Re: [OSM-dev] status/prognosis of Merkaator?

2019-10-28 Thread Ilya Zverev

28.10.2019 18:59, marc marc пишет:

Le 28.10.19 à 15:29, Greg Troxel a écrit :

   Is Merkaator a reasonable choice for OSM editing, it terms of working
   with current APIs and preset notions?


I never use it myself but accord to the stat, it's still in use
in the top 10 of end-user editor.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editor_usage_stats


While it is in the top 10 by number of edits, it is far down by the 
number of users, below Level0 and GNOME Maps. Its usage has been very 
close to Potlatch 1 since 2014.


Ilya


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Re: [OSM-dev] status/prognosis of Merkaator?

2019-10-28 Thread marc marc
Le 28.10.19 à 15:29, Greg Troxel a écrit :
>Is Merkaator a reasonable choice for OSM editing, it terms of working
>with current APIs and preset notions?

I never use it myself but accord to the stat, it's still in use
in the top 10 of end-user editor.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editor_usage_stats

>Is there any reason why someone would choose to use merkaator rather
>than josm (other than wanting to use it on a platform where Java is
>unavailable)?

tastes and colours are an irrational argument.

But seeing that even the screenshot seems to have disappeared from the 
site, it gives the impression of abandonment due to lack of time
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Re: [OSM-dev] status/prognosis of Merkaator?

2019-10-28 Thread Bas Couwenberg via dev

On 2019-10-28 15:29, Greg Troxel wrote:

I help maintain geo things in pkgsrc, a multi-OS multi-cpu portable
packaging system.  We are struggling with programs still using qt4, and
we currently have an old (0.17) version of merkaator.


You can build Merkaartor with Qt5 (since 0.18.2 at least), we did that 
in Debian.



Looking at the http://www.merkaartor.be/, I see a release in 2016, and
the last mailinglist message was in November of 2017.

So I am contemplating whether merkaator should be updated in pkgsrc, or
dropped.  Questions:


The merkaartor package was removed from Debian recently, we share many 
of the same concerns.


See: https://bugs.debian.org/933492


  Is 0.18.3 really the most recent release?


That seems to be the case, it's also the most recent tag:

 https://github.com/openstreetmap/merkaartor/releases


  Is there any reason to think a new release will be forthcoming?


The removal of the merkaartor package from Debian got Ladislavs 
attention, and he wanted to make a new release in the hope to get the 
package back into Debian.


See: 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/merkaartor/issues/146#issuecomment-517509242


A new release now is not sufficient to get the package back into Debian, 
releases need to be more frequent and that likely requires more active 
contributors and co-maintainers.



  Is Merkaator a reasonable choice for OSM editing, it terms of working
  with current APIs and preset notions?


JOSM is the only decent editor in my not so humble opinion, with that 
package you meet the needs of most users.


Kind Regards,

Bas

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