Re: Editing needed on BZ footer -- remove podling reference

2012-11-16 Thread Dave Fisher
On Nov 16, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 15, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 11/14/2012 05:06 PM, TJ Frazier wrote: On 11/14/2012 18:47, Kay Schenk wrote: HI -- Could one of our BZ

Re: promoting svn assets

2012-11-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Joe, Thanks! On Nov 21, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: With the holiday weekend coming up, I'd like to suggest that that's as good a time as any to adjust the location of your svn tree to top-level. Instead of doing a straight svn mv of the tree, I plan to copy it instead and

Re: [RELEASE] AOO.next = AOO 4.0

2012-11-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Nov 22, 2012, at 3:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/21/12 10:14 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 11/21/2012 09:41 PM, schrieb jan iversen: On 21 November 2012 21:30, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I got the impression that the majority would support a

Re: desktop publishing

2012-11-22 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Phil, It is not completely impossible that an extension could be added to AOO to read and write Publisher files. It just takes one or two Java programmers with the time and interest. See [1] for where the effort could start. On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Fernand Vanrie wrote: Juergen,

Re: [RELEASE] AOO.next = AOO 4.0

2012-11-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Nov 22, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 22/11/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/21/12 10:14 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 11/21/2012 09:41 PM, schrieb jan iversen: On 21 November 2012 21:30, Andrea Pescetti wrote: I would propose the following: - We announce on ooo-l10n that 2

Re: [proposal/question] wiki.openoffice.org future: mediaWiki or Apache JSPWiki.

2012-12-03 Thread Dave Fisher
Sorry to top post. Jspwiki has been in the incubator for a few years. There is no guarantee it will ever graduate. They have not switched completely to ASF infrastructure. Please look in the general@i.a.o archives and the incubator board reports. While this discussion is good lets not be

Re: www.apache.org/projects has no AOO ??

2012-12-03 Thread Dave Fisher
The transition to TLP is not complete. We do not use JIRA. We have our bugzilla instance Regards, Save Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2012, at 1:19 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: When I look in www.apache.org projects, take indexes, I cannot find: Apache OpenOffice OpenOffice or OOO

Re: [RELEASE, IMPORTANT]: What is a release - my lesson learned at ApacheCon EU 2012

2012-12-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Oliver-Ranier, You have written an excellent summary. These releases both official source releases and user convenience binaries are distinct and voted. These should not be confused with the following: (1) current svn source trunk. (2) binaries built for QA, l10n, or other purposes especially

Re: dist move...

2012-12-06 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 12/6/2012 9:40 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 06.12.2012 00:03, Kay Schenk wrote: I put in a request, as part of our graduation process, to have our dist area moved to a top

Re: Admin mailing list?

2012-12-12 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 12, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Rob Weir wrote: If we're going to have all of these wiki account requests via email, would it makes sense to create a special admin list (or webmaster list) for these and similar requests, and maybe also for general website development topics? sysadmin requests

Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

2012-12-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Andrea, On Dec 16, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: I think that we can purge these *.htm duplicates, but if we do it will be a sledgehammer build. It will also be a problem, unless we accompany it with other changes: for example, http://www.openoffice.org

Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

2012-12-17 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Andrea, On Dec 16, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: I think that we can purge these *.htm duplicates, but if we do

Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

2012-12-17 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Dave Fisher wrote on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:20:05 -0800: On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Andrea, On Dec 16, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Andrea Pescetti

Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

2012-12-17 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Dave Fisher wrote on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:20:05 -0800: On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi

Re: Help needed on CMS : How can we bypass template application?

2012-12-17 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 17, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Alternately you could write a positive regexp and a pass_thru view to view.pm a'la sub pass_thru { my %args = @_; open my $fh, $args{path} or die Can't open

[DISCUSS] Recourse for Sites Which Do Not Acknowledge Trademarks

2012-12-22 Thread Dave Fisher
One of the ways that sites that offer downloads of Apache OpenOffice (or OpenOffice.org) often do is: (1) Don't acknowledge that the trademarks are the Apache Software Foundation's. (2) Make use of the project's and ASF's resources to offer free support and other downloads. They simply hide

Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!

2012-12-25 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: FWIW; It also came to my memory that there was the idea to attempt merging at least some of the documentation from MWiki to CWiki by using this plugin:

Re: FYI: Wiki performance.

2012-12-27 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi JanI, Thanks for your work here! On Dec 27, 2012, at 12:47 PM, janI wrote: the Wiki is very slow these days, it is NOT because of spam attack, but actually something positive. We have loads of users, seeking all kind of information, according to the access log. Does anyone have

Re: [discussion] Buildbot standard a.o or our own.

2012-12-31 Thread Dave Fisher
! And THANK YOU JAN for your hard work! Your contributions are appreciated! Regards, Dave Jan i Den 31/12/2012 19.23 skrev Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net: Hi Andrew, On Dec 31, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 12/31/2012 2:09 AM, janI wrote: Is there a reason why we use our own

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

2013-01-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Michael, I like the logo - a lot. I have a problem with the video that is significant. You are using the same music that Microsoft is using for its Surface Advertising on TV. Also, at the end you are using a non-standard Apache Software Foundation logo and feather placement. Although we

Re: What does supported mean for us?

2013-01-01 Thread Dave Fisher
HI Rob, I like your emphasis here on Supported. Let's discuss support in terms of actual process and precisely what are official releases vs. user convenience releases. Both of which are VOTED, but only the source code release can be completely vetted by all of the project. The convenience

We Need One - Fwd: DOAP

2013-01-02 Thread Dave Fisher
HI Andrea, We need to fill out a project DOAP file in order to be listed on www.apache.org on the bottom left. Regards, Dave Begin forwarded message: From: Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org Date: January 2, 2013 5:28:58 PM PST To: gene...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: DOAP

Re: [PROPOSAL] lazy consensus for new News scrolling

2013-01-03 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Here's is the latest/final draft for the proposed new user portal web site home page incorporating News scrolling: http://www.openoffice.org/test/ I like it. Great work. I am invoking lazy consensus for this change. If I hear no complaints

Re: Can't Escape the CAPTCHA Cats on MIki

2013-01-04 Thread Dave Fisher
Maybe you all are on different browsers? Good luck herding these cats ... a little cat cha cha. Regards, Dave On Jan 4, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi all, I run into the same problem. I do not get my page saved. In the help text for that captcha it is mentioned, that there

Re: [PROPOSAL] lazy consensus for new News scrolling

2013-01-07 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: snip Since this is the visitors first impression of the project, I wonder if it is worth exploring

Re: Is there consensus on latest MS Office formats?

2013-01-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Hello all, I'm back on the dev mailing list because there are some interesting topics sometimes. But no further involvement in the AOO project anymore. Before AOO

Re: Bug list in release notes: why bugzilla account needed?

2013-01-14 Thread Dave Fisher
The solution is already found on the Forum. Here is a shortened version of the long unsaved version. http://s.apache.org/xLN Regards, Dave On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi - Works for me without

Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - OpenOffice.org -- Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-15 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 12.01.2013 00:39, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/11/2013 03:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 1/10/13 3:56 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 10.01.2013 11:55, Rony

Re: svn commit: r1435127 - /openoffice/symphony/trunk/README

2013-01-20 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Rob, Would you please discuss this change. Thanks, Dave On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:24 AM, robw...@apache.org wrote: Author: robweir Date: Fri Jan 18 13:24:28 2013 New Revision: 1435127 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1435127view=rev Log: Remove reference to the redundant file list

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Since this has come up recently, I'd like to point you

Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 21, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rob Weir robw

Re: OpenOffice on Wikipedia (was: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays)

2013-01-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 21, 2013, at 7:02 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: David Gerard wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Take a look at the lovely new page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice Some choice bits of distortion: Thanks for publicising this. I really did mean I wanted more eyes on it.

Re: RAT scans: Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-23 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; - Messaggio originale - Da: Jürgen Schmidt If we are distributing code there it is our responsibility. I am afraid there are also tarballs that deserve special consideration. I recall we were carrying a GPL'd

Re: Draft blog post: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2013-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
LGTM! I would not wait very long to publish it. Regards, Dave On Feb 1, 2013, at 4:39 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: I drafted a short article on what's coming at FOSDEM this weekend. You can find the draft at https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_openoffice_at_fosdem_2013

Re: [bikeshed] I like blue titles.

2013-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Feb 1, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hello; I know this can easily become the biggest bikeshed ever ... Can we change the red title in the website (Call for Volunteers, as of lately) to dark blue? The reasons:

Re: [bikeshed] I like blue titles.

2013-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
. Regards, Dave TMCM On Feb 1, 2013 9:43 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Da: Dave Fisher ... Can we change the red title in the website (Call for Volunteers, as of lately) to dark blue? The reasons: - The tone of red chosen looks like

Re: svn commit: r1441658 - /openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext

2013-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
FYI - Announcement wording change Regards, Dave On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:13 PM, w...@apache.org wrote: Author: wave Date: Fri Feb 1 23:13:28 2013 New Revision: 1441658 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1441658view=rev Log: Annoucement wording change Modified:

Re: [bikeshed] I like blue titles.

2013-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Thank you Dave! It's still perfectly visible without being too scandalous. I like it. Now for a new bikeshed ... I would use Volunteers wanted, instead of Volunteers needed

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
The next shed to bike ;-) On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:21 PM, w...@apache.org wrote: Author: wave Date: Fri Feb 1 23:21:23 2013 New Revision: 1441659 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1441659view=rev Log: No clear link back to www.openoffice.org Modified:

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
for OpenOffice and that is great! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Dave Fisher

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
I have no problem with the change that you made, and I said so in my initial reply. My problem is the way that you characterized it. You can be more polite. For example, I like the link you added, but I think that the (R) is not correct and so I removed it... That is all I'm going to say

Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?

2013-02-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: You can see our current Bugzilla taxonomy here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/describecomponents.cgi We have around 50 top-level

Re: Bugzilla -- Any interest in enabling categories?

2013-02-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 5, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: You can see our

Re: $21 million per day

2013-02-06 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Rob, This is great information. It makes me very proud to be a part of Apache OpenOffice. This is something that should be part of our next board report. It is probably worth discussing if this is press release material with Sally at press@ Thanks and Regards, Dave On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:43

Re: $21 million per day

2013-02-06 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Sally, Please see this message thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201302.mbox/%3CCAP-ksoiJx5QqRvAQpHTJJ2_VasPCji9gTi4R3PH8bg_ntwkJ9A%40mail.gmail.com%3E Rob is working on a blog post, but I think that this is something worthy of an ASF press release as it shows

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-06 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Is there any recommendation/objection on this? After hsqldb I would like to move on to lucene. In this case, it would be nice to investigate if lucence can be replaced by clucene, this will reduce the need of installing Java for

Re: Proposal: How we should handle committer vetos and reverts in the future

2013-02-15 Thread Dave Fisher
Rob, Please count how much of the emails in these inordinate threads are your emails. Please review the following: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html Thank you. Regards, Dave On Feb 15, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Rob Weir

Re: The Great Bugzilla Taxonomy Cleanup

2013-02-16 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 16, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Would someone please add my login to the editcomponents group so that I can follow the links

Re: Branding Refresh For AOO 4.0 [Closing in 72hrs]

2013-02-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello AOO Dev and Marketing Community, The main subject of this e-mail is to call for an end date to proposals. In 72hrs (saturday) we will be closing branding proposals. - - - - - I am heading up the branding effort for the AOO 4.0

Re: Branding Refresh For AOO 4.0 [Closing in 72hrs]

2013-02-21 Thread Dave Fisher
(Note this discussion is going to be difficult because we are posting between two lists.) Adding back marketing, who are doing wonderful work. On Feb 21, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:13

Re: Branding Refresh For AOO 4.0 [Closing in 72hrs]

2013-02-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: (Note this discussion is going to be difficult because we are posting between two lists.) Adding back marketing, who are doing wonderful work. Look at http://flex.apache.org/. It might be an inspiration for someone. Regards, Dave

Re: Interesting blog post on Crowd-funding of open source development

2013-02-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 22, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Looking at how these sites are actually being used, it looks more like: 1) Users offering monetary

Re: Draft blog post: Call for Documentation Volunteers

2013-02-25 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_documentation_volunteers Looks good. Did

Re: Review Board

2013-03-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project. Otherwise I think it becomes yet another system to learn how to use. On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Rob Weir wrote: https://reviews.apache.org I didn't know that this existed at Apache. Should we be using it? -Rob

Re: Review Board

2013-03-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 8 March 2013 22:16, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit

Re: suggestion for another cwiki change..new

2013-03-09 Thread Dave Fisher
I am personally fine with whatever you do along the lines of surfacing current planning efforts and archiving old efforts. For cwiki articles that should be moved to Mwiki then perhaps a For MWiki category would make sense. If you need someone with full confluence admin rights let me know, I'm

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: From my perspective, Jörg's concern is very simple. There are actions and arrangements that have been made that encourage

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Dave Fisher
Top post. There is no consensus here to eliminate or reset the votes. Some who are more in touch with users have stated that it would be harmful. I trust their judgement. Issues that are recent that get votes should be discernible by developers looking at BZ. Any issue with a lot of votes

Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-20 Thread Dave Fisher
In these situations it is best to get on irc #asfinfra and ask in general about it. Imacat might be there but there is usually at least one infra person on line. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Hagar Delest wrote: It has worked

Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-21 Thread Dave Fisher
The community still needs a LAMP / MySQL sysadmin to check the tuning so that connection leaks don't take it down later (or sooner) If someone in the project did the work we should be informed. Thanks, Dave On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:14 AM, FR web forum wrote: Well, the forums are fluids now

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-22 Thread Dave Fisher
This has win, win, win all over it! Does this allow 4.0 to co-exist with 3.4.1 or LO? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: Great work Jürgen, I am impressed. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document:

Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-03-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Mar 29, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Robin Fowler robin.fow...@outlook.comwrote: Due to the opinions I've seen so far I've decided to make a new design:

Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-03-29 Thread Dave Fisher
, Dave On Mar 29, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: If you go with a stylized feather, please check with trademarks@ a.o. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 13:52 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org

Re: [Website] Re-locate images from download/images/ to images/

2013-03-31 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Marcus, On Mar 31, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Hi Rob, I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for images. Therefore I've added the images from download/images also to images/ and updated the download/index.html to point to the new location.

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-03 Thread Dave Fisher
I'm going to top-post. I agree that this is a good idea, but I want to define it expansively as a positive. (1) The current authz that defines all of the AOO committers must be preserved. This is used to generate foundation information like:

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Dave Fisher
be part of the disease, not the cure [;). - Dennis -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 08:57 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN Dave

Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations

2013-04-04 Thread Dave Fisher
We can easily copy the Donate button from the footer to the topnav. We can request that l10n teams add a translated donate button for their language. If they haven't translated their brand and topnav now would a time to do so. We would want to translate the fundraising page, too. Is this a

Re: [Website] Re-locate images from download/images/ to images/

2013-04-04 Thread Dave Fisher
All image directories and img links can be discovered and converted in an offline checkout of the site. It could be automated. Different image files of the same name can be diffed. It is all discoverable. Doing it manually is a mess. I discovered this during the ooo-site port from Oracle's

Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-04-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:02 AM, janI wrote: On 5 April 2013 16:52, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:37 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 5 April 2013 14:50, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com

Re: wiki, forum, www performance upgrade.

2013-04-06 Thread Dave Fisher
On Apr 6, 2013, at 2:51 AM, janI wrote: Hi. Now that our wiki (mwiki) runs smoothly and performs quite well, it is slowly time to take a look at our other services. In order to determine what should/can be done, I need some figures. Can anybody help me with traffic figures for

Re: Draft blog post: Welcome GSoC Students!

2013-04-09 Thread Dave Fisher
On Apr 9, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/09/2013 11:46 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

Re: Official survey service? (Was: Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo)

2013-04-20 Thread Dave Fisher
On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:37 AM, janI wrote: On 19 April 2013 13:48, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:39 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 19 April 2013 13:29, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:20 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On

Re: HTML5 animation module for impress

2013-04-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Apr 22, 2013, at 2:13 AM, Andre Fischer wrote: On 22.04.2013 09:03, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Idea is pretty simple, with impress you can generate swf files with the slides from Impress. The animation code was broken for several ages. However, swf format has been somewhat fall on

Re: Translation for AOO 4.0

2013-04-26 Thread Dave Fisher
Guys, http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html And if you are posting so many times in a single thread then I wonder if the purpose is immolation or what? The oxygen is certainly sucked out of what is an important decision - the community decision about releasing and when. We should go

Re: tech support

2013-04-27 Thread Dave Fisher
This query was moderated into the list. I've included Martin in the response. On Apr 27, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Martin Obrien pingjock...@ameritech.net wrote: I am trying to get help with a sudden aberration I am experiencing with

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN -- KEYS Compromise Exposure

2013-04-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: @Daniel, Right, this is about poisoning the committer keys but not touching the SVN, instead, counterfeiting a binary release downstream, but faking the asc, md5, and sha1 too. (These would not be at dist, and depend on folks not

Re: restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp.

2013-04-30 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, I have confirmed that this particular header does not occur anywhere else in the active codebase. Regards, Dave On Apr 30, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Marc Rabell wrote: Thanks for clarifying Andre. Regards, Marc Marc Rabell twitter https://twitter.com/mrabell |

Re: Crowdfunding revisited

2013-05-02 Thread Dave Fisher
A caution and something to keep in mind and I am speaking from experience. Payment to a developer for working on a feature must not be tied or made contingent on that feature becoming part of the product. The developer ultimately has no control over the inclusion of a feature in a release.

Re: Results from AOO 4.0 Logo Poll

2013-05-06 Thread Dave Fisher
On May 6, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Donald Whytock wrote: On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: I personally wouldn't lose any time redesigning the visual identity UNLESS the new design is clearly superior with the old one, and there's concensus that there's

Re: Request for Blog Access

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Don, You should have received your invitation. Regards, Dave On May 15, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: Hi Marcus/Dave... I have a Roller account now, and my proposal went through for blog access. Please grant blog access to dwhytock. Thanks... Don

Re: Official code signing certificate

2013-05-24 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Rob, This is a very well written summary of the situation with Code Signing. The main concern that the ASF has with digitally signing with a singular apache.org certificate for the whole foundation is keeping it in strict control. For some this means physical machines. This is a high bar.

Re: [RELEASE]: proposed further schedule towards AOO 4.0

2013-05-27 Thread Dave Fisher
On May 27, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:58 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 27 May 2013 17:17, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to discuss our further schedule towards AOO 4.0 and the problems I see. And I would like to

Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection

2013-05-27 Thread Dave Fisher
On May 27, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [This was cross-posted, so I'm not clear what list was intended. Makes tracking the discussion difficult.] I'll bite: I prefer Chris's latest. The weight of the lettering is more powerful. I think the Apache should not be so

Naming and Trademark Concerns

2013-05-27 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I just now reviewed Jürgen's latest snapshot build and I have some trademark concerns. The current UI and Help file seem to be out of Apache Branding policy[1][2] in two ways. (1) The most prominent use of the brand in many place is OpenOffice when it ought to be Apache OpenOffice. This

Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection

2013-05-28 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, Kevin's book birds use perspective drawing techniques and converge on the horizon. They are going somewhere. The standard gulls are more like two birds in the standard wingman formation. OpenOffice is your wingman to take you where you want to go. Regards, Dave On May 28, 2013, at 10:12

Re: Naming and Trademark Concerns

2013-05-28 Thread Dave Fisher
On May 28, 2013, at 3:03 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 5/28/13 4:12 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On May 27, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi - I just now reviewed Jürgen's latest snapshot build and I have some trademark concerns. The current UI and Help file seem

Re: New BZ Component: General/Legal

2013-05-29 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Rob, On May 29, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Description is: Issues related to NOTICE, LICENSE files, trademarks or similar legal or policy

Re: updates.openoffice.org

2013-06-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 5, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:50 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 5 June 2013 17:43, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:34 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 5 June 2013 16:48, Rob Weir

Re: Draft blog post: When will OpenOffice version X be released?

2013-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 8, 2013, at 5:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 06/06/2013 Rob Weir wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=when_will_openoffice_version_x Since we get this question frequently, I thought it would be good to have a canonical response we can point people to. It's

Re: Location for logo source?

2013-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Certified DEVs

2013-06-09 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 9, 2013, at 7:36 AM, janI wrote: On 9 June 2013 16:04, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed that LibreO has 26 Certified Developers. http://www.documentfoundation.org/certification/developers/ While we have the concept of a committer here at AOO is there something

Re: Certified DEVs

2013-06-09 Thread Dave Fisher
post. This could also point to our full committer count to show that the project values all contributions. We can also emphasize that at the ASF it is individuals and not companies that are contributing. Regards, Dave On 9 June 2013 17:24, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 9

Re: Congratulations to Andrea and Andrew!

2013-06-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 11, 2013, at 9:20 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Both Andrea Pescetti and Andrew Rist were among those elected as new ASF Members. Congratulations for the well-deserved recognition! -Rob YES! Congratulations

Re: Article on the Register

2013-06-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 11, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM,

Re: AOO 4.0 Logo: We're not done yet!

2013-06-20 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote: In case you are not following the discussion on the dev list, Juergen, the 4.0 Release Manager, has proposed an endgame schedule for the AOO 4.0 release:

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote: Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: Hi Rob, I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly. I'm with you, that we have to make

[PROPOSAL] Language Specific Third Party Pages

2013-06-22 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - To make it official and so that we are all clear. The following rules apply to links to third party products and related new announcements only. (1) Have a project wide 3rd party page in English. (2) Each language community may choose to have a separate 3rd party page. (For example a

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote: Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt

[DISCUSS] Contributing Existing Works [Was: Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites]

2013-06-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 21, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Peter Junge wrote: On 6/21/2013 9:59 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] What is the problem? The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project. It was not reviewed and approved for release by the project. It is a

Re: Mercurial repository at hg.services.openoffice.org

2013-07-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 6/27/2013 9:00 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: The Mercurial repository at http://hg.services.openoffice.org/ is no longer current but it is still useful since it contains important historical information. It is still hosted by Oracle and

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