Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

2016-09-03 Thread Phillip Rhodes
Welcome to the project, Ed. Don't sweat the lack of C++ experience. Not everything is in C++, and you can pick up the C++ knowledge as you go. I'm in a little bit of the same boat, as I *was* a C++ programmer - about 15 years ago. It's been quite a while for me, so I'm going to have to

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Welcome aboard, Ed. More comments interleaved. On 9/2/2016 11:44 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: Welcome to the project, Ed. Don't sweat the lack of C++ experience. Not everything is in C++, and you can pick up the C++ knowledge as you go. I'm in a little bit of the same boat, as I *was* a C++

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Thanks. I've already filed the request to create the list. Once that happens I'll see about adding you to the moderators. On 9/2/2016 10:42 PM, Dave Barton wrote: I am an a moderator for this and other AOO lists. Feel free to add me to the list of moderators. Regards Dave Original

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Jorg Schmidt
> From: Bruce Byfield [mailto:bbyfi...@axion.net] > I would suggest that the question goes beyond marketing. It is about > purpose as well. What makes AOO worth spending time on, as opposed to > any other similar project? It is the high quality and practical significance. OK, at the moment

Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Sep 3, 2016 7:46 PM, "Andrea Pescetti" wrote: > > Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >> I had already submitted a talk for this year's ApacheConEU > > > Ah, nice! An OpenOffice-specific talk or a generic one? I mean, would it fit into a (hypothetical, of course; everything depends on

Re: We believe in OpenOffice. We want to help.

2016-09-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
Super super news! Thx!! > On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:49 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > > Hello, > > hard times for OpenOffice, but no unsolvable problems if we stand together. > > We, the team to the ProOO-Box (www.prooo-box.org), want the whole community > to assure that we will

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
Cool... We should get rid of that old page or put DEPRECATED in big letters. So have people built w/ 10.11 and Xcode 7.2.1 ? > On Sep 3, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > Jim Jagielski wrote: >> According to >>

Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
> Hello guys; > > Before "the dramatic events of the last hours" I had already submitted a > talk for this year's ApacheConEU (Sevilla is such a nice city to have a > conference!). > > I understand that AOO people may feel discouraged now to attend but I > don't really believe any form of boycott

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

2016-09-03 Thread Ed Fallin
Hi there Phillip and Patricia — Thanks for your e-mails. Is now the right time not to send to all? I’m happy to avoid that but, I don’t want to be a lurker. So, it’s interesting that some is C++ and some Java, and Yes I think the Java side will be easy to pick up, but I’ll aim to work on

Re: Merge with LibreOffice?

2016-09-03 Thread Xen
Christoph Reg wrote: Regardless of why or how, when it comes to development, it's clear that LO has won. Hands down. LO gets more commits in one or two days than AOO had since the beginning of the year. Apparently, all devs have moved over and AOO development is dead. Unless there is a lot of

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jim Jagielski wrote: According to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_MacOSX o OSX 10.4 or 10.5 o Xcode 2.4.1 or 3 o OSX 10.4 SDK Ahem... Have you noticed that the title says "OpenOffice 3.x or Apache OpenOffice 4.0"? You should not build 4.0.

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
Let me check. FWIW, I have now a 10.7 guest running on my MacPro via VMware Fusion. I am the legal licensee of that version as well. > On Sep 3, 2016, at 1:28 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > It works on VMware VHosts too. > > Jim, wearing your VP, Legal Affairs hat do you

OOo extras

2016-09-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; FWIW, the apache-extras.org site that carried the OOo extras tarballs has been redirected to the sourceforge site. The oooextras.mirror site at sourceforge has a circular reference to the OOO Extras Web Site that is now redundant. Someone with access, please upload the Python-2.7.12

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
> On Sep 3, 2016, at 09:41, Ed Fallin wrote: > > Hi there Phillip and Patricia — > > Thanks for your e-mails. Is now the right time not to send to all? I’m > happy to avoid that but, I don’t want to be a lurker. I have requested creation of a recruitment mailing

Re: Office Writer Spell Check...

2016-09-03 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Robert wrote: > The Spell Check option “Ignore All” doesn’t work. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > Robert; You do not give us a lot to diagnose your problem with. If you are expecting it to ignore all spelling errors that is not the way it is designed to work. Ignore all and replace all

RE: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am in the same position as Patricia and will not be traveling to European conferences. > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 04:21 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November >

Re: Merge with LibreOffice?

2016-09-03 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 03/09/2016 à 18:47, Xen a écrit : OpenOffice is unusable on Linux, you can't easily install it and once installed you don't know how to fire it up; it is not in the path, it is not in the menus, and you have to provide this on your own, if it even works. Not at all. I use xubuntu since

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
According to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_MacOSX o OSX 10.4 or 10.5 o Xcode 2.4.1 or 3 o OSX 10.4 SDK From what I can see the likely culprit is support for PowerPC, since, iirc, 10.4 was the last to support PPC. The OSX 10.4 SDK is also an

Re: The AOO build system

2016-09-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Sep 2, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > > 3. Regarding Mac in particular, I'll repeat this question from an earlier > thread: Does the ASF have Mac hardware for doing Mac builds, or are we > dependent solely on developer machines for that? > Is there

Re: Merge with LibreOffice?

2016-09-03 Thread Xen
Hagar Delest schreef op 03-09-2016 19:04: Le 03/09/2016 à 18:47, Xen a écrit : OpenOffice is unusable on Linux, you can't easily install it and once installed you don't know how to fire it up; it is not in the path, it is not in the menus, and you have to provide this on your own, if it even

Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/3/2016 7:10 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello guys; Before "the dramatic events of the last hours" I had already submitted a talk for this year's ApacheConEU (Sevilla is such a nice city to have a conference!). I understand that AOO people may feel discouraged now to attend but I don't

Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Pedro Giffuni wrote: I had already submitted a talk for this year's ApacheConEU Ah, nice! An OpenOffice-specific talk or a generic one? I mean, would it fit into a (hypothetical, of course; everything depends on reviewers) OpenOffice track or not? Regards, Andrea.

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
Please be aware that the board does not "stick its nose" into the daily operations of a project. The current status of AOO came to the boards attention via the required PMC reports as well as other communications. It was only because of that that the board got involved. > On Sep 2, 2016, at 3:57

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Dave Fisher
Thank you for the initiative. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2016, at 7:00 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > >> On 9/3/2016 2:07 AM, Marcus wrote: >> Am 09/03/2016 09:47 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: >>> Thanks. I've already filed the request to create the list. Once that >>>

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
Well, not sure if it is *allowed* or not, but VMware Fusion specifically allows for it. And it works. > On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > > That's unfortunate. And Apple doesn't allow running OSX under a VM on > another > OS do they? > > > Phil >

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Dave Fisher
It works on VMware VHosts too. Jim, wearing your VP, Legal Affairs hat do you know anyone at Apple that could help grant a special license from Apple? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Well, not sure if it is

Re: Resigning from Apache OpenOffice

2016-09-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
Thus makes me very, very sad. I hope that my comments are not a factor here. As anyone who had been following the hacker-news and LWN thread know, I am a supporter of AOO; I have been one since the start despite the slings and arrows directed towards me in being such. There was no intent to

Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andrea; Pedro Giffuni wrote: I had already submitted a talk for this year's ApacheConEU Ah, nice! An OpenOffice-specific talk or a generic one? I mean, would it fit into a (hypothetical, of course; everything depends on reviewers) OpenOffice track or not? It is about random number

Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-03 Thread Dave Fisher
I don't have very much free time, but once MacOSX build instructions are rewritten and the process clean. I am willing to validate the instructions and each step on a fresh Mac. This would also put me a position to cast a binding vote on a release when that is ready. Sent from my iPhone > On

What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Xen
Phillip Rhodes wrote: OK, counter-point to the other thread... let's talk specifically about what needs to happen next, given that some (plenty|most|all|???) of us want this project to continue moving forward. What has to happen next? What is the most important thing/things we could be

Re: OOo extras

2016-09-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Pedro Giffuni wrote: On 09/03/16 11:07, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Someone with access, please upload the Python-2.7.12 tar ball for extra safety. And while there, the dejavu fonts version 2.37 may be a good idea too. Both uploaded. But you should join the OOoExtras admins too. If you have a

Re: OOo extras

2016-09-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 09/03/16 11:07, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; FWIW, the apache-extras.org site that carried the OOo extras tarballs has been redirected to the sourceforge site. The oooextras.mirror site at sourceforge has a circular reference to the OOO Extras Web Site that is now redundant. Someone with

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 03:17:01PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Cool... We should get rid of that old page or put DEPRECATED in big letters. > > So have people built w/ 10.11 and Xcode 7.2.1 ? I've just built branch AOO410 with the latest and greatest, you need to apply

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
I had an issue w/ epm and PackageMaker, which is hardcoded in configure to live in /Developer/ Also some other nits... Taking notes and will send patches in. > On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 03:17:01PM -0400, Jim

RE: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:18 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve? > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Patricia Shanahan

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Jim Jagielski wrote: > Cool... We should get rid of that old page or put DEPRECATED in big letters. > I have added a note to the page stating that it is deprecated along with a link to the newer page. Regards Keith > So have people built w/ 10.11 and Xcode 7.2.1 ? > >> On Sep 3, 2016, at 2:02

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Jim, On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 05:20:08PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > I had an issue w/ epm and PackageMaker, which is hardcoded in > configure to live in /Developer/ Also some other nits... For epm you have two options: - use --with-epm-url pointing to a tarball - build you own epm

Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
I had planned to send an exploratory mail to see who was considering, or even just available, to attend ApacheCon in November. We can't pretend that nothing happened in the last 36 hours, so this reflects in the current mail, but the question (and the tight deadline) still holds. ApacheCon

We believe in OpenOffice. We want to help.

2016-09-03 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, hard times for OpenOffice, but no unsolvable problems if we stand together. We, the team to the ProOO-Box (www.prooo-box.org), want the whole community to assure that we will support a new release of AOO (4.1.3 or 4.2.0) with particular intensity by our public relations in Germany.

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Marcus
Am 09/03/2016 09:47 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: Thanks. I've already filed the request to create the list. Once that happens I'll see about adding you to the moderators. that's the problem of time zones: You are always late when others have already answered. ;-) So, if you need another