[racket-dev] comments on comments on learning Racket

2014-04-26 Thread Matthias Felleisen
I have been re-reading the notes on Artyom.me's site, taking notes. Few question his comments, some suggest reactions that should come from us, others are personal musings. I know this is a bit of a brain dump but I find this person's thoughts worthwhile for us (devs). Notes on Learning

Re: [racket-dev] comments on comments on learning Racket

2014-04-26 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: ;; - ** What does it mean to say , or get guidance? Where should people get guidance? What about? Avoid useless words. On this topic

Re: [racket-dev] comments on comments on learning Racket

2014-04-26 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 07:26 PM: On this topic (which is about the Choose a language language that DrRacket starts in when newly installed), I think we should just delete all of this code, and start in the Racket language. How about make Run and other very language-specific

Re: [racket-dev] comments on comments on learning Racket

2014-04-26 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 07:26 PM: On this topic (which is about the Choose a language language that DrRacket starts in when newly installed), I think we should just delete all of this code, and start in

Re: [racket-dev] comments on comments on learning Racket

2014-04-26 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 08:06 PM: On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 07:26 PM: On this topic (which is about the Choose a language language that DrRacket starts in when newly installed), I think we

Re: [racket-dev] comments on comments on learning Racket

2014-04-26 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 08:06 PM: On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 07:26 PM: On this topic (which is about the Choose

Re: [racket-dev] comments on comments on learning Racket

2014-04-26 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 08:13 PM: I'm confused about what you're suggesting, then. Is there a difference, under your suggestion, between opening DrRacket for the first time, entering `1` in the definitions window, and hitting run, and doing that same thing in an existing

Re: [racket-dev] comments on comments on learning Racket

2014-04-26 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 08:13 PM: I'm confused about what you're suggesting, then. Is there a difference, under your suggestion, between opening DrRacket for the first time, entering `1` in the

Re: [racket-dev] comments on comments on learning Racket

2014-04-26 Thread Greg Hendershott
I agree. Although I appreciate it helps in some classroom situations, I don't think the status quo is best for programmers in general. Also, speaking of Choose Language, I remember being very confused early on because some options were doubly hidden: 1. They're not under Preferences, they're