Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-16 Thread Jacques Le Roux
FYI: I was not aware this existed http://asciidoctor.org/docs/asciidoctorj/ Using AsciidoctorJ, you can convert AsciiDoc content or analyze the structure of a parsed AsciiDoc document from Java and other JVM languages. I see at least DocBook as backend option. We now from DocBook we can have

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-16 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Le 16/06/2015 09:48, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : FYI: I was not aware this existed http://asciidoctor.org/docs/asciidoctorj/ Using AsciidoctorJ, you can convert AsciiDoc content or analyze the structure of a parsed AsciiDoc document from Java and other JVM languages. I see at least DocBook as

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-15 Thread Sharan Foga
Paul has raised a really key point - it's not only developers that we want to help document OFBiz. I like the idea of having something that is simple to use that gives a lot of flexibility and allows anyone to contribute. We have the Community Day coming up on Saturday and I'm going to do

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-15 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 14/06/2015 7:08 PM, Paul Foxworthy wrote: Hi all, Ron Wheeler wrote I expect that everyone has an IDE that can edit and validate XML. All the other tools required are free. ... OFBiz is pretty XML intensive so I would be surprised if OFBiz developers did not use an IDE that can validate

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-14 Thread Paul Foxworthy
I said: When I last looked into DITA quite a few years ago, it seemed to be a heavyweight thing that only made sense if you wanted multiple destinations Jacques said: So you think Docbook (more aimed to create book when DITA is more of online help kind, I read) or AsciiDoc are not able

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-14 Thread Paul Foxworthy
Hi all, Ron Wheeler wrote I expect that everyone has an IDE that can edit and validate XML. All the other tools required are free. ... OFBiz is pretty XML intensive so I would be surprised if OFBiz developers did not use an IDE that can validate XML. Do we only want developers to

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-07 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 06/06/2015 5:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Le 06/06/2015 08:10, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : Sharan-F wrote I'm a bit unclear about what you are suggesting. * Is it about replacing the Docbook implementation we currently have within OFBiz with something else (e.g Asciidoc)? * Is it

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-07 Thread Ron Wheeler
: Paul Foxworthy p...@cohsoft.com.a Pau To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Saturday, 6 June, 2015 9:10:28 AM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA Sharan-F wrote I'm a bit unclear about what you are suggesting. * Is it about replacing the Docbook implementation we currently

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-06 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
towards keeping DocBook, but if a PoC shows how DITA can shine, then why not! Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: Paul Foxworthy p...@cohsoft.com.a Pau To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Saturday, 6 June, 2015 9:10:28 AM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-06 Thread Paul Foxworthy
Sharan-F wrote I'm a bit unclear about what you are suggesting. * Is it about replacing the Docbook implementation we currently have within OFBiz with something else (e.g Asciidoc)? * Is it about extracting the Docbook content from what we currently have in OFBiz and then

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-06 Thread Paul Foxworthy
Sharan-F wrote Confluence is the Apache approved tools for wiki so we still need to work within this constraint for now. In any case – I think we firstly need to do some review of the all the documentation we have before we start structuring it. Hi Sharan, There is a free tool to import

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Le 06/06/2015 08:10, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : Sharan-F wrote I'm a bit unclear about what you are suggesting. * Is it about replacing the Docbook implementation we currently have within OFBiz with something else (e.g Asciidoc)? * Is it about extracting the Docbook content from what

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux
June, 2015 9:10:28 AM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA Sharan-F wrote I'm a bit unclear about what you are suggesting. * Is it about replacing the Docbook implementation we currently have within OFBiz with something else (e.g Asciidoc)? * Is it about extracting

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-05 Thread Sharan-F
Hi Taher Thanks for the response. I think that working through your action list would be a really good move so am happy to work on it. I think we'll need to take this discussion off the mailing list as it is because we will need to share files (such as the ones that dont work etc) so I will

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-05 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
- From: Sharan-F sharan.f...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 4 June, 2015 11:01:58 AM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA Hi Taher It would be good to understand what exactly is missing from our Docbook implementation. It might be that we

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-04 Thread Sharan-F
Hi Taher It would be good to understand what exactly is missing from our Docbook implementation. It might be that we have set the tags at a specific level (e.g section etc) which means that we cant use chapters etc. I'm still thinking but the main thing that concerns me is this. There is a

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-04 Thread Ron Wheeler
I am willing to work on a DITA PoC. Ron On 04/06/2015 4:01 AM, Sharan-F wrote: Hi Taher It would be good to understand what exactly is missing from our Docbook implementation. It might be that we have set the tags at a specific level (e.g section etc) which means that we cant use chapters

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Ron Wheeler
There are free tools - Eclipse/STS if you do not already have an IDE. The publishing tool DITA-OT is open source. There are tools that can be purchased. I have not purchased anything. On 03/06/2015 4:47 AM, Paul Foxworthy wrote: Hi Ron, For serious use of DITA, would it be necessary to

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 03/06/2015 5:09 AM, Sharan Foga wrote: Hi Paul I've got some other threads open on the user mailing lists about documentation strategies because I wanted to get some feedback from the user community and I'm a bit unclear about what you are suggesting. * Is it about replacing the Docbook

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Paul Foxworthy
Hi Ron, For serious use of DITA, would it be necessary to invest in specialist tools? That would be a real barrier for an open source project. I've have had good results in another project using AsciiDoc, which is a wiki-like markup language. Unlike Markdown and all those others, it's not

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Sharan Foga
Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: Paul Foxworthy p...@cohsoft.com.au To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org, rwhee...@artifact-software.com Sent: Wednesday, 3 June, 2015 11:47:52 AM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA Hi Ron, For serious use of DITA, would it be necessary

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Jacques Le Roux
: Wednesday, 3 June, 2015 11:47:52 AM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA Hi Ron, For serious use of DITA, would it be necessary to invest in specialist tools? That would be a real barrier for an open source project. I've have had good results in another project using

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi Paul I've got some other threads open on the user mailing lists about documentation strategies because I wanted to get some feedback from the user community and I'm a bit unclear about what you are suggesting. * Is it about replacing the Docbook implementation we currently have within

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Sharan Foga
and improve what we are doing now). My 2 cents Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: Paul Foxworthy p...@cohsoft.com.au To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org, rwhee...@artifact-software.com Sent: Wednesday, 3 June, 2015 11:47:52 AM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA Hi Ron

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
would it change and improve what we are doing now). My 2 cents Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: Paul Foxworthy p...@cohsoft.com.au To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org, rwhee...@artifact-software.com Sent: Wednesday, 3 June, 2015 11:47:52 AM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Sharan Foga
- Original Message - From: Paul Foxworthy p...@cohsoft.com.au To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org, rwhee...@artifact-software.com Sent: Wednesday, 3 June, 2015 11:47:52 AM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA Hi Ron, For serious use of DITA, would it be necessary to invest

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
Message - From: Sharan-F sharan.f...@gmail.com To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 3 June, 2015 3:32:02 PM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA Hi Taher I've just had a go with the validating the HR Guide file. When I ran the validation the only message I

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
:39:44 PM Subject: Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA Hi Taher That's a good point - no I didn't do that. I don't know how to do it - do you have any instructions so I can try it? Thanks Sharan On 03/06/15 12:20, Taher Alkhateeb wrote: Hi Sharan, Interesting, did

Re: Possible Documentation and help solutions - DITA

2015-06-03 Thread Sharan-F
Hi Taher I've just had a go with the validating the HR Guide file. When I ran the validation the only message I got was that it stripped the namespace before processing. The output file was fine (I didnt include the path to the images so they are coming out as blank frames) but everything else