Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-23 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-23 1:37 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: On 22/04/2014 Roberto Galoppini wrote: 2014-04-22 0:14 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti: http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html Andrea are you saying we should re-route RCs download requests coming from all referrals (but

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-23 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 3/7/14, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Evidently we're already released, on some websites at least: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml How much do we care about this? The risk, I suppose, is on Softpedia, that we could find a last-minute

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-23 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 3/7/14, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/7/14 4:21 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 07.03.2014 15:22, Rob Weir wrote: Evidently we're already released, on some websites at least:

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-22 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-22 0:14 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: On 19/04/2014 Roberto Galoppini wrote: Our aim I believe it's to expand our userbase, redirecting them to an openoffice page explaining which are the options might be a good thing. We can reuse, and possibly reword, this page

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 22/04/2014 Roberto Galoppini wrote: 2014-04-22 0:14 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti: http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html Andrea are you saying we should re-route RCs download requests coming from all referrals (but openoffice.org and sourceforge.net) to that page? That would be

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 19/04/2014 Roberto Galoppini wrote: Our aim I believe it's to expand our userbase, redirecting them to an openoffice page explaining which are the options might be a good thing. We can reuse, and possibly reword, this page then: http://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html This is

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 02/04/2014 Roberto Galoppini wrote: softpedia.com ... passes traffic through our download redirector flow ... we can indeed redirect this traffic by referrer to a different landing page if one is provided. Can't we just serve a 403? It's their problem, not ours. It's not rude at all, it's

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-19 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-19 16:21 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: On 02/04/2014 Roberto Galoppini wrote: softpedia.com ... passes traffic through our download redirector flow ... we can indeed redirect this traffic by referrer to a different landing page if one is provided. Can't we just

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/2/14 11:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/31/2014 11:56

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-03 8:52 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: On 4/2/14 11:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-01

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/3/14 12:09 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: 2014-04-03 8:52 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: On 4/2/14 11:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM,

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-03 13:09 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/03/2014 02:27 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-03 13:09 GMT+02:00 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org: On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-03 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 04/03/2014 02:27 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-03 13:09 GMT+02:00 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org: On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/03/2014 01:09 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/03/2014 12:57 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 4/3/14 12:09 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: 2014-04-03 8:52 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com: On 4/2/14 11:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-03 21:44 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 04/03/2014 12:57 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 4/3/14 12:09 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: 2014-04-03 8:52 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com: On 4/2/14 11:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM,

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/02/2014 06:52 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote:

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/02/2014 09:22 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-02 21:15 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 04/02/2014 06:20 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-04-01 21:30 GMT+02:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Mar

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-01 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 03/31/2014 11:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-04-01 Thread Jürgen Lange
+1 I like this way Am 31.03.2014 22:48, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-31 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote:

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-31 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de: Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-10 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/9/14 8:49 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 03/09/2014 07:33 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-10 Thread Andre Fischer
On 10.03.2014 08:32, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 3/9/14 8:49 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 03/09/2014 07:33 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote:

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 03/10/2014 08:32 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 3/9/14 8:49 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 03/09/2014 07:33 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote:

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 03/10/2014 08:57 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer: On 10.03.2014 08:32, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 3/9/14 8:49 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 03/09/2014 07:33 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-09 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 03/08/2014 12:29 AM, schrieb Vladislav Stevanovic: When somebody want to download beta version of AOO it will be good aproach to show pop-up dialog with warnings that this is not stable version and it only for testing. We can not stopped other to write what they write about AOO but we can

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-09 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/ Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email? Andrew's

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 09/03/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: The concern is for the inadvertent download of not yet released Beta which is available from the following URL space which is not even SourceForge: http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones Correct? No. The link Rob posted at the beginning of this

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-09 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 03/09/2014 07:33 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/ Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml Or maybe a disclaimer

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-07 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 07.03.2014 15:22, Rob Weir wrote: Evidently we're already released, on some websites at least: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml How much do we care about this? The risk, I suppose, is on Softpedia, that we could find a last-minute defect

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/7/14 4:21 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 07.03.2014 15:22, Rob Weir wrote: Evidently we're already released, on some websites at least: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml How much do we care about this? The risk, I suppose, is

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/7/14 4:21 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 07.03.2014 15:22, Rob Weir wrote: Evidently we're already released, on some websites at least:

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/7/14 4:33 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/7/14 4:21 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 07.03.2014 15:22, Rob Weir wrote: Evidently we're already released, on some websites at least:

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-07 Thread Chuck Davis
A water-mark on new documents that directs people to find official distributions on the web site? The water-mark will be taken off when AOO is out of beta and an official release is available. At the least this would require those who want to just redistribute know enough programming to make it

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-07 Thread Andrew Rist
On 3/7/2014 6:22 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Evidently we're already released, on some websites at least: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml Also, what of the Editor's review? It is derived from the IBM Lotus Symphony suite of applications... - not

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 March 2014 22:30, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: It is derived from the IBM Lotus Symphony suite of applications... - not correct https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/merging_lotus_symphony_allegro_moderato suggests this is not an unfair statement. Indeed, just rebasing on

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email? Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to be careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers, unfortunately. We can be

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

2014-03-07 Thread Vladislav Stevanovic
When somebody want to download beta version of AOO it will be good aproach to show pop-up dialog with warnings that this is not stable version and it only for testing. We can not stopped other to write what they write about AOO but we can protect potential users with info dialog when they press