Re: What I miss a bit at the project

IRC is great and all, and I'm all for having as many channels as people feel a need for. Just keep in mind that the ASF approach to projects is to ensure that decision making is done in public and very openly. I think the implication of that is that most discussion that leads directly to a

Re: What I miss a bit at the project

, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Phillip Rhodes motley.crue@gmail.com wrote: IRC is great and all, and I'm all for having as many channels as people feel a need for. Just keep in mind that the ASF approach to projects is to ensure that decision making

Re: What I miss a bit at the project

. But it is not a panacea. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Phillip Rhodes [mailto:motley.crue@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 08:19 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: What I miss a bit at the project IRC is great and all, and I'm all for having as many channels

build error

occurred while making /home/prhodes/development/clones_not_mirrors_upstream_oss/openoffice/main/odk/pack/gendocu When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running: build --all:odk Thanks, Phillip Rhodes ~~~ This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM

Re: build error

at 9:51 PM, Phillip Rhodes motley.crue@gmail.com wrote: AOO crew: I'm trying to build the latest sources on Linux and am seeing this error. Any thoughts or suggestions on how to resolve this are much appreciated. patch ../../unxlngx6.pro/bin/odkcommon/docs/java/ref/index.html

Re: [VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO Chair.

[X] +1, Dennis Hamilton as new Chair This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: [X] +1, Dennis Hamilton as new Chair On 8/15/2015 11:57 PM, jan i wrote: This is a call for a formal vote among the 1

Re: build error

FWIW, that patch did indeed fix the build error I was seeing, so I endorse the idea of going ahead and merging that. Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 20/08/2015 Phillip Rhodes wrote: I ran

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

I just looked at the Wikipedia page and don't see anything that's - strictly speaking - incorrect, or lacking citations. IOW, I don't see any supportable rationale for removing anything that's there, although one could question the motives of whoever made it a point to call out some concerns

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

they'll > start looking for different office software. > > Max > > > > Am 03.09.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Phillip Rhodes: > >> I just looked at the Wikipedia page and don't see anything that's - >> strictly speaking - incorrect, or lacking citations. IOW, I don't

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

e one > this week too...someone changed it to "moribund". > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > Sorry, I missed the infobox when I looked at the page. You're right, > > having "Dormant" t

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

t;dormant" to describe AOO? "Dying" suggests > the project is in decline and will only continue to decline. Does anyone > here think "dying" is more accurate than, say, "Stalled"? > > Don > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Phillip Rhodes <m

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue@gmail.com> wrote: > David, this has nothing to do with marketing, and I honestly feel like you > are the one acting in bad faith here. This is about Wikipedia bein

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

David, this has nothing to do with marketing, and I honestly feel like you are the one acting in bad faith here. This is about Wikipedia being accurate, and the simple truth is, on a question like "what's the status of AOO" none of your "sources" are more accurate than a primary source like the

Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

So what, if anything, should we take away from this? My (completely superficial, naive and uninformed) feeling is that that is a LOT of traffic on the private list. But maybe not. Anyway, is the idea here that there should be less traffic on that list? More? The same? I have to admit, I've

Re: Merge with LibreOffice?

This isn't a competition to be "won" or "lost". AOO and LO aren't really competing. AOO is for people who want an awesome office suite that's licensed under a permissive license. LO is for people who want the same under a copyleft license. Two different audiences, two different projects.

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

PRISM On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 12:20 PM, toki <toki.kant...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 02/09/2016 14:59, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > > > What is the most important thing/things we could be working on? > > On your own hardware: > > Repeat: >Build a Mac OS X Binary; &g

What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

OK, counter-point to the other thread... let's talk specifically about what needs to happen next, given that some (plenty|most|all|???) of us want this project to continue moving forward. What has to happen next? What is the most important thing/things we could be working on? What could I do

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

evelopment it would take less of my time and energy to buy one of the > more powerful Macs and manage it directly. > > > > > On 9/2/2016 9:53 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > >> Sadly, I don't own a Mac. I use one at work, but all of my personal >> hardware >&g

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > Looking at it the other way round, for under $500 I could have a Mac Mini > with 500 GB hard disk and Mac OS Yosemite delivered on Sunday. That is less > than 10 months of macincloud. Is such a machine sufficiently

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

have only owned one Apple desktop, > the Apple II I bought in 1980. I took a dislike to Macs the first time I > tried one. > > > On 9/2/2016 10:32 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > >> No doubt. My problem on this is that I hate Apple, Macintosh, and >> everything to d

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote: > > > On 9/2/2016 10:21 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote: >>

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

> If you excuse the comment from an outsider, I suggest the question you > need to answer is: What can Apache OpenOffice offer that related > projects like LibreOffice cannot? > That's a good question. The one obvious thing, which matters to some people, but not others, is "be licensed under the

Re: The AOO build system

optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: > Am 09/02/2016 09:24 PM, schrieb Fernando Cassia: > >> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Phillip Rhodes<motley.crue@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> 6. Do

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Marcus wrote: > > >> The bad things are: > - we need a release manager for a 4.2.0 or 4.1.3 version. > - we need hardware to get builds for Wndows, Linux and Mac. > - we need a possibility to build on Mac (buildbot or an individual >

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

Welcome to the project, Ed. Don't sweat the lack of C++ experience. Not everything is in C++, and you can pick up the C++ knowledge as you go. I'm in a little bit of the same boat, as I *was* a C++ programmer - about 15 years ago. It's been quite a while for me, so I'm going to have to

Re: The AOO build system

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote: > Phillip Rhodes wrote: > >> >> 1. What is the main problem with the build system as it is? >> > > It's ugly. I recall you once built OpenOffice, right? It is not the easy

Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

> > > What alternative do you see? > > > There's no particular reason that I can see, that AOO shouldn't be able to produce secure software, issue releases and do all of those other things. We've done it in the past (and yeah, I feel guilty about saying "we" since I haven't been very active. Mea

Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

Wow, just wow. I have to say, I think even broaching this topic is a mistake. "Self-fulfilling prophecy"? Not even that, it'll be a "3rd party fulfilling prophecy" as soon as this hits the press. There are a lot of people out there who seem to have it in for AOO and have for a while... now you

Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

> (3) I think that working towards being able to release rather than patch > as Patricia has suggested is our best way to solve the security issue. The > quick patch is not much faster and has been proven to be more of a > challenge then kick starting the broken build process. > Forgive me for

Re: Release manager for 4.1.3

That's great news. Thank you so much! Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > I am volunteering to serve as release manager for 4.1.3. I may go on to be > RM for 4.2, but we can see about that later. > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Consolidating all the build guides

+1 This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Marcus wrote: > >> As I have now some experience on building OpenOffice, I've also seen >> that there are alot of wikipages that describe to some degree of detail

Re: Differentiate or Die

Sure, I don't claim it's a perfect analogy between "their" world and the world of F/OSS. But I think the broad point generalizes well enough to apply to us: Have *some* differentiating factor that defines why a group of people would find your product more desirable than the other options. If,

Another LWN article

https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/699755/533f89639e8b53f0/ and the associated HN discussion, although I'm the only commenter there as I type this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12456071 Phil ~~~ This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM

Re: [VOTE] Recommend Marcus Lange (marcus) as the New Vice President for Apache OpenOffice

> > > [X] +1 Approve > [ ] 0 Abstain > [ ] -1 Disapprove, with explanation > Phil

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

I like this idea... 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 in the near-term, and then 4.2.0 in early 2017. Feels like a good rhythm to aim for. Phil On Sep 15, 2016 15:14, "Marcus" wrote: > Am 09/15/2016 05:44 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: > >> I am rather amazed by the idea of 4.1.4, shouldn't

Re: Release process and 4.1.3

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > We also need something far, far more agile for getting simple bug fix > releases out quickly and easily. I propose using 4.1.3 as a test case for a > stripped down process. > +1 Phil ~~ This message optimized for

Re: Problem building AOO on Fedora 24

the svn checkout. Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: > Am 12/30/2016 05:06 AM, schrieb Phillip Rhodes: >> >> Never mind, I found the issue. I had to install package >> 'gdk-pixbuf2-

Re: Error: -- Include file apr_version.mk, not found

" and a clean rebuild should fix your problem. Damjan On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue@gmail.com> wrote: > Still trying to get AOO to build on Fedora 24 and this is what > I'm getting now. Anybody have any thoughts on this one? > > >

Re: Error: -- Include file apr_version.mk, not found

now, that does not use those switches, and - if I'm understanding correctly - will build APR as part of the AOO build. Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue@gmail.com> wrote: > OK, cool. I'll give it a

Another AOO build error - packcomponents

Hey gang, my build is making it further now, but still fails with this bit of weirdness. Any ideas on this? [prhodes@whiskey instsetoo_native]$ build --all:postprocess build -- version: 1775979 = Building module postprocess = Entering

Ambari build error

Ambari crew: I'm trying to build Ambari on Fedora 24, and am running into the following error. Hoping someone can help shed some light on what's going on. [INFO] [INFO] BUILD FAILURE [INFO]

Anybody else having trouble updating from SVN?

This just keeps getting better... I can't even do an svn up now. Abranches/ia2/main/bridges/source/cpp_uno/gcc3_linux_s390x Abranches/ia2/main/bridges/source/cpp_uno/gcc3_linux_s390x/makefile.mk Abranches/ia2/main/bridges/source/cpp_uno/gcc3_linux_s390x/share.hxx A

Problem building AOO on Fedora 24

Gang: I'm trying to build on a Fedora 24 box and am running into an error I haven't been able to resolve. Any help is much appreciated. When doing the ./configure step, I get this: checking which VCLplugs shall be built... gtk checking whether to enable GConf support... yes checking for

Error: -- Include file apr_version.mk, not found

Still trying to get AOO to build on Fedora 24 and this is what I'm getting now. Anybody have any thoughts on this one? Entering /home/prhodes/development/projects/upstream_oss/apache/openoffice/main/ucb/source/ucp/hierarchy Entering

Missing files running bootstrap

OK, I have a different error now. After running the configure script and sourcing the environment variables script, I try running ./bootstrap in the 'main' directory. I get this: ignoring CoinMP-1.7.6.tgz because its prerequisites are not fulfilled ignoring

Re: Missing files running bootstrap

/release-1.7.0.zip Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue@gmail.com> wrote: > OK, I have a different error now. After running the configure script > and sourcing the environment variables script, I

Re: Missing files running bootstrap

will be good. Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue@gmail.com> wrote: > OK, I have a different error now. After running the configure script > and sourcing the environment variables script, I try running

Re: Problem building AOO on Fedora 24

<dam...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi > > Please attach your config.log. > > Damjan > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 5:41 AM, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Gang: >> >> I'm trying to build on a Fedora 24 box and am running int

Re: Missing files running bootstrap

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue@gmail.com> wrote: > Hmm... for gtest, it looks like the issue is that the Google Code repo > now just redirects to GitHub so the old URL is no longer valid. Is > the file that we were pulling down a src bundle? If so, it

Re: New Build error Package Orbit is missing

Yep, I ran into that as well. In my case, just doing a quick "sudo dnf -y install Orbit2 Orbit2-devel" took care of that. Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Marcus wrote: > Am 01/04/2017 01:37 PM, schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

Unless there's some compelling technical reason for keep SVN, of which I am unaware, I am +1 on switching to Git. If nothing else, from an "optics" perspective it keeps potential new contributors from looking at the project and thinking "SVN? WTF? Why is this project using obsolete tech like

Re: [CLOSED] Was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 as GA

+1 I just want to say, this makes me very happy. I regret that I haven't had enough free time to make any real contribution myself, but massive props to everybody who made this happen! AOO lives on! :-) I still have some ideas for Calc I want to work on, so maybe I'll finally be able to carve

Re: Request re-instatement as an APache OpenOffice committer

Kay's back!! Yay! That makes me very happy. :-) Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > >> Hello Kay, >> >> I am sorry for the

Re: Bad news regarding future Java use?

I read that as only referring to the Java 8 SE binaries specifically. If I'm reading this right, users using a Java 9 or Java 10 SDK will still be fine. That just means we have an onus on us to make sure things work with the latest versions of the SDK. Phil This message optimized for indexing