RE: Compiling Symphony

2012-11-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Can there please be some priority given to the IP cleanup of the Symphony section of the SVN so it is safe for others to begin working on it? It is in an untouchable state in its present form, especially if folks want to merge changes and fixes in preparation for integration of bits from it.

Symphony IP Cleanup (was RE: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation)

2012-11-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I don't think deleting the files of the Symphony contribution is a constructive step. You overstate things. There is no IPR issue here. The IPR is set by the SGA

RE: Symphony IP Cleanup

2012-11-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It has nothing to do with whether anything from the Symphony donation is ever released in AOO. The code has been donated and it should have its IP cleaned up. Also, the history is not needed. It is simply the headers and notices on the code as donated that is a problem. There are simple

RE: Symphony IP Cleanup

2012-11-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
All that is required to clean up the headers is to have some sort of official permission from IBM to ASF that allows it to be done. That or an IBM-employed committer needs to be identified as authorized to do it. The basic requirement is under Source File Headers for Code Developed at the ASF

RE: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013, 2-3 February 2013, Brussels

2012-11-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It seems valuable to have the CFP available here also: https://staging.fosdem.org/2013/news/2012-11-01-cfp/ - Dennis -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 09:22 To: annou...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Apache

RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0

2012-11-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Is this to be based on the Symphony code? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 01:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time

RE: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice

2012-11-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Just go to http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ and browse around to confirm that everything you are interested in is there. (Are you thinking of the l10n under openoffice/branches ? It does appear that all of openoffice/ooo-site and openoffice/site are there.) - Dennis

RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0

2012-11-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 14:25 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Remember, we wrote it. Well, I suppose the notion of work for hire might

RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0

2012-11-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
to happen? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 14:57 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 I don't think the web site situation is an equivalent. I also don't think

RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0

2012-11-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I don't think the web site situation is an equivalent. I also don't think the choice of base for integration of Symphony features

RE: [UX] UI options for document encryption

2012-12-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Please see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121141 in addressing security vs protection in the UX also. 1. CHOICE OF ENCRYPTION ALGORITHM It is important to appreciate that there is no recommendation about AES for the ODF 1.2 manifest:algorithm-name. The only mandated algorithm

RE: [UX] UI options for document encryption

2012-12-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
used is not itself protected in a secure way and a valuable password should not be reused for this purpose. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 10:26 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE

OpenOffice 3.4.1 is Compatible with Windows 8

2012-12-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I was running the Windows 8 Update advisor on my Windows XP SP3 Tablet PC to see what was incompatible with Windows 8. (I learned that the machine itself is incompatible - the processor chip does not have NX and Windows 8 will not install on it.) But the prize, scrolling down the

RE: Blog post

2012-12-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I agree with Rob's suggestion. Crowd-sourcing some tests would be great. The test suites tend to require a version of the algorithm that can be run standalone inside the test harness. The ScRandom() code could be transcribed to a clean C implementation that would be usable. It could be

RE: AOO questions on Google

2012-12-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Concerning Microsoft Office interoperability, I suspect the absence of a way to save documents in OOXML formats is a detractor from Apache OpenOffice 3.4. There are the usual interchange fidelity issues as well, depending on which interchangeable formats are used. - Dennis -Original

RE: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

2012-12-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I particularly like the symbols for the individual applications as featured in the video. The simplicity is great, and those will make great buttons as file-system icons and in other applications of the unified symbols. Thanks for bringing your creativity to this effort. The results are

RE: first look at a scrolling News column...

2012-12-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The scroll bars aren't that bad. They will work reasonably well working with a touch screen/pad too. One suggestion: It's helpful if news items are always be dated [;). - Dennis -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 15:06

RE: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

2013-01-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am not so sure that jamendo covers of popular tunes are free to use, since songwriter royalties are required to be paid in the US. I doubt that Bob Dylan has granted royalty-free use of I Shall Be Released, for example. In general, it works better if freely-licensed original compositions are

RE: typing formulae in writer

2013-01-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
With a document open in Writer, type the text normally, including any inserted symbols. Then select any adjacent characters that you want to be positioned differently (super- or sub-). Use the Format | Character ... selection from the menu bar. On the Character dialog, select the Position

RE: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I started looking through this. There probably needs to be a flag, because there are inappropriate sources and this is an opinion piece in the ways Rob has noticed. While browsing, In the prelude, the Apache License is described as among the weak copyleft licenses. It is not, and weak

RE: In case you missed it: The OpenOffice Wikipedia page was FUD'ed over the holidays

2013-01-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I agree, Gerard has impeached himself with regard to any interest in or grasp of the facts, etc. Maybe he'll declare that DOA AOO to be a zombie that has eaten 30 million brains in 2012. I don't think there is much that makes someone ineligible to edit, but it certainly makes the result

RE: Assigning Issues to the issues List?

2013-01-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 08:26 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Assigning Issues to the issues List? Hi, Am 18.01.2013 um 23:52 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org: I just noticed these changes on issues to clear out old bug assignees. I recall

RE: Enabling QA Contact field in Bugzilla?

2013-01-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 09:17 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; q...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Enabling QA Contact field in Bugzilla? Any objections to enabling the useqacontact field in Bugzilla? Per the BZ doc:

RE: An idea: Add option to delete profile when uninstalling

2013-02-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 04:09 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: An idea: Add option to delete profile when uninstalling As I've been reviewing the backlog of defect reports submitted by users I notice a lot of

RE: An idea: Add option to delete profile when uninstalling

2013-02-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 - covers the bases. -Original Message- From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 12:39 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: An idea: Add option to delete profile when uninstalling Am 02/01/2013 01:19 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Fri, 1

RE: [improvement idea] in-place editing of Input Fields in Writer

2013-02-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For real input fields, (that is, form:text elements), direct entry works. I assume that the case being discussed is for conventional field values that someone wants to edit. (Like a page number or a date field in a footer.) In those cases, I suppose direct entry might be useful. But there is

RE: Changes that Impact Backwards Compatibility

2013-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks for adding this. I have added a Calc and OpenFormat Support subsection there, with description of the proposed change to have POWER(0,0) produce an error value (#VALUE!) instead of 1, the current result. That is explained on the Release Notes and at the Bugzilla Issue #114430 at

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It is not clear that OpenOffice-lineage software has returned the same value for POWER(0,0) over the years. It seems that a third-party library has been relied upon for the implementation and there was apparently not much attention to edge cases. If that library changes or is different on

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, 2013 16:57 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0 On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: It is not clear that OpenOffice-lineage software has returned the same value for POWER(0,0) over the years

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
...@apache.org Subject: Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0 On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: It is not clear that OpenOffice-lineage software has returned the same value for POWER(0,0) over the years. It seems that a third-party library has been relied upon

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't see how this discussion impacts the results of SERIESSUM. The nice aspect of SERIESSUM is that it specifies precisely what the result should be. So long as no exponents are negative, it requires that SERIESSUM(0;...) be either c[0] or 0 depending on whether or not 0 is included in the

RE: Will AOO write .docx?

2013-02-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For some reason, I failed to consider this question until some restless sleep this past weekend. My understanding is that the improvements in OOXML handling are to be made available under the ALv2 license. However, if those are in the form of patches, their usefulness to AOO will depend on

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
This is not a vote. There is a statement about what is acceptable mathematically that I cannot leave unchallenged. However, that is different than what might or might not be acceptable computationally for a give case and I continue to refrain from reiterating any argument about that. -

OT: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
is. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 14:24 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0 This is not a vote. There is a statement about what is acceptable mathematically

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
RESOLUTION OF THE PROPOSAL The proposed change was made under CTR (Commit then Review). There has been a subsequent review and, as Don points out, the discussion has been lengthy and vocal. The objective is to achieve consensus. I believe it is clear that there is no consensus on the proposed

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Hawking has explained how the change would be incorrect and no example where someone has been affected by this change has been provided. Has the patch been vetoed, and if so on what basis? Pedro. Da: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org A: dev

RE: :Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I did not test with your patch. I reported on behavior of available releases. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 19:42 To: rabas...@gmail.com; dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: :Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

RE: [improvement idea] in-place editing of Input Fields in Writer

2013-02-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
in Writer Hi, On 15.02.2013 00:44, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: That's odd. I created a form:text-input field and it showed me an entry window right in the document where I put it. I could then simply type into the box that was part of my document. That is, in fact, what I expected. Hm... I

RE: [improvement idea] in-place editing of Input Fields in Writer

2013-02-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: That's odd. I created a form:text-input field and it showed me an entry window right in the document where I put it. I could then simply type into the box that was part of my document. That is, in fact, what I expected. Hm... I do not know form:text-input - I did

RE: Problems with import of OOXML custGeom command arcTo in import of .pptx

2013-02-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
In case it is not clear where conventions arise in conjunction with prefixes on XML qualified names, it is the namespace that is bound to the prefix that establishes the convention. The prefix choice is relatively arbitrary (but one must avoid unintentional collision with a prefix that is

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I've been sitting on this in draft since Thursday because the two vetoes from Kay and Rob seemed to have been sufficient and I didn't want to pile onto Pedro. Pedro, it seems to me you are not paying attention. I agree that the veto should have left the patch to be reverted yourself, and the

RE: Solving this 0⁰ issue correctly (was Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0)

2013-02-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 This builds on an initial suggestion by Andrea Pescetti. Introduction of spreadsheet settings for compatibility selections needs to be done carefully. The usability needs to be handled in a way that doesn't confuse anyone. I think it is a great way to deal with the interoperability cases

RE: Solving this 0⁰ issue correctly (was Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0)

2013-02-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't want to get into this. I think enough has been said. I do want to avoid anyone misunderstanding what the ANSI/ISO Standards for C and C++ say about pow(0,0) however. In general, C/C++ pow(0,0) is left implementation-defined. There may be a domain error (this is an

RE: Solving this 0⁰ issue correctly (was Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0)

2013-02-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I earlier quoted the applicable (and only) texts from the Standards themselves, particularly C++ and also the latest C Standard (2011 and C99 with all Technical Corrigenda through 2007). No matter what is said about pow(0,0) in the C99 Rationale v5.10 Appendix F of April 2003, there are no

RE: Solving this 0⁰ issue correctly (was Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0)

2013-02-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, 2013 14:08 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: Solving this 0⁰ issue correctly (was Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0) On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I earlier quoted the applicable (and only) texts from the Standards

RE: Branding Refresh For AOO 4.0 [Closing in 72hrs]

2013-02-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
At the ASF, 72 hours is a *minimum* time. And it is polite to step past known holidays and weekends as well. There needs to be some clarification here on how Apache projects do not have designated teams and voting is something that happens after extensive discussion (both on the dev list). The

RE: Draft blog post: Call for Documentation Volunteers

2013-02-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 I admire these introductions. They strike me as very inviting. - Dennis -Original Message- From: RGB ES [mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 13:56 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Draft blog post: Call for Documentation Volunteers 2013/2/25 Rob

RE: My wish!

2013-02-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
On Microsoft Windows, the Input Methods are handled at the Operating System level. I don't doubt that there are apps that use their own, but the system-wide IMEs are very handy. - Dennis MORE DETAILS For any chosen language one can specify what is the current OS display language, the

RE: Strategic Planning: Website

2013-03-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't think entropy is the proper term. The physicists version that I learned was in the following form: 1. You can't win. 2. You can't even break even. 3. And you can't get out of the game. I think an appropriate concern, here, has to do with technical debt. The longer the technical

RE: Strategic Planning: Website

2013-03-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Apachecon. Pity the AOO contingent was small this time round. On Mar 1, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I don't think entropy is the proper term. The physicists version that I learned was in the following form: 1. You can't win. 2. You can't even break even. 3

RE: Strategic Planning: Website

2013-03-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 14:53 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Strategic Planning: Website [ ... ] And let's not forget alternative ways of addressing this concern: 1) Work with Infra to make MWiki be

RE: Strategic Planning: Website

2013-03-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Are list threads and Community Wiki topics being confused? -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 15:44 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Strategic Planning: Website On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:15 PM, janI j...@apache.org

GRANT OF LICENSE: Dennis E. Hamilton

2013-03-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
contributions and such of those that survive in derivatives. I represent that I am legally entitled to grant the above licenses and make those contributions that I offer to ASF projects. March 8, 2013 Dennis E. Hamilton 4401 44th Ave SW Seattle, WA 98116 USA dennis.hamil...@acm.org orc

RE: Dual licensing of patches and code

2013-03-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It is not clear to me that the Apache OpenOffice statement answers the question as it was asked at [tdf-discuss]. I read Jim's question as being about multi-licensing (dual- or more). Not about a contributor making a contribution of their original work in two places and under different licenses

FW: GRANT OF LICENSE: Dennis Hamilton LibreOffice contributions

2013-03-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 19:48 To: LOffice Developers List (libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org) Cc: 'disc...@documentfoundation.org' Subject: Grant of License This grant does not specify any particular open-source license. My

RE: FW: GRANT OF LICENSE: Dennis Hamilton LibreOffice contributions

2013-03-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: FW: GRANT OF LICENSE: Dennis Hamilton LibreOffice contributions On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I have made this grant known to The Document Foundation and the LibreOffice project. The TDF notification appears at http

RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office

2013-03-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Reina, I am going to attempt a fresh install of Symphony to see if I can duplicate the problem. I will be installing on Windows Vista (x86) in a Virtual Machine. It has no Java installed. I will remove OpenOffice 3.4.0 and also perform a full security scan before I install Symphony. I think

RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office

2013-03-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
it successfully. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 11:03 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: 'Waldorf PC' Subject: RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office Reina, I am going to attempt a fresh install of Symphony

RE: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
From my perspective, Jörg's concern is very simple. There are actions and arrangements that have been made that encourage certain expectations in the mind of persons who participate and contribute in various ways. And when those expectations are unsatisfied, that leads to assessments and

RE: What I miss a bit at the project

2013-03-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 There's also the problem of synchronicity. Living in gmt-0800 (now gmt-0700 until the end of October), it is very difficult to find an useful window. And if I am not present, I am not aware and have no available record. The Apach lists and procedures recognize the need for asynchronous

RE: A question about existing practices

2013-03-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
: Thursday, March 21, 2013 02:10 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: A question about existing practices On 3/18/2013 11:12, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... - Dennis PS: My all-time favorite unreconcilable voted-for issue is the request for Reveal Codes in the manner of WordPerfect. Hi

RE: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

2013-03-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The server is GPL and the JavaScripts that run in clients, Outlook, etc., are Creative Commons attribution-share-alike-noncommercial. None of that is Apache friendly. More information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-Xchange. The licenses apply to different parts of the code base. From

RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office

2013-03-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
505-382-2641 -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 13:09 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: 'Waldorf PC' Subject: RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office A. I was able to install Symphony 3.0.1 and the Fix Pack 2

RE: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There are two parts to the extensions for writing aids. I think there is some serious low-hanging fruit for improving how this works. MATERIAL INSTALLED IN THE PROGRAM SPACE. The last time I checked, some writing aids and extensions that are bundled and considered part of a distro are

RE: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-Original Message- From: Ariel Constenla-Haile [mailto:arie...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 16:27 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1 On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 01:59:07PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote

RE: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I support the 1, 3, 2 prioritization. With regard to the first item (1) below, Microsoft Office 2013 Access is now provided with the Office 365 Home Premium subscription and all Office 365 Business subscriptions that include the current (now 2013) Microsoft Office desktop applications. With

RE: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I share Regina's concern for the use in teaching and for casual database purposes. I'm not so sure how much SQL is a determining factor. I also sympathize with not wanting a required Java dependency, especially for a built-in component of the suite. However, the cooperation offered by the

RE: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'm not clear why a non-LDAP solution is required: 1. Being a committer is specific to a project. What it means to be a committer on a project is very well-defined. 2. The SVN repositories of the public ASF projects are publicly read-only. That's a no-brainer. They are only writable to

RE: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
My sense of this is that there is a desire to reduce the threat surface of the SVN by requiring committers to opt-in. (I assume there is some way to decide which committers to grandfather.) Apparently, that is a one-time act and it doesn't alter being relatively inactive. So I guess this

RE: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
You're *still* understating the extent of the ceremony. They had to go through everything a subsequently-invited committer had to do, even though Sam Ruby provided the initial instructions. But thanks for mentioning the iCLA. That is an useful object to have on file in tracking down a

RE: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-04-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
- compatibility with previous ODB files needs to be kept for a long long time. Damjan On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.orgwrote: The link to OpenOffice.org Base is interesting. I wonder if the decision about SQLite (or a variant) should be reconsidered for a re

RE: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I believe this is the only list to be concerned about: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice Those are the only Apache committers who have karma for the OpenOffice project. Notice that there is a separate list for the PMC:

Strange OSI Certification Claim

2013-04-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
While looking around for some PDL-licensed content on www.openoffice.org, I stumbled onto this page: http://www.openoffice.org/product/index.html. I find this statement, at the bottom of the page, quite challenging: • Certified by OSI(http://opensource.org/docs/definition.php)

RE: New license for libwpd, libwps, libwpg

2013-04-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Licensing issues have not been entirely removed, http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b. Code with Category B MPL license is accepted in ASF projects under very specific restrictions. Having to build the code from source, especially with modifications, is problematic. - Dennis

RE: New license for libwpd, libwps, libwpg

2013-04-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 08:11 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: New license for libwpd, libwps, libwpg On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.orgwrote: Licensing issues have not been entirely removed, http

RE: New license for libwpd, libwps, libwpg

2013-04-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
: New license for libwpd, libwps, libwpg On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.orgwrote: @Rob, Thanks. That is a great summary of what is involved. I am curious, in the case of libwpd, how binaries would be obtained and what the inclusion mechanism would be. E.g

RE: INFO: OpenOffice help authoring

2013-04-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I favor the idea of rethinking the Help system. I also think that it needs to be decoupled as much as possible from the AOO 4 staging, doing the least that works for AOO 4.0. The mechanism should allow incremental upgrading and evolution that does not require synchronization with releases in

RE: INFO: OpenOffice help authoring

2013-04-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:02 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: INFO: OpenOffice help authoring On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox

RE: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN -- KEYS Compromise Exposure

2013-04-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Today, I did some digging around with respect to a different project and I noticed a vulnerability that had not been discussed: 1. Assume that the credentials of an Apache OpenOffice Committer are compromised (or the committer goes rogue). 2. This allows the compromised/rogue credentials to

RE: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN -- KEYS Compromise Exposure

2013-04-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
: Daniel Shahaf [mailto:danie...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 15:58 To: Dennis E. Hamilton Cc: dev@openoffice.apache.org; pesce...@apache.org Subject: Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN -- KEYS Compromise Exposure Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Mon, Apr 29

RE: CMIS Universal Content Provider (UCP) for Apache OpenOffice

2013-05-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Your questions are great! Kibitzing ... BROAD CONSIDERATIONS If the CMIS repository supplies MIME type as an attribute, it would be useful to (tentatively) rely on that, especially for directory presentation. The ultimate confirmation, for ODF documents, will be with the magic numbers at

RE: Completed Infrastructure Module

2013-05-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Vanita, That is a great question. When I upgraded my Windows 7 system to Windows 8, I had to uninstall VC++ 2008 and 2010. I have installed the Visual Studio Express 2012 for Windows 8, but have not attempted a build with that configuration and its VC++ command-line compiler. There are

RE: Question about: OpenOffice Calc. =-1^2 like expressions

2013-05-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Without concern for rationale, it is part of the ODF 1.2 OpenFormula syntax that unary minus has precedence over all binary operators. It is not uncommon for there to be such a rule in programming languages (C/C++, Java, and JavaScript, for example). Some languages that have an

RE: Question about: OpenOffice Calc. =-1^2 like expressions

2013-05-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Yes, NOT A BUG is definitely preferable to INVALID. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 02:56 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Dennis Hamilton Subject: Re: Question about: OpenOffice Calc. =-1^2 like expressions [ ... ]

RE: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection

2013-05-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[This was cross-posted, so I'm not clear what list was intended. Makes tracking the discussion difficult.] I'll bite: I prefer Chris's latest. The weight of the lettering is more powerful. I think the Apache should not be so thin. The form used by Samer works better. I also think

RE: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection

2013-05-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@Kevin, It never occurred to me that those were flying books. Taking another look, it still doesn't work. If made more obviously as books, I'm not sure how that will occur as indicative of an office productivity suite. (I have no idea how birds in flight do that either, but it is probably

RE: [RELEASE][TRANSLATION]: changes to the README file for 4.0

2013-06-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 The version-specific path on the site is also a fine way to locate the check-for-update target, since the release has its release version. It can also have human-readable (and localized) pages that provide update information to someone who visits on-line. The default page at those

RE: [RELEASE][TRANSLATION]: changes to the README file for 4.0

2013-06-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
++1 One-click access, Yay!! - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 06:44 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [RELEASE][TRANSLATION]: changes to the README file for 4.0 On Jun 1, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Dennis E

RE: [Discuss][Wiki]Synchronizing (or not) localized wiki sites [was: Fwd: [UserGuide]My roadmap]

2013-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@JanI, Uh oh. If you don't have explicit agreement from the contributor(s) to a page concerning it being offered under a different license, either leave the existing license or remove the content. Those are the only legally-sanitary options for works still under copyright. Declaring a work

RE: [Discuss][Wiki]Synchronizing (or not) localized wiki sites [was: Fwd: [UserGuide]My roadmap]

2013-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 I prepared my response before I saw this one. There is still need to be careful around this: However, when we create new material, including enhancements Of existing material, then we need to respect the ICLA which says our contributions are made under ALv2. This might

RE: [Discuss][Wiki]Synchronizing (or not) localized wiki sites [was: Fwd: [UserGuide]My roadmap]

2013-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
(or not) localized wiki sites [was: Fwd: [UserGuide]My roadmap] On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: +1 I prepared my response before I saw this one. There is still need to be careful around this: However, when we create new material, including

RE: Error using svn (Building in Win7)

2013-06-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Sometimes it is simply necessary to do a cleanup of the working copy and then start an update, assuming the check-out got anywhere. These are sometimes simply synchronization glitches. If the check-out failed completely, I'd delete that aoo-trunk folder and start over. Another problem that

RE: MIMEType of folder

2013-06-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If you are talking about content items within an ODF Package, whether a path is considered that of a folder is determined in the ODF Package manifest.xml file. The manifest.xml file will specify the MIME TYPE of the collection of items having the same path in the beginning of their file names

RE: CMIS URL scheme

2013-06-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Is this of any assistance in terms of what you might need to be told to access any given repository, and what is then discovered from the repository: http://docs.oasis-open.org/cmis/CMIS/v1.0/os/cmis-spec-v1.0.html? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rajath Shashidhara

RE: OpenOffice 3.3 and Java 7

2013-07-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There are some prospective problems with OpenOffice.org 3.3 that need to be ruled-out/verified: 1. OpenOffice.org may not recognize 64-bit versions of the JVM, depending on which JRE you have installed. 2. OpenOffice.org, in part of its detection of available JREs, may be looking for Sun as

RE: Need a simple question answered.

2013-07-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If you are on Windows, CTRL-END and CTRL-HOME do that. These are considered common behaviors for all applications with scrollable windows. It is odd that it is overlooked in Help and other documents. -Original Message- From: rosanne kosson [mailto:rkos...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday,

RE: [UX][DESIGN EXPLORATION] - flat application icons

2013-07-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Another option would be to ditch the single gull and have a flat orb in the upper left corner, in its original colors. The desktop icons might need to be toned down a bit to not clash. Likewise for the document icons, which don't scale well with those gradients. (Also, when did OpenOffice get

RE: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer and then copy it. Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the clip-board? Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation. I can test this in Windows 8 x64. - Dennis -Original

RE: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
to replace it with the same version or not.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de] Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 01:34 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Dennis E. Hamilton Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit Hello Dennis, it's as you said, you

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: OpenOffice 3.3 and Java 7

2013-07-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
- From: Steele, Raymond [mailto:raymond.ste...@lmco.com] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:29 PM To: Andrea Pescetti; dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Dennis E. Hamilton; 'Don' Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: OpenOffice 3.3 and Java 7 Who completed the OpenOffice 3.3 Solaris x86 build? It seems that we could

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