Re: [OSM-dev] Google Street View vs Laser Sfera
Hi Looijesteijz, yes I'm yet contact they. Yesterday I meet Edoardo (OSM Italian President ?!? :) ) and Andrea (GFOSS Vice President) , and spoke about this opportunity , I think that in september We doing the first experiment to use Laser Sfera Car in a map party :) Best Regards Roberto Although I am not in Italy, this is great news! Thanks for your support! Are you already in contact with the Italian Openstreetmappers? There's also a Italian newslist available at: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it Greetings, Floris Looijesteijn Roberto Navoni wrote: Hi EveryOne, there's an a good news about the avaibility of Street View Image. My company Laser Navigation srl (http://www.radionav.it) decide to support OSM project . We have develop 3 years ago an a system Laser Sfera that is very similar to Google Street View , actualy in Italy we have produced about 5000 km of road. Normaly our company work for municipality. Actualy our Eng. are working to update the export functionality of Laser Sfera Editor , so our system can export directly in osm the GPS raw data. The first support are the avaibility of gps raw data to the OSM community , the second step will to partecipate to some mapping party in Italy with our Laser Sfera Car a mobile mapping system that we use to collect video data of the street.The date collect during the mapping party will be avaible to OSM community. There're more detailed information on http://www.techcaffe.com search 3dNavigator is in italian but you can obtain an automatic traslation if click on English flag. Or you can see some videos on www.youtube.com , you can search laser + sfera . If some one is interest to obtain more information about our technology and avaibility of the Laser Sfera Car don't exitate to contact me. Best Regards Roberto Navoni CEO of Laser Navigation srl info about Sfera. http://www.radionav.it http://www.techcaffe.com search 3DNavigator http://www.youtube.com search Laser + Sfera ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Google Street View
I'll just hop onto this post and point out that The Register has already openly requested this. No idea if anything's being done about it though. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/30/google_streetview_open_street_map/ On 5 Aug 2008, at 10:13, Sjors Provoost wrote: Hi everyone (legal and dev), Now that the Google Street view imagery is growing pretty rapidly, I wonder if we could ask Google for permission to use the imagery to improve the OpenStreetMap data. I know they do not allow us to use their areal images, but part of the reason for that is that Google doesn't really own those. As far as I know, Google does own all the StreetView pictures. Things they could be useful for (for the dev people to talk about): * fetch street names from the signs * find mail boxes * estimate road quality * get the exact width of the road (since we 'know' the camera settings) * get the exact coordinates of features: if we know where the camera is, what direction it is looking at and typical size of a feature, we know exactly where it is. Gets even better with triangulation. In fact, you can pretty much semi automatically construct a very accurate map with these images if you only have the coordinates, orientation and camera settings. Now there could be different levels of access and different ways to approach it if unlimited usage is out of the question (for the legal people to talk about). * we could use images with no map overlay and only the coordinate of the camera. * we could fetch (semi) random images. We would use the existing openstreetmap data to figure out where the picture was taken. * other restrictions? That would guarantee that we are not using their map data. Now I am guessing that I am not the only one who thinks you can reconstruct a very detailed map from these images, so Google might already be doing this. If so, they may not like it if we do it first or better. On the other hand, they might like a bit of competition to keep 'm sharp and speed things up. So it never hurts to ask. Sjors ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Google Street View
Hi everyone (legal and dev), Now that the Google Street view imagery is growing pretty rapidly, I wonder if we could ask Google for permission to use the imagery to improve the OpenStreetMap data. I know they do not allow us to use their areal images, but part of the reason for that is that Google doesn't really own those. As far as I know, Google does own all the StreetView pictures. Things they could be useful for (for the dev people to talk about): * fetch street names from the signs * find mail boxes * estimate road quality * get the exact width of the road (since we 'know' the camera settings) * get the exact coordinates of features: if we know where the camera is, what direction it is looking at and typical size of a feature, we know exactly where it is. Gets even better with triangulation. In fact, you can pretty much semi automatically construct a very accurate map with these images if you only have the coordinates, orientation and camera settings. Now there could be different levels of access and different ways to approach it if unlimited usage is out of the question (for the legal people to talk about). * we could use images with no map overlay and only the coordinate of the camera. * we could fetch (semi) random images. We would use the existing openstreetmap data to figure out where the picture was taken. * other restrictions? That would guarantee that we are not using their map data. Now I am guessing that I am not the only one who thinks you can reconstruct a very detailed map from these images, so Google might already be doing this. If so, they may not like it if we do it first or better. On the other hand, they might like a bit of competition to keep 'm sharp and speed things up. So it never hurts to ask. Sjors ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Google Street View
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Sjors Provoost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone (legal and dev), Now that the Google Street view imagery is growing pretty rapidly, I wonder if we could ask Google for permission to use the imagery to [...] Things they could be useful for (for the dev people to talk about): * fetch street names from the signs * find mail boxes * estimate road quality * get the exact width of the road (since we 'know' the camera settings) * get the exact coordinates of features: if we know where the camera is, what direction it is looking at and typical size of a feature, we know exactly where it is. Gets even better with triangulation. This Google Tech Talk is quite relevant in this context: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7896376816571396341 Sjors ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
