Re: Is there consensus on latest MS Office formats?

2013-01-08 Thread Hagar Delest
Hello all, I'm back on the dev mailing list because there are some interesting topics sometimes. But no further involvement in the AOO project anymore. Before AOO starts to try such OOXML filter, I think it would be interesting to have a global consensus about what is intended about OOXML.

Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 10/01/2013 13:57, Rob Weir a écrit : If we have not figured out exactly what causes the current OOo 3.3.0 - AOO 3.4.x profile migration problems, how are we certain that these problems will not come back when we migrate AOO 4.0 to AOO 4.1 ??? +1. Even a brand new install leads to profile

Bug list in release notes: why bugzilla account needed?

2013-01-14 Thread Hagar Delest
Here is a message on the forum about the necessity to have a login to view the list of the bug fixes: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=58749 Indeed, why is it mandatory to have an account to view the bug list? This is not user-friendly. Can the policy be changed? Hagar

Re: OO / unsubscribed posters

2013-01-14 Thread Hagar Delest
Again, few had noticed that OP was not subscribed. There had been talks some weeks ago about changing the headers to make a dedicated one for moderated messages since the delivered-to header was not designed to be used more than once in a message. But no change after the list address change.

Re: Bug list in release notes: why bugzilla account needed?

2013-01-14 Thread Hagar Delest
(hi hdu@ :) recently wrote a nice script that crosschecks bugzilla issues with commits so the situation will improve greatly in the near future. Pedro. Da: Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net A: dev@openoffice.apache.org Inviato: Lunedì 14 Gennaio 2013 15:42

Re: file extender odm conflict

2013-01-14 Thread Hagar Delest
FW to OP, not subscribed... Hagar Le 14/01/2013 20:42, Rory O'Farrell a écrit : On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:09:15 -0800 Toby Fouks tfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi -- I have just had to uninstall open office because downloads from overdrive [public library audio books] are also odm files, and there

Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0

2013-01-14 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/01/2013 12:06, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit : Does exist a description (may be inclusive a blob of the former user profile) to reproduce the problem? Sadly, no. XP seems the version where it occurs the most. Next time I'll try to make a copy of the whole profile. Hagar

Re: Bug list in release notes: why bugzilla account needed?

2013-01-14 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/01/2013 22:44, Dave Fisher a écrit : The solution is already found on the Forum. Here is a shortened version of the long unsaved version. http://s.apache.org/xLN This return no hit at all. Hagar

Re: Bug list in release notes: why bugzilla account needed?

2013-01-14 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/01/2013 22:35, Dave Fisher a écrit : OK. On the wiki page change the bugzilla search to https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?namedcmd=Resolved341ReleaseBlocker No login required. This returns more than 500 hits. Here is the link found by acknak on the forum:

Re: OO / unsubscribed posters

2013-01-15 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/01/2013 23:45, Rob Weir a écrit : We do, however, have one option, a more extreme one. That would be to disallow posts from non-subscribers altogether. So keep the dev list for subscribers only and get on with our work. And use another list, like users, where anyone can post. Then the

Re: An annoying autocorrect

2013-01-18 Thread Hagar Delest
Hi, See: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=5777 Hagar Le 18/01/2013 21:33, Megan Pedone a écrit : I don't think it's a bug, and I don't want to subscribe to anything to report it, but it's incredibly frustrating that the only way I could use i.e. in my document was

Re: OO / unsubscribed posters

2013-01-26 Thread Hagar Delest
Suddenly after I installed Thunderbird 19 b1, my filter for unsubscribed users worked again for the dev list! has anyone noticed that? The weird thing is that it works for the dev list but not for the users list. The filter applies before the mail are redirected to the relevant folders (one

Re: convert voice to text

2013-01-27 Thread Hagar Delest
Beware, OP is not subscribed. Hagar Le 27/01/2013 12:48, Jürgen Schmidt a écrit : On 1/26/13 11:02 PM, mostafa bahaloo wrote: hi dear i study in ITI university . my project is to develop extension for liberoffice program in linux open suse that can convert voice to text , only to make

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-01-31 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 31/01/2013 00:10, Rob Weir a écrit : This is a great step, Andrea. Apache OpenOffice has many Linux users. We see this in the download numbers. But today the install experience is, like many things in Linux, more complicated than the average immigrant from Windows-land is accustomed to.

Re: Open Office

2013-02-02 Thread Hagar Delest
See this tutorial: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71t=1221 As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at us...@openoffice.apache.org - replies to my personal email address will

Re: crashes due to corrupted user profile [was: Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0]

2013-02-04 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 04/02/2013 12:20, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit : I got an influenza the 18th which knocked me down for 8 days. Funny, I got mine on 22nd! Back in the office last week I need to renew my complete system - harddisk crash. Funny again, my in-laws machine got a problem too. I could

Re: Sidebar color scheme survey

2013-02-04 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 04/02/2013 16:39, Mechtilde a écrit : I did the download today and tried to install it on my Debian Testing (Debian 7.0 Wheezy) which become stable in the next time. This didn't work because there is glibc in version 2.13 and not 2.15. There will be no change up to the release date. On my

Re: crashes due to corrupted user profile [was: Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0]

2013-02-06 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 06/02/2013 09:03, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit : BTW, does the above given workarounds work on your side? Sadly, it's the profile of the machine that got its Windows XP partition unusable anymore. So can't say. But I keep the information in mind and will check next time I see a corner

Re: Problem with the API forum

2013-02-08 Thread Hagar Delest
Could you make clear about what forum you're talking about? I checked the EN forum and there is no user with your mail address (I checked with the address used for the dev list but also your first name and last name alone). Hagar EN forum admin team Le 07/02/2013 22:57, Yessica Brinkmann a

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-10 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 10/02/2013 00:43, Rob Weir a écrit : Spreadsheets are used by businessmen and not only mathematicians. I think that very few mathematicians use AOO at all. Even in the industry (in which I work for almost 15 years), MS Excel is not used to perform high level calculations. Even the nice

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-10 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 10/02/2013 16:30, Rob Weir a écrit : It does not follow that if real mathematicians do not use spreadsheets, that making breaking changes does not have consequences. That logic is nonsensical. I said that the consequences would be very limited. And that using mathematicians using

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-10 Thread Hagar Delest
Indeed, I've seen. But not much for the moment. But Of course, the proposal seems a good one. Hagar Le 10/02/2013 17:26, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : On 10/02/2013 Hagar Delest wrote: you don't mind breaking the backward compatibility of the whole extensions eco-system? See: http://www.mail

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-10 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 10/02/2013 17:07, Rob Weir a écrit : But it is not question of mathematics. It is a question about how we make controversial changes and how we keep the ecosystem informed about breaking changes. Hiding behind one (but not the only) mathematical convention for this calculation avoids

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-10 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 10/02/2013 21:16, Stuart a écrit : Both of you have perfectly reasonable points. Why don't we simply make it configurable whether POWER returns one, zero, or some error? For reasons of backward compatibility we could return the value one as default, and if the user wants better MS Office

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-10 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 10/02/2013 21:34, Rob Weir a écrit : This is NOT a complex math problem. It is trivial one, with three perfectly valid answers. Debating among them is merely a time-wasting form of bikeshedding. Everyone and his little sister has an opinion on 0^0. Then you should update the wiki page to

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-10 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 10/02/2013 21:21, Rob Weir a écrit : Did you not notice the title of this thread? Has it entirely escaped you that we're talking about 0^0 here? If you want to start another threat about extensions, then go ahead and I will comment there. But anyone of the intelligence of a grapefruit would

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-10 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 10/02/2013 21:53, Rob Weir a écrit : The error in your thinking is to persist in arguing that there is only one correct answer. That is false. I can point to mathematical authorities of great reputation to argue for any of three answers. The question is whether we change from the correct

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-10 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 10/02/2013 21:57, Rob Weir a écrit : Just because I don't hijack this thread to discuss an unrelated issue does not mean anything. I am also against torture, high public debt and rap music, but that does not mean I am going to discuss them in this thread. And it certainly does not mean that

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-11 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 11/02/2013 05:57, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak a écrit : I usually want things to just work. If an arbitrary value is used, and it is not brought to my attention, I may not be producing the answer that I really want. Not returning an error gives me a false sense of security. That's precisely

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-11 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 11/02/2013 09:13, Andre Fischer a écrit : We should change the ODF spec first instead. A spec that basically says whatever you want to return is fine is of no value, as was proven in this thread. This is something that I would only accept from a random() function. +1. That's also what

4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

2013-02-11 Thread Hagar Delest
You certainly have seen from the 0^0 discussion that I have raised the problem of the backward compatibility with 4.0 and extensions. In fact, it affects only the extensions with a custom toolbar. But except the dictionaries, I guess that it makes a good deal of them still. The problem has

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-11 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 11/02/2013 21:40, Rob Weir a écrit : Again, you are looking for the one true answer and declaring that other answers are wrong. No. Even if my personal inclination is for the undefined result, I can understand the value 1. But let the user decide and just warn him that he's facing a corner

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

2013-02-11 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 11/02/2013 22:46, Rob Weir a écrit : My impression was that even if we made no changes, from the user's perspective, they would lose all extensions. This is due to the change in base directory for the profile. So all extensions would be lost and need to be reinstalled. So there will be no

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-12 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 12/02/2013 22:31, Marcus (OOo) a écrit : Some facts from the issue itself: - open since 2010-09-09 - only 2 votes (from author of comment #2) Now 4 with mines. Hagar

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-12 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 12/02/2013 00:45, Fred Ollinger a écrit : Another idea is to return 1, but have a popup which says: We are returning 1 to 0^0 due to backwards compatability, but we this might change in the fure. Click here to never show this warning again and continue to return 1. Also, you can use strict

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

2013-02-12 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 12/02/2013 13:05, Rob Weir a écrit : I don't know. I was asking a question. But I think this is an important question: Why would an extension author not update their extension for AOO 4.0? Some hypothetical answers: 1) The extension is unmaintained One of the top reasons I guess. I

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

2013-02-12 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 12/02/2013 23:22, Rob Weir a écrit : But again, if you think that situation never comes up in real use, then let's not make the change, since it would have no benefit. You don't seem to see the benefit of the change: warn the user that there is something weird in the formula that requires

Re: crashes due to corrupted user profile [was: Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0]

2013-02-27 Thread Hagar Delest
For the record, another positive case after the reset was not enough: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=59794 Hagar Le 14/02/2013 09:42, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit : Hi Hagar, On 10.02.2013 21:32, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 06/02/2013 21:21, Hagar Delest a écrit : Le

Re: Vote now for 2013 Readers Choice Awards (About.com)

2013-03-05 Thread Hagar Delest
+1 for AOO. Hagar Le 04/03/2013 22:10, Rob Weir a écrit : We've received four nominations in About.com's 2013 Readers Choice Awards. In the category of Office Software we've been nominated for: -- Your Favorite Office Suite for Windows

Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-12 Thread Hagar Delest
Hi, The forums have been running rather slowly recently. There are even error messages on the FR forum. Right now I can't reach the EN forum... And I confirm the error message: General Error SQL ERROR [ mysqli ] Too many connections [1040] Could someone have a look please? TIA Hagar

Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-15 Thread hagar . delest
It should be much higher on the EN forum. The 294 figure (statistics information at the bottom of the forum index page) is an instantaneous measurement. Hagar De : FR web forum But, in FR forum, we have specific statistics. In 2012: average of 6,892 visits per day In 2013 (for 3 first

Re:Apache OpenOffice Extensions Website 2.0 (beta)

2013-03-15 Thread hagar . delest
Really AWESOME! A huge step forward regarding the interface. Many thanks for this improved site. Hagar Message du 15/03/13 19:53 De : Roberto Galoppini A : dev@openoffice.apache.org Copie à : Objet : Apache OpenOffice Extensions Website 2.0 (beta) As announced back at the end of December

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-16 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/03/2013 15:10, Rob Weir a écrit : But if only a small minority of users know about voting, and we have a large collection of ancient votes, then the votes are less meaningful and relevant. That's my main concern. I don't believe that the vote counts necessarily reflect current reality.

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-17 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/03/2013 12:41, Rob Weir a écrit : I'm not sure votes from 2002 are the most accurate way of determining what users want. For example, I think we'd agree that the most-critical issue in 3.4.1 is the profile-related crash. But the Bugzilla issue for this has received *zero* votes:

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-17 Thread Hagar Delest
17/03/2013 15:32, Rob Weir a écrit : On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 14/03/2013 15:10, Rob Weir a écrit : But if only a small minority of users know about voting, and we have a large collection of ancient votes, then the votes are less meaningful

Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-19 Thread hagar . delest
Forums are down again. Same error. Maybe for one hour now. Hagar Laposte.net, messager officiel du Rallye des Gazelles en 2013 ! Pour suivre le Rallye Aïcha des Gazelles et soutenir les participantes, cliquez sur www.laposte.net/thematique/rallye-des-gazelles

Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-19 Thread hagar . delest
Don't know if imacat has noticed. I'd PMed and mailed her about this topic a while ago (for the findings that had been given at the beginning). Not sure if Drew can do something also (may be to early for him). This makes around 3 hours off by now and USA is waking up... Hagar Message du

Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-19 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 20/03/2013 00:02, RGB ES a écrit : ES forum is working at normal speed too. EN seems fine too. According to the statistics, that made almost 11 hours down. Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-20 Thread hagar . delest
Forum back but not very stable. Hagar Message du 20/03/13 10:22 De : Rory O'Farrell A : dev@openoffice.apache.org Copie à : Objet : Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040]) On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:07:01 + Rory O'Farrell wrote: En Forum down again just now.

Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 20/03/2013 17:01, FR web forum a écrit : If this is going to be a regular occurrence Sorry but the best thing to do is to fix this issue. Since a couple of days, I asked to check the MySQL max_connections parameter. Somebody did it? With each passing day, we lose users that search some help

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Top post. Since it's rather clear that there will never be any agreement about this, why doesn't PMC start a [Vote]? This topic is eating energy for nothing. There is no point arguing furthermore. If I understand correctly the problem (even if it was not exactly the initial point from Jörg),

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 20/03/2013 22:03, Rob Weir a écrit : My take away from the thread was that the preference is not to do anything, and in effect continue to ignore the votes. Whether they are reset or ignored is immaterial to me. I'll just work on better and more accurate ways of getting user feedback, that

Re: What is our current best recommendation for 3.4.1 random crashes?

2013-03-21 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 21/03/2013 17:58, Rob Weir a écrit : But I think of it this way -- If AOO is crashing repeatedly for the user then they are unlikely to continue using the product. So if disabling the update notifications fixes their problem, then it is a good thing. Sometimes it is not enough and in

Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Hagar Delest
Nice. I use to dock Stylist and Navigator. When the Sidebar is docked below one of them, if you hide it and then display it (with View menu), it doesn't takes its previous place but almost all space of the panel, reducing the room left for the other panel. Hagar Le 21/03/2013 21:14, Regina

Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-22 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 22/03/2013 07:10, Juergen Schmidt a écrit : currently work is ongoing to integrate the gallery. The navigator and stylist should be also integrated. But there are of course questions how exactly. Some users might prefer to have both visible and docked, how would it be in the sidebar? We

Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-22 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 22/03/2013 13:10, Rob Weir a écrit : I know it upset some when I said it originally, but this is why I said in the website strategic plan wilki page that one of our biggest risks is: Sustainability concerns due to our use of unsupported applications (from Apache Infra perspective), including

Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-23 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 22/03/2013 23:35, Rob Weir a écrit : On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: But there is something I don't catch: the forum has been running fine for the 5 previous years. Has any change been made to the system recently? I can't see why it should

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-24 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 24/03/2013 18:34, Rob Weir a écrit : What is the advantage to the user? I don't think users care about the directory structure. This is an internal implementation detail. So It doesn't change much for the user but it does bring more consistency for the GNU/Linux platform as said at the

Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-24 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 24/03/2013 18:45, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit : The real-time word count is useful on the status bar, as in this extension (demo): http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/sdk-examples/trunk/cpp/components/StatusbarController/WordCountStatusbarController/ +1 to implement word

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-25 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 25/03/2013 17:37, Andre Fischer a écrit : - Easy control over the feature set that is shipped with OpenOffice. This is something that we use extensively for dictionaries. +1. I know about the dictionaries. But basically I think that we should keep the bundled dics as few as possible and

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-25 Thread Hagar Delest
Constenla-Haile a écrit : On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 09:41:18PM +0100, Hagar Delest wrote: +1. There are some advanced features that are of no use for me (like those related to Impress). In the past I could deactivate them (in 3.4.0 IIRC). But well, perhaps there is no real gain to remove the extension

Re: annoying input field popup

2013-03-26 Thread Hagar Delest
Adding OP in CC since not subscribed. Have a look at: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=33737 As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at us...@openoffice.apache.org or

Re: updating Splashscreen

2013-03-26 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 26/03/2013 15:05, Rob Weir a écrit : But I think we should align with the user's thinking at this point. They've launched OpenOffice, presumable *to do a task*. They are not researching the license. They are not looking to find out the list of OpenOffice contributors. They have work to do

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-03 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 03/04/2013 15:13, Rob Weir a écrit : 3) We have those who are voted in as committers and might access other, non SVN systems. They use their Apache ID's to write blog posts, access Pootle directly, or maybe even just the SMTP servers. But they never touch SVN at all. I'm one of these

Re: wiki, forum, www performance upgrade.

2013-04-08 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 08/04/2013 20:36, janI a écrit : Is anyone considering giving wiki/www/forum a facelift parallel to the launch of 4.0. We should really make them more look alike and a lot more moden. If we look at other similar products they have much more modern looks. Do you have some examples for the

Re: wiki, forum, www performance upgrade.

2013-04-24 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 23/04/2013 23:26, Rory O'Farrell a écrit : We've had a couple of weeks of GA on the Forums, so here is what I'm seeing: Forums: Peak is 72K pages per day, low 42K per day (weekend) Wiki: Peak is 32K pages per day, low 20K per day So looks like a 2:1 ratio. Less than what I expected, but

Re: wiki, forum, www performance upgrade.

2013-04-24 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 24/04/2013 21:12, janI a écrit : I cannot judge the effect of the global slowdownbut someone (me) had a look at the mysql, and did a couple of obvious small changes, however we still have a general httpd/mysql tuning outstanding, the configs seems to have been done independently. I will

Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!

2013-04-24 Thread Hagar Delest
Small question: what is the point having a nice/renewed main logo when the application icons and their mime type icons are so outdated??? What users do really see are the application/MIME icons (in menus and in their file browser), not the main logo that splashes a split second... The previous

Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!

2013-04-24 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 24/04/2013 23:05, Rob Weir a écrit : The fact that we're doing one thing now does not mean we won't also do other things later. As it says in the survey introduction, this is part of an overall brand refresh effort. Other pieces will occur as well, but not all at once and certainly not all

[Sidebar] Win / Linux: layout difference of the color picker?

2013-05-03 Thread Hagar Delest
Hi, I face a display glitch on the AOO dev build, see this bug report: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122198 Armin kindly proposed a workaround (thanks!) but I'm wondering if there isn't some difference of behavior between Windows and GNU/Linux (it works fine by default on the

Re: [Sidebar] Win / Linux: layout difference of the color picker?

2013-05-04 Thread Hagar Delest
OK, thanks. Can't see what's going wrong with my version (even with a brand new profile). Perhaps it has been fixed in a later build. Will try. Hagar Le 04/05/2013 00:09, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : Mechtilde wrote: Under Debian 7.0 I can't see that problem. the display is the same. Same

Re: [Sidebar] Win / Linux: layout difference of the color picker?

2013-05-05 Thread Hagar Delest
For the record, works fine indeed with latest snapshot (AOO400m1(Build:9700)). Will have to change my palette to fit the 12 columns layout. Hagar Le 04/05/2013 11:01, Hagar Delest a écrit : OK, thanks. Can't see what's going wrong with my version (even with a brand new profile). Perhaps

Re: [Sidebar] Win / Linux: layout difference of the color picker?

2013-05-06 Thread Hagar Delest
for the standard web colors): http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=14529#p272445 Hagar Le 06/05/2013 10:59, Armin Le Grand a écrit : Hi Hagar, On 05.05.2013 10:54, Hagar Delest wrote: For the record, works fine indeed with latest snapshot (AOO400m1(Build:9700)). Will have to change

Re: [sidebar] request for defect confirmation

2013-05-06 Thread Hagar Delest
Confirmed on: AOO400m1(Build:9700) 2013-05-03 07:08:08 (Fri, 03 May 2013) - Linux x86_64 Ubuntu 13.04 (64bit) Highlight color is displayed in Draw, Calc and Impress. Hagar Le 06/05/2013 14:17, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit : Hi, while investigating issue 122047 I figured out that the

[Sidebar] Customization / features worth displaying

2013-05-06 Thread Hagar Delest
Haven't filed any report about that yet, just some thought if you think they are worth something: - Customization: is it intended to make the sidebar customizable like the toolbars? - Among the important features in the paragraph properties, I think that the Keep with next paragraph has its

Re: [Sidebar] Customization / features worth displaying

2013-05-07 Thread Hagar Delest
Done: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122250 Perhaps there should be a kind of brainstorming or poll about the features that should be in priority in the Sidebar. Hagar Le 07/05/2013 09:26, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit : Hi, On 06.05.2013 21:55, Hagar Delest wrote

Re: Forum administration: attachments limit

2013-05-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 20/05/2013 17:56, RGB ES a écrit : From a server point of view, which is a limit that can be considered as reasonable? I prefer to not delete old attachments, but that option is something to consider too... BTW, which is the attachment limit set on EN forums? On EN forum, limit is set to

Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection

2013-05-30 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 28/05/2013 00:55, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : PS: Interesting that we've come around to a close variant of the current logo. Well, rather disappointing I would say. So much energy lost for just so few changes... Perhaps it tells that there was no need to change the logo at all. Le

Re: [AOO 4.0]: migration of AOO 3.4.x/OOo 3.x user profile data - help needed

2013-06-04 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 04/06/2013 20:27, Juergen Schmidt a écrit : instead of complaining and requesting you could have joined the development and could have worked on one or more of your addressed issues. This is the way how open source works. The code is available and you can help to improve it. This is the

Re: [AOO 4.0]: migration of AOO 3.4.x/OOo 3.x user profile data - help needed

2013-06-04 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 04/06/2013 22:47, Juergen Schmidt a écrit : Well I am getting tired to repeat this again and again. Nobody should expect that others do what's necessary, Just do it yourself - it's a community project. That's the problem. It seems there are different levels of understanding for the

Re: [AOO 4.0]: migration of AOO 3.4.x/OOo 3.x user profile data - help needed

2013-06-05 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 05/06/2013 15:25, Andre Fischer a écrit : I think that you are mixing up your arguments. You may be right. - This thread seems to be a 'discussion' between developers---extensions developers and core developers---not between users and developers. I know. I stepped in because of a reply

Wrong OS detection on download page

2013-06-14 Thread Hagar Delest
I was checking the download process for MD5checksum verification and I noticed that the download page proposes a 64bit RPM file whereas my system is Ubuntu and should give a 64bit DEB. Hence when clicking the MD5checksum link, the wrong version is given. This should be fixed asap if we want

Re: Wrong OS detection on download page

2013-06-14 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 14/06/2013 17:58, Kay Schenk a écrit : On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: I was checking the download process for MD5checksum verification and I noticed that the download page proposes a 64bit RPM file whereas my system is Ubuntu and should give

Re: Forum registration refused for “invalid” email

2013-06-29 Thread Hagar Delest
Hi, There is indeed a Robert2 user with that mail, registered on Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:24 am (Europe, Paris time). If there is a problem with the forgotten password link, let me know. Hagar Le 29/06/2013 13:36, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : Robert wrote: Yesterday, I tried to register on the

Re: [WWW]There is no contact information on the wiki

2013-06-29 Thread Hagar Delest
For the record, in the past (before the move to ASF servers), each forum had a contact address with a special process: 1. All messages were sent to a moderator forum visible to mods only. A tag told if the mail address was registered or not. An other one told if it was not the first message

Re: upgrades on Linux...

2013-07-14 Thread Hagar Delest
I installed the RC on top of a dev version and had to use the --force-all parameter with dpkg (else broken pipe error message). Rather strange. I tried the import of my old 3.4 profile and it worked rather well. Of course the toolbars of my extensions were disabled but I could access the

Re: Release communications -- plans

2013-07-19 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 19/07/2013 16:56, Kay Schenk a écrit : On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 18/07/2013 Rob Weir wrote: The Release Notes are starting to look very nice. It is worth reviewing if

Re: [WWW]Forum landing page

2013-07-21 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 21/07/2013 15:36, janI a écrit : While I was in there I also checked the backup, there are no backup of the www only of the db. Meaning a dead disk and we can start from scratch. Is that really a wanted situation (considering it has been like this for years) ? What do you mean? I

Re: [WWW]Forum landing page

2013-07-22 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 21/07/2013 20:00, janI a écrit : I am not sure who is actively administrating phpBB. The phpBB group only contains imacat and terrye. Terry left so imacat is the only one. Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Release coordination proposal

2013-07-23 Thread Hagar Delest
OK, works fine now. Maybe a cache issue on my side. Hagar Le 23/07/2013 10:48, Hagar Delest a écrit : I don't understand: the banner on the AOO website says that 4.0 has been released but there is no download link. Going manually to Sourceforge still leads to 3.4.1. Hagar Le 23/07/2013

Re: Blog, forums and extension sites down

2013-07-24 Thread Hagar Delest
For the record, forums still down (9 hrs now). This and the signature with the new string 4.0.0 (and 4* to cover future releases) need a quick fix. Hagar Le 24/07/2013 17:39, Roberto Galoppini a écrit : 2013/7/24 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:33:13 +0200 Roberto

Re: Portable version (X-ApacheOpenOffice by winPenPack) updated

2013-07-24 Thread Hagar Delest
Huge thanks for such reactivity indeed. Not installed yet but will do tomorrow. Hagar Le 24/07/2013 13:53, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : The winPenPack volunteers already updated their portable version, X-ApacheOpenOffice, to version 4: http://www.winpenpack.com/main/download.php?view.1341 The

Fonts not installed in Windows 4.0 binaries?

2013-07-25 Thread Hagar Delest
For the record, it seems that the fonts usually delivered by default (in /share/fonts) is not in the Windows version. I do have it in my deb install on Ubuntu. I've filed a bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122835 We may have comments by users when bullet styles are wrecked.

Extensions need approval?

2013-07-25 Thread Hagar Delest
Related to this post: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=63081#p279610 It seems that a new version of the page related to the French dictionary needs to be approved. Does it take a long time? (anti-spam measure?) Current workaround is to go to the LibO site. The author

Re: Extensions need approval?

2013-07-25 Thread Hagar Delest
Works fine indeed. Many thanks fo rthe reactivity Roberto! Hagar Le 25/07/2013 22:54, Roberto Galoppini a écrit : 2013/7/25 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net Related to this post: http://forum.openoffice.org/** en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=**63081#p279610http://forum.openoffice.org/en

Re: [Personal][Discuss][UX] Legacy

2013-07-25 Thread Hagar Delest
Ah that one! See: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49t=21338 Never implemented. High emotional load so beware. Honestly, the sidebar is the perfect feature to have a similar behavior and a clever use of the screen real estate. NB: using MS Office (at work) with its ribbon for

Re: Extensions need approval?

2013-07-26 Thread Hagar Delest
to make sure there has not been any change that shut down that mail address! Hagar Le 25/07/2013 23:03, Hagar Delest a écrit : Works fine indeed. Many thanks fo rthe reactivity Roberto! Hagar Le 25/07/2013 22:54, Roberto Galoppini a écrit : 2013/7/25 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net

Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

2013-07-26 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 26/07/2013 01:50, Peter Junge a écrit : On 7/26/2013 12:18 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Pavel Janík pa...@janik.cz wrote: Rob, On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Rob Weir wrote: This is the advantage

Re: OpenOffice v.4.0.0 Lorem Ipsum extension glitch

2013-07-26 Thread Hagar Delest
If the extension has a toolbar, then it's linked to this problem: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg04066.html Someone has to tweak the extension for 4.0 compatibility. As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

2013-07-26 Thread Hagar Delest
authors want to make the change urgently? Hagar Le 13/02/2013 00:00, Rob Weir a écrit : On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 12/02/2013 13:05, Rob Weir a écrit : I don't know. I was asking a question. But I think this is an important question: Why

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