Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-08-12 13:14, Paul Norman wrote: The usage policy for tile.openstreetmap.org requires that users send a valid user-agent[1], or, in the case of a web browser, a HTTP Referer. Ops are looking into automatically rate limiting clients violating this part of the policy.[2] I have wondered

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/12/2016 11:27 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: I would also like to point out that there might be a conflict of interest here between commercial operators of OpenStreetMap services, and the rest of the community. While in theory there could be a conflict, most of the admins do not sell tile

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Andy Allan
On 12 August 2016 at 12:34, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2016-08-12 13:14, Paul Norman wrote: >> >> The usage policy for tile.openstreetmap.org requires that users send a >> valid user-agent[1], or, in the case of a web browser, a HTTP Referer. >> Ops are looking into automatically

[OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Norman
The usage policy for tile.openstreetmap.org requires that users send a valid user-agent[1], or, in the case of a web browser, a HTTP Referer. Ops are looking into automatically rate limiting clients violating this part of the policy.[2] The reason for rate limiting instead of blocking is that if

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Komяpa
What are the plans to scale the tile provision infrastructure? If servers are overloaded, do we need a donation drive to buy new one, or are there known countries where we have bandwidth problems? пт, 12 авг. 2016 г. в 17:00, Andy Allan : > On 12 August 2016 at 12:34,

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Andy Allan
On 12 August 2016 at 16:32, Komяpa wrote: > What are the plans to scale the tile provision infrastructure? We should be clear here - we have more than enough capacity to handle all the traffic generated by our mappers, editing software and every website run by the OSMF, local

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 12 August 2016, Andy Allan wrote: > > We've always allowed other people to use our spare capacity on the > tileservers, but recently it's got completely out of hand. Most of > the use of our tileservers has become developers looking for free > maps, nothing to do with the rest of the

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 12 August 2016 at 19:11, Andy Allan wrote: > We've always allowed other people to use our spare capacity on the > tileservers, but recently it's got completely out of hand. Most of the > use of our tileservers has become developers looking for free maps, > nothing to do

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Simon Poole
Am 12.08.2016 um 20:27 schrieb Matthijs Melissen: > > I would tend to disagree. > > Our Articles of Association state: > > | 3. The Foundation is established for the purposes listed below: > | > | (1) encouraging the growth, development and distribution of free geospatial > | data; and > |

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Walter Nordmann
Hi, Matthiijs, | (2) providing geospatial data for anybody to use and share Data does not mean tiles. Companies may/should/have to dowload *osm raw data* (e.g. the planet file), to feed their local tile generation chain. regards walter ___ dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/12/2016 4:34 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: I have wondered about this. Does rate limiting now not occur? I have seen a lot of times that the map in the JOSM downloadscreen gets slow if you pan around a lot or use it a lot to download lots of small areas. Also the mapnik overlay has this issue.