodeone19?search=dev2126 https://www.deepnetts.com/product.html#video On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:26 AM

Re: Apache NetBeans at Oracle Code One

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Anywhere you go, take him with you. :-) And hand him over to someone else in the community to take with them, maybe Zoran, maybe Ken, for example. Gj On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:58 AM mark stephens < marksteph...@idrsolutions.com> wrote: > Would you like the Netbeans duke to be on any

Re: Apache NetBeans at Oracle Code One

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Done. Gj On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:52 AM Zoran Sevarac wrote: > Cool. To add to this list if possible, although not directly NetBeans > related it includes a demo of application based on NetBeans platform > > https://events.rainfocus.com/widget/oracle/oow19/catalogcodeone19?search=dev2126 >

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread Tim Boudreau
> nb.cluster.javacard > I'm the primary (only?) author of Javacard support, and as far as I can tell, Javacard is dead as a doornail. I see Oracle is still plugging away at it - press release from January on the web site. But I can't say I've heard of anyone using it in years. As a demo of how

Re: adding classpath

2019-09-11 Thread Bailey Campbell
On 2019/09/11 09:13:40, Tim Boudreau wrote: > Describe better what you are trying to do: Modify the POM of a Maven > project, or modify what the IDE thinks is the classpath of it so it offers > completion for some more stuff? > > For the former, there's > - Have an implementation

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread Carl Mosca
Thanks Tim for the reminders on some of that stuff and the updates. A good bit of it brings back some memories. On the community-visualweb, I keep thinking we can somehow get such an effort current/right. On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 5:00 AM Tim Boudreau wrote: > > nb.cluster.javacard > > > > I'm

Re: Bump OpenJFX to 13 for NB 11.2?

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
IMHO, any version that makes NB IDE crash or freeze (isn't it proxy!!) out of the box is a show stopper and shall not be included in the release. Now I have no experience at all with OpenJFX... Cheers, JMB On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 1:03 PM Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hello all, > > I know that we

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Only source code is being donated by Oracle to Apache and only the tip of the source code it donates. Gj On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:29 PM Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > Hi list members, > > How long is bits.netbeans.org supposed to be maintained and is there any > plan to migrate the legacy

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
And how long will bits.netbeans.org be maintained? Any input here? On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:32 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Only source code is being donated by Oracle to Apache and only the tip of > the source code it donates. > > Gj > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:29 PM Jean-Marc Borer >

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Thanks for the responses thus far, agree with them all. And, in the case of UML, take a look at this: https://blogs.oracle.com/geertjan/royal-netherlands-navy-on-netbeans I agree that UML is worth keeping, though we need actual real people to be working on it (as opposed to 'someone'). Gj On

Re: Allowing top down approach was: Maven experiment

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hi, Not sure to fully understand the topic, but if Jaroslav suggests to add a target to compile and then deploy all NB modules in a local or remote Maven repository, I am 200% in favor for that. Especially for the DEV version On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:00 AM Eric Barboni wrote: > Hi > > > > Not

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
What is it exactly that you need, as specifically as possible? Gj On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 13:00, Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > And how long will bits.netbeans.org be maintained? Any input here? > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:32 AM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > Only source code is being donated

Re: Yenta plugin

2019-09-11 Thread Tim Boudreau
> I use Jesse's org.netbeans.contrib.yenta plugin to overcome annoying (and > too restrictive) dependencies in one of my NB based application. However > Yenta is still linked to NB 7.2. > That version works fine with the latest dev builds. I am using it. Bear in mind, with modules, you *want

Re: Apache NetBeans at Oracle Code One

2019-09-11 Thread mark stephens
Would you like the Netbeans duke to be on any stands/attend anything? MArk > On 11 Sep 2019, at 09:26, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/netbeans-at-oracle-code-one > > Gj - To

Re: Yenta plugin

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
To answer Christian's question: Yenta is super useful to access public classes that you are ment to be friend with. This avoids to declare implementation dependencies. However if you need to access private classes, you will have no other option as to depend on an implementation version of the

bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hi list members, How long is bits.netbeans.org supposed to be maintained and is there any plan to migrate the legacy artifacts (dependencies up to 6.5!!) to the new netbeans.apache.org repo? Cheers, JMB

Re: Maven experiment

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
@Tim Great job with the contrib. If one wants to use some of them, how should he proceed? Clone the repo, build all projects and then load the generated NBMs in its NB IDE? Cheers On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 4:46 PM Robert Scholte wrote: > This is all very useful information. > > To answer this

RE: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi Geertjan, Nice to see progression in donation. I cannot remember if community-uml was the tools we were using for teaching purpose. But if it was the one in this screen [1] I may try to help if donated. Best Regards Eric [1] https://netbeans.org/images_www/v6/5/screenshots/uml.png

Re: Yenta plugin

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Thank you Tim. You are right about the backward compatibility. I am also using Yenta 1.1 (linked to NB 7.2) with my 11.1 application. It works perfect. However some Maven tools tend to be "too" smart (IntelliJ I see you ;-) and try to retrieve all transitive dependencies. Apparently RELEASE72 as

Re: adding classpath

2019-09-11 Thread Carl Mosca
It should not be complicated. If you're moving to maven, it will be less effort in the long run if follow conventions. If you already are following conventions, (e.g. sources are in the expected directory, etc.) I am wondering what the issue might be. Perhaps you have other projects on which

Re: adding classpath

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Probably what you're trying to do is simply add a dependency to a Maven POM? Gj On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 11:46 AM Bailey Campbell wrote: > > > On 2019/09/11 09:13:40, Tim Boudreau wrote: > > Describe better what you are trying to do: Modify the POM of a Maven > > project, or modify what the

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Well, I was wondering how long one could rely on legacy NB Maven artifacts such as NETBEANS72 or such hosted on bits.netbeans.org? I don't mind directly since we have finally migrated to NBP 11, but during a long time after the donation, we were still bound to NETBEANS82 and so do some plugins

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-11 Thread John Mc
Thank Geertjan, I didn't see the link in your email so missed the reference to JIRA... Apologies Going through the transition items, I spotted T06 - 'Migration of Wiki (or start from scratch?)' I was thinking, and looking at http://wiki.netbeans.org/Main_Page, theres a lot there that we

Preview build of 11.2 for Oracle Code One?

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, especially Neil, Could we create a special build at feature freeze named 11.2-preview so that those of us at Oracle Code One next week won’t simply have a daily build but something with a semi official name in the ZIP to be downloaded? I think especially the JDK 13 language features,