[OSM-dev] Some more notes on OSM vector-tiling

2012-05-25 Thread Sandor Seres
Scale/zoom levels and tiling are essential for mapping servers, especially if pretending on streaming transmission model. In case of a vector/parametric data transmission service the scale levels’ generation and the tiling of these, as a rule, is performed in quite a different way compared to the

[OSM-dev] Anomaly detection. Ref Adam, Deric

2012-06-15 Thread Sandor Seres
Hi. Reading Adam's Anomaly detection spec and Deric's comments I take the liberty to make also some comments and some suggestions to Adam. I assume you are using the anomaly notion as a polite synonym for errors. As a political strategy this is fine but we should not close our eyes regarding

[OSM-dev] Coastline polylines to land polygons

2012-09-15 Thread Sandor Seres
As I can see this is a frequently discussed subject. The interest for the subject is especially high when doing streaming based mapping. I am one of these and doing the coastline-to-land conversion process frequently. So, let me allow a few related notes. If interested, you can find (and

Re: [OSM-dev] dev Digest, Vol 92, Issue 3

2012-11-04 Thread Sandor Seres
Hi K. Krueger and all the others working with vector tiling and vector rendering development and applications. Are we doing something illegal? Some well known large companies have got patent on more or less the same subject: Vector tiling and client rendering of tiled vectors. Look at these

[OSM-dev] OSM-dev] Determining if two linestrings are similar

2013-01-07 Thread Sandor Seres
Hi, You may call it similar or almost overlapping or ... probably meaning that two polygons, poly-lines or poly-line segments are so close to each other that they, with a very high probability; represent the same real-world object. There is a huge number of such cases in OSM source data producing

[OSM-dev] A dilemma, problem, challenge

2013-02-01 Thread Sandor Seres
Is there anyone out there having a suggestion, a model for a solution to the following typical mapping/cartographic problem: -Assume we have given two sets of area objects. For simplicity, let us call them L1 (large lakes) and L2 (small lakes). Also, for simplicity, let us use the topology area

Re: [OSM-dev] Coastline generalization tool and data

2013-02-13 Thread Sandor Seres
There is an explicate invitation to comment the tool and the results in the paper so, I take the liberty to do so and post some of the many potential comments. -That some thin, or small, area objects/portions spontaneously disappear when zooming out (scaling down) is natural and as a rule a

[OSM-dev] Coastline, lakes, rivers

2013-04-15 Thread Sandor Seres
I would like to suggest a bit more focus on the OSM source data related documentation and data quality. The many loose/fuzzy definitions (if they are definitions at all) allow wide freedom of interpretations. In turn, these interpretations are causing many (but really many) logical errors. As a

[OSM-dev] The OSM reference map/the default map style on osm.org

2013-08-30 Thread Sandor Seres
Hi, during the latest discussion-wave related to the default rendering stiles someone (I think Peter K.) used the notion reference map for the OSM Slippymap. If this is so, I need some help to understand - in what sense is this map the OSM reference map? 1. Is this the most correct map (the

[OSM-dev] HOW TO MAKE THE OSM RIVER SYSTEMS AND WHY?

2013-09-30 Thread Sandor Seres
The subject of this compact overview is complex and complicated stuff. With all details it would be enough for a book. Besides, it comes long before any coding. Also, the subject is probably more in solution architecture than in the application area. Therefor it might be of interest only for a

Re: [OSM-dev] Name suggestions for iD (Aaron Lidman)

2013-11-01 Thread Sandor Seres
Suggesting a correct and unified names to editors before their upload is just fine. But if you already have access to a selected name from an editor then probably you have access to the selected tags as well. So, the name in conjunction with the tags, as Serge suggested, could be used for

[OSM-dev] CHANGE DETECTION IN OSM GEOMETRY

2013-11-08 Thread Sandor Seres
I am not sure that I properly understand whether and how change detection happens in OSM source data and related applications (mapping systems like Slippymap layers, tiling services and so on) . I was through many related articles in OSM WIKI but the help was moderate. Yet, as I understand,

[OSM-dev] Two technology related questions

2014-01-30 Thread Sandor Seres
I am not sure am I in the right forum to ask the two tiling related questions here. If not, I do hope someone could redirect me to the right place/forum. As I understand the OSM raster-tiles serving system is one of the fundamental OSM services. Even the front page map (the SlippyMap and its

[OSM-dev] Am I alone here?

2014-03-05 Thread Sandor Seres
I am afraid I am irritating you folks with my focus on errors in the OSM source data. If so, I just apologize for that in advance. Of course, as in the science and research generally, it is much more attractive to work on something new than working on something already done. OSM community is no

[OSM-dev] How to handle these issues?

2014-08-17 Thread Sandor Seres
I am not quite shore how to handle the following two dilemmas: 1.If a rendering system renders the planet-sea area objects (instead of planet-land area objects), is then Antarctica a hole in the global ocean object or the global ocean object simply ends by the upper border-line of Antarctica?

[OSM-dev] Moving to stricter multipolygon parsing, again

2014-09-15 Thread Sandor Seres
Hi Paul Norman Not so long time ago you have triggered a discussion with your article Moving to stricter multipolygon parsing. The discussion lasted two/three days, was intense and rather divergent (demonstrating that the multi-polygon issue is still not only for beginners). After that I have not

[OSM-dev] Traps in vector mapping

2014-10-18 Thread Sandor Seres
There are many traps developers meet while developing vector-based mapping systems. Consequences are errors, some more visible than the others. Just a few days ago a researcher from Samsung Electronics asked, on the help forum, a legal question related to OSM licencing (OSM Developer Licenec 07

[OSM-dev] The OSM planet-sea and the global-ocean

2015-04-03 Thread Sandor Seres
The OSM planet-land is created from the coastline dataset. From time to time it might be reasonable to use the inverse of it, the planet-sea, or even both of them. But, creating the planet-sea is not just a simple exercise. Here is one model/option in bullets how this can be done efficiently.

[OSM-dev] Is this worth considering?

2015-06-05 Thread Sandor Seres
To OSM vector map-makers: do we need the 1:1 vector geometry on the map server? To be short I need to jump over many, many fine details. Yet I believe that for most of the related notions and processes we have approximately the same understanding. Anyway, in the vector geometry data preparation

[OSM-dev] A SOMMER CURIOSITY

2015-07-22 Thread Sandor Seres
Let us move the focus from the high to the low/start end of the map-making development for a short while. Yes, I know, the work and the issues at this end are much less attractive but sometimes we just have to be there too. So, here are some facts (facts underlined) from the last OSM dump, at this

Re: [OSM-dev] dev Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3

2015-09-15 Thread Sandor Seres
Of course, (vector) tiling is an inevitable phase of any efficient mapping system covering large areas. But tiled data representation of the RW objects has many drawbacks/limitations especially when it comes to error detection, spatial analyses, data volume and so on and this is what I want to

Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Cartographic: A client-side rendered OpenStreetMap Carto

2020-07-15 Thread Sandor Seres
Not sure I understand enough well the many technologies you want to mix here, especially the essential once like tilekiln, vectortiles, CartoCSS stylesheet … where you are the author/maintainer and where “… not provided a project description”. Yet, I do understand, you intend to develop a vector

Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Cartographic: A client-side rendered OpenStreetMap Carto

2020-07-16 Thread Sandor Seres
    Not sure I understand enough well the many technologies you want to mix here, especially the essential once like tilekiln, vectortiles, CartoCSS stylesheet … where you are the author/maintainer and where “… not provided a project description”. Yet, I do understand, you intend to