Re: Re: Re: http://netbeans.apache.org

2017-02-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
have repo/root when we > need repo/content. Anyways, I can get that tomorrow for Chris, or he if he > beats me to it. > > Thanks > > Wade > > On Jan 4, 2017 6:28 AM, "Geertjan Wielenga" < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > OK, so

Re: What is the code donation status?

2017-01-29 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Sure. In fact, the update could be weekly. There's an internal meeting every week, every Monday in principle. Three repos have been reviewed, 'html4j', 'jackpot30', and 'community-xml'. Most things found that need to be fixed are about copyright notices and in the case of the first two repos

Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
on this, thanks, > > Wade > > > === > > Wade Chandler > e: cons...@wadechandler.com > > > > > On Feb 15, 2017, at 08:25, Sven Reimers <sven.reim...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Anyone any idea how the groovy guys are doing the docum

[mentor] Credentials needed for "incubator-netbeans-website.git"

2017-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi mentors, Those who will be working on the netbeans.apache.org site need credentials. Where/how are those credentials set and by who? And if one has credentials how are they retrieved if lost (i.e., I tried checking in a small change but was blocked for authentication reasons and don't know

Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Site That's the instructions for working with the site, from Chris, page created by me. Gj On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Here are the technical (a

Re: [mentor] Credentials needed for "incubator-netbeans-website.git"

2017-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
OK, it's the same user/password as the Confluence Wiki. I changed my password there (since I had forgotten my password) and was then able to use that password to push to the site. Gj On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > H

Re: Apache NetBeans (Incubating) Web Site Change Planning

2017-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Yup, excellent. I'm going to experiment a bit too (and hey I bet we'll do > some experimentation too at the NetBeans booth at DevNexus!) and we should > collect our findings and proposals on th

Re: Apache NetBeans (Incubating) Web Site Change Planning

2017-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yup, excellent. I'm going to experiment a bit too (and hey I bet we'll do some experimentation too at the NetBeans booth at DevNexus!) and we should collect our findings and proposals on that child page. I have the netbeans.org website checked out and am trying to see how to make the new Apache

Re: Please vote in poll for "IDE of the Year"

2017-02-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Well, if we'd had 7 more votes we would have won. :-) Really funny survey, this one. All of them, really, but this one is really funny. Gj On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Dmitry Avtonomov < dmitriy.avtono...@gmail.com> wrote: > The results are statistically irrelevant, top picks have 20-30

Re: Question about which repositories are reviewed

2017-02-25 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Nope. See 5c. Gj On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 1:26 AM, Sven Reimers <sven.reim...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is community-xml missing? > > Sven > > Am 24.02.2017 11:42 nachm. schrieb "Geertjan Wielenga" < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>: > > > A

Re: Question about which repositories are reviewed

2017-02-24 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yeah, they'll be added there too, good catch, thanks. Gj On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Julien Enselme wrote: > Hi, > > On the transition page [1], I see that some repositories are listed in > "Identification of the exact NetBeans repositories to be donated to > Apache"

Re: Question about which repositories are reviewed

2017-02-24 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Added 5f that lists these repositories. Gj On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Yeah, they'll be added there too, good catch, thanks. > > Gj > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Julien Enselme <jense...@juj

Re: Re: Re: Re: http://netbeans.apache.org

2017-02-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
2016 8:37 AM, "Christian Lenz" <christian.l...@gmx.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Finally I created a ticket for this now: > https://issues.apache.org/[https://issues.apache.org/] > > > > > jira/browse/INFRA-13174 > > &

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
gt; staff. > >> > >> So, in short: PHP is not going to happen on our servers. > >> > >> With regards, > >> Daniel. > >> > >>> > >>> Afaik you can use HTML inside MD files, and I think PicoCMS can handle > HTML as

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
No worries, thanks for the work you're doing Chis, the site is great, let's get the instruction out there, just a mail to me with the instructions is all that's needed to get things going. Gj On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

Re: Re: Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I think a logo is something we should work on close to the time of releasing NetBeans out of the incubator as a top level Apache project. At that point, a lot of things will be clearer and more concrete. At this stage, could we consider the attached transitional logo, i.e., for

Re: Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I think the solution we should use should be one where we can simply copy and paste existing HTML-based tutorials and other documents from netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org. If we were to have to spend time converting HTML documents to some variant of markdown, we'll be busy a very long time

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, indeed, that's what we want to do. And that's the info I'm trying to get from Chris, i.e., the instructions for how to do that since he set up the site. Gj On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > On 02/15/2017 01:37 PM, Geertjan Wiele

Re: Re: Re: Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Attachment attached again. Gj On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Zoran Sevarac <seva...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds good to me, I just dont see atatchment... > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > >

Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
r around should be similiar to the new > style and not to the old one. > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 12:29 Uhr > > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > Betreff: Re:

Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
the instructions published and so on. Gj On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > My preference would be to keep things as simple as possible and with as > few extra/non standard things as possible. > > Gj > > On Wed,

Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
iped from the emails. > > Randall Wood > > > On Feb 15, 2017, at 07:23, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Attachment attached again. > > > > Gj > > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Zoran Sevarac <seva...

Re: Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
sendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 13:40 Uhr > > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > Betreff: Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo > > > > OK, here it is, not as an attachment, but

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
we can all know how to do it from one single reference point. Gj On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > No worries, thanks for the work you're doing Chis, the site is great, > let's get the instruction out there, just a mail to

Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-13 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
t; you planning to use spaces for the outside, no right? > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > Gesendet: Montag, 13. Februar 2017 um 15:05 Uhr > > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > &g

Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-13 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, We had another meeting today (we now have a cadence whereby we meet every Monday afternoon, 'we' being myself, Jaroslav Tulach, and others from Oracle who are systematically going through all the repositories we will be donating to ensure we're able to donate that which we want to

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: http://netbeans.apache.org

2017-02-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
> Thx Geertjan, > > you are completely right. I will do that in the next days :) > Thx. > > > Regards > > Chris > > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 09. Februar 2017 um 09:47 Uhr > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID> &

Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
17-02-15 10:59 GMT-02:00 Zoran Sevarac <seva...@gmail.com>: > > > >> Ha, logo is very cool :) > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Once I

DevNexus

2017-02-17 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, Next week at DevNexus in Atlanta, there'll be quite a few NetBeans folks in attendance. In support of our Apache transition, DevNexus have given us a Silver sponsorship, which means we have a booth for free. Thanks DevNexus! I'll be bringing all the NetBeans t-shirts I have lying around

Re: Code contribution process.

2017-02-27 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Best to wait until the code has moved from Oracle to Apache and to use the official repository once it is set up. Gj On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Christian Lenz wrote: > I know there is long way to go to bring NetBeans to apache, but a lot of > people signed such

Re: Code contribution process.

2017-02-27 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
We also need to figure out a way to do some kind of code quality checks and tests and so on -- I fear a future where everyone can simply put anything into NetBeans in Apache without any kind of intermediate or staging process. Gj On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Geertjan Wielenga

Two-phased code donation proposal

2017-02-28 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, I'd like to propose a two-phased code donation -- the first for all the parts necessary for building a Java SE distribution of NetBeans IDE and the second for all the other parts. I.e., the first code donation would be 5a-d in the link below and the second code donation would be 5e-f in

Re: DevNexus

2017-03-01 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Sounds great! Congrat! > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> It was really great at DevNexus last week: > >> > >> 1. DevNexu

Re: Slack vs dev list (was: Code contribution process.)

2017-03-02 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
All this is a good discussion and let's continue it. >From my point of view, I have so many channels to follow -- Twitter, Facebook, mailing lists, and more. I very rarely, although I intended to do so when the NetBeans Slach channel was set up, use Slack. A concern I have with NetBeans on Slack

Re: Code contribution process.

2017-02-27 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
e can simply put anything > into NetBeans in Apache without any kind of intermediate or staging > process. > > Not everybody will be an Apache committer and that's why we have a vote > for it. > > --emi > > Pe 27 feb. 2017, la 16:08, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.w

Re: DevNexus

2017-02-27 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
in the speaker community. It was a great event and clearly having a clear presence via a booth makes a very big difference in terms of visibility. Gj On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Next week at DevNexus in At

Re: Code contribution process.

2017-02-27 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Perfect. Gj On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > > > > IIUC what you're describing is CTR, Commit-Then-Review. > > It's perfectly fine for an Apache project to use CTR for some parts of > > its code and RTC (Review-Then-Commit) for other, more critical

The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists

2016-10-05 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, I think we need clarity on what we want to do with each of the mailing lists and who should be on them, My understand is that there are, at least initially, these: - one for the PPMC - one for developers working on Apache NetBeans - one for users making use of Apache NetBeans If not

Re: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists

2016-10-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Lécharny <elecha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Le 06/10/16 à 10:28, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> ...Before getting people to come over from the existing mailing

Re: Incubation boundaries ?

2016-10-05 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi Eric, We'll have Wikis soon, where everything will be tracked! Gj On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Eric Barboni wrote: > Hi, > > It seems obvious to migrate NetBeans source code, and issue tracking, > continuous build. > > It's maybe too much anticipation but > > Will for

Re: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists

2016-10-05 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
out Python or Rust or some other languages and technologies. Hope from the above it can be seen that this proposal tries to strike a balance between the different valid concerns. Gj On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct

Re: Bring the Folk to this ML please

2016-10-05 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Can someone tell on the NetBeans list, that the list at Apache is ready. > So the people can join and no one miss a discussion. Yes, indeed. Over time, we will do that. Let's take it step by step. I'll certainly put a mail out on that

Re: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists

2016-10-05 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: During the proposal time i created a NetBeans account and looked into the > community. The similarities with OpenOffice are on some level realy height. > Mainly the infrastructure is very similar. In the case of the ML it's > pretty much the

Re: Wiki setup (was: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists)

2016-10-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
In Apache, I think things are solved by discussing them via e-mails until a general agreement is reached. I think that works quite well. The differences between different ideas are quite small, I think, at least so far. Gj On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Anael Mobilia wrote: >

Re: Wiki setup (was: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists)

2016-10-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
OK, great. Though before using something like that, just discussing in the way we're doing, i.e,, feeling things out as we're currently doing, is a pretty good thing. Gj On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 10/06/2016 02:26 PM, Anael Mobilia wrote: >

Re: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists

2016-10-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Bruno Souza wrote: > There is another thing also: the sentiment of belonging. We are a separated > community, and the more we insist in do what we always did (we start with > domains and mailing lists, but pretty soon we will be wanting to keep our > processes and

Re: Handover timeline

2016-10-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Thanks for the additions and clarifications. Our collective understanding in this project is getting more and more finetuned, great. Gj On Saturday, October 8, 2016, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Le 08/10/16 à 19:12, Geertjan Wielenga a écrit : > > People on th

Re: Handover timeline

2016-10-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
All this we will be documenting and working out together once the Wiki is available. Definitely, though, we will not leave the incubator without the code grant and handover of d9maibs etc. Gj On Saturday, October 8, 2016, Emilian Bold wrote: > Hello, > > Now that

Re: Handover timeline

2016-10-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
efore the code grant? Because what > they actually need is the Oracle Contributor Agreement on file. > > > --emi > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > All this we

Re: Handover timeline

2016-10-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Indeed Emilian. The code needs to be officially granted by Oracle -- right now the Git experiments being done are only experiments. The code needs to be officially granted to ASF and that will certainly be done and is absolutely a requirement. Oracle has already agreed to it otherwise we wouldn't

Re: source grant and repo transfer

2016-10-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
l in the end come back to you old NetBeans folks > anyway ;) > > LieGrue, > strub > > > Am 06.10.2016 um 23:26 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>: > > > > Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Mark Struberg: > > > >> I’v

Re: source grant and repo transfer

2016-10-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Mark Struberg: > I’ve migrated the NetBeans hg repo into GIT. It is appreciated a lot. But we definitely need to wait a bit before doing this. The JDK 9 branch needs to be merged into the main branch, etc, i.e., we really need to do quite some work on the NetBeans

Re: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists

2016-10-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
d leave the largest last? I would love to have answers to the above questions from Emilian re the mailing list status. Can the mentors help with the answers here? Thanks, Gj On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Thu, O

Re: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists

2016-10-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yup. I think there needs to be a parallel solution like this. Gj On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Emilian Bold > wrote: > > ...if we > > only ask a lot of people will not notice this

Re: Wiki setup (was: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists)

2016-10-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Great, thanks! Gj On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Daniel Gruno > wrote: > > ...So, to sum up: > > - CMS: NO > > - Moin Wiki: NO > > - Confluence: POSSIBLE ... > > I have requested a

Re: Bring the Folk to this ML please

2016-10-05 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hurray Jirka is with us! Gj On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > Hi folks, > >my name is Jiří Kovalský and I am known in the NetBeans community > especially as a coordinator of NetCAT programs [1]. I am an Oracle > employee, who started as a

[DISCUSS] NetBeans Transition Sequence

2016-10-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, An overview of the sequence as far as I understand it. Consider it a basic starting point for discussion. Let's start by assuming we want there to be a NetBeans 9 to be released out of Apache, and as a top level project, i.e., outside the incubator, in line with the release of Java 9.

Re: [DISCUSS] NetBeans Transition Sequence

2016-10-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
have be the Java 9 release. > > > > --emi > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > An overview of the sequence as far as I understand it. Consider it a > basic > >

Re: Wiki is ready, please ask for access

2016-10-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
te: > > > > > Confluence username is mcdonnell.john > > > > > > John > > > > > > > On 10 Oct 2016, at 17:47, David Heffelfinger < > dheffelfin...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Apol

Graal.js

2016-11-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, An open question is the status of the ECMAScript 6 JavaScript parser and its usage within the context of Apache NetBeans (incubating). Only a small fraction of Graal.js (the parser, ~5% of source) has needed to be made available (under GPLv2) for consumption by NetBeans. I.e., only a

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
nload-able packages don’t contain Java. > > > > Is it worth getting download numbers for each of the 5 packages and > seeing > > what % of user base this change would effect currently? > > > > Will this additional download drive Java Developers away from Netbean

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
all > Java? As I think I could get behind that, provided we don’t forget to > advertise that Java is a “first class citizen” in the Netbeans Ecosystem. > > > Regards > > John > > > > > On 7 Nov 2016, at 22:56, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@goog

Fwd: [jira] [Created] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module

2016-11-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Woot indeed! Thanks to everyone especially our mentors and especially Ate in particular for managing this specific process so well. Gj On Tuesday, November 8, 2016, Wade Chandler > wrote: > Woot...thanks Ate. >

Re: IDE-javac

2016-11-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Agreed, definitely, something to be discussed. A starting point to understanding the what and why of nb-javac is here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Overview%3A+nb-javac However, how is the maintenance of nb-javac any different to the maintenance of any other part of

Re: IDE-javac

2016-11-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
*force* a requirement on an end user that they > have *not already accepted on their own*, independent of our > software. > > > On Nov 8, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Agreed, definitely, something t

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > Geertjan and others already clarified and are documenting the modularity of > NetBeans [2], with the core NetBeans platform being the only required part. > All other modules (or clusters) being optional. > So many users might not need the

Re: Defining "core" and "optional modules" in Apache NetBeans (incubating)

2016-11-05 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I can see the same for other things > depending on folks expectations. So, as long as we are openly clear on > that. I think per the other thread that will be the case, but people need > to know that. > > Wade > > > > On Nov 5, 2016, at 06:39, Geertjan Wielenga < > ge

Re: IDE-javac

2016-11-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
com > wrote: > On 8 Nov 2016 22:41, "Geertjan Wielenga" <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com > > > wrote: > > However, how is the maintenance of nb-javac any different to the > > maintenance of any other part of NetBeans? All of NetBeans needs to be > > ma

Language for Schedule A and Schedule B of the CCLA

2016-11-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, There is one single document for providing the initial list of designated employees (CCLA) and the software grant agreement (SGA). That document is this one, with the CCLA being Schedule A and the SGA being Schedule B: http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt Schedule A is

Re: Structure of NetBeans

2016-11-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Thanks a lot for these clarifications, Vladimir. I'll integrate that into the document. Gj On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Vladimir Voskresensky < vladimir.voskresen...@oracle.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On 11/ 4/16 05:30 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >> Hi all, >>

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
> > > I'm all for the single installer with different module download > > > options. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:19 PM, John McDonnell <mcdonnell.john@gmail. > > > com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >

Re: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists

2016-11-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:14 PM Emilian Bold wrote: I have just created Great. Can it be moved to be a child of "Apache Transition"? Yes, that will change the URL, though that doesn't matter very much right now since no one is linking to it and it's just discussed in this thread right now. I

Re: Structure of NetBeans

2016-11-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
n be helpful for having some information for licenses > > http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/nbms-and-javadoc/ > lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/nbbuild/build/generated/ > external-libraries.txt > a bit late > > Regards > Eric > > -----Message d'origine- >

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-05 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > I don't like to come off as a preacher, so please don't take this the wrong > way. I am trying to avoid future headaches... I don't really understand your point. Ate has explained the legal question that needs to be resolved and Bertrand

Re: Git @apache (was: [PROPOSAL] Split the main NetBeans repo)

2016-10-19 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Even while we don't have the SGA yet (in process in Oracle at the moment), we could already set up our Git repo and somewhere I imagine we'll have a place where anyone can commit plugin code, i.e., a subfolder called 'contrib', where ultimately the NetBeans contrib repo will be migrated. Until

Re: Website transition

2016-10-18 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Provided Oracle grants us netbeans.org, there is no need to move any > URLs. The user-facing part of the web site can live at netbeans.org, > that's not an issue. The only thing that MUST live at > netbeans.apache.org is the developer/project

Re: Jenkins & Git @apache (was: [PROPOSAL] Split the main NetBeans repo)

2016-10-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
was true, but it isn't. Gj On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Only once we have the software grant can we migrate anything from > hg.netbeans.org. > > However, if you have your own personal code that is not licensed under

Re: Jenkins & Git @apache (was: [PROPOSAL] Split the main NetBeans repo)

2016-10-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> ...there's nothing stopping us right now from setting up our Git > >> repo and having it mirrored on GitHub... > > > > Definitely - just choose a r

Re: Jenkins & Git @apache (was: [PROPOSAL] Split the main NetBeans repo)

2016-10-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
, Oct 20, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org > wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > ...if you have your own personal code that is not licensed under > > Oracle

Re: README & commit workflow was: Git "temp" repository requested

2016-10-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Great, thanks for the exploratory steps you're doing already. Indeed, what you describe sounds desirable -- let's see if someone can offer insight into that approach here. Gj On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > Hi, > I also made my first commit

Re: Website transition

2016-10-18 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
18, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > On 10/18/2016 12:53 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > >> Provided Oracle grants us netbeans.org, there is no need to move any > >> URLs. Th

Re: README & commit workflow was: Git "temp" repository requested

2016-10-25 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Indeed, we need to bring these email discussions to the surface, i.e., please create proposals on the Wiki within the one below. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition Gj On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:16 AM, Wade Chandler wrote: > For me

Re: Jenkins & Git @apache (was: [PROPOSAL] Split the main NetBeans repo)

2016-10-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
But that bit of similar code in order to test the infrastructure would also need a software grant to be able to import it into an Apache repository? Gj On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:

Re: Please grant editing permissions for Who's Who page (Apache NetBeans project)

2016-11-25 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Done! Gj On Friday, November 25, 2016, Dmitry Zharkov wrote: > Hello, > > I'm Dmitry Zharkov ("dimazh" user) of NetBeans CND team. Can you please > provide editing option for me so that I can update Confluence Who's Who > table with some my introduction data? > >

Re: Who's Who

2016-11-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
s. > -Yonathan. > > On Monday, November 21, 2016 5:28 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny < > elecha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Le 21/11/16 à 11:22, Geertjan Wielenga a écrit : > > Yes, but not all of them have a Confluence user/password yet. > > Ah, true... O

Re: Editing permissions for Wiki

2016-11-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Awesome, yes, these are great times, and you have editing permissions now. Gj On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Bernd Ruehlicke < bernd.ruehli...@eriksfiord.com> wrote: > Please enable editing permissions for Wiki: Bernd Ruehlicke (bruehlicke) > > Uploaded picture to Confluence on my user. I

Re: Wiki grant

2016-11-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Done! Gj On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Benno Markiewicz < benno.markiew...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Geertjan, please try it again. I registered at cwiki with a new account. > Same nickname markiewb. > > Thank you. > > With kind regards, markiewb > > 2016-

Re: Apache File Headers

2016-11-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
What is "the appropriate Apache 2.0 headers"? Can you provide a pointer to it or something concrete? Gj On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > On 11/23/2016 06:23 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Thanks for the question Jarosl

Re: Apache File Headers

2016-11-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Thanks for the question Jaroslav and the answer Emilian. Can one or more of our mentors confirm the above? Thanks, Geertjan On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > I believe you transfer the code as-is. The license header will be changed > when the code

Re: Re: Re: Re: http://netbeans.apache.org

2016-11-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
nd files to netbeans.a.o but I read about that it is needed to > > > have a development folder and a dist/build folder, which makes really > > sense > > > to me. > > > Maybe I can create it with npm for example. > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Re: Re: Re: http://netbeans.apache.org

2016-11-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Makes sense, thanks. Gj On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org > wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > All explained here: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/c

Re: Re: Re: Re: http://netbeans.apache.org

2016-11-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
PS: How is value added prior to being a committer? On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Makes sense, thanks. > > Gj > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> wr

Re: Re: Re: Re: http://netbeans.apache.org

2016-11-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
OK, makes sense. Gj On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Tushar Joshi <tusharvjo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > PS: How is value added prior to being a committer? > > &

Re: Re: Re: Who's Who

2016-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
; ;). > Username is same as my apacheId. chrizzly. > > > Thx and sry. > > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. November 2016 um 17:28 Uhr > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Re:

Re: Editing permissions for Confluence

2016-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Done. Gj On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Junichi Yamamoto wrote: > Hello, > > Could you provide editing permissions to my account (junichi11)? > > Thanks, > Junichi >

Re: Wiki grant

2016-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Done. Gj On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Christian Stolz wrote: > Hello Geertjan, > > me too ;) > Username: chst > > Thanks > Christian > > 2016-11-22 7:08 GMT+01:00 Jaroslav Tulach : > >> Hello Geertjan, >> can I get editing access

Re: Editing permissions for Confluence

2016-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Done! Gj On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Marcelo Aleks <marcelo.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Geertjan, > > i would like to enlist me too !-D > > User : aleksmarcelo > > Cheers ! > > 2016-11-22 15:09 GMT-02:00 Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@

Re: Editing permissions for Confluence

2016-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
"Marcelo" under "Leonardo"? Thanks, Gj On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Marcelo Aleks <marcelo.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you !! > > > > 2016-11-22 15:27 GMT-02:00 Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>: > > &g

Re: Editing permissions for Confluence

2016-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Done! Gj On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Dmitry Avtonomov < dmitriy.avtono...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > Could you please grant permissions to account: chhh > > Thanks, > Dmitry Avtonomov >

Re: Switching to Git was: Version control advice

2016-11-24 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
There's no sadness at all. :-) We're working on the final document at the moment, yes, these things take time. I currently predict it will be next week for the document to be finalized. Gj On Thursday, November 24, 2016, Emilian Bold wrote: > At under 1GB the repository

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