Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Matthias Felleisen

On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Robby Findler wrote:

 Also, don't forget that we moved the signatures to ASL (and improved
 various aspects of the implementation).


And be sure to tell them that it is all un(English)documented. 
Do we really want to encourage the current syntax for heaven's 
sake? I am pretty sure I don't like it. Neither does Mike -- 
he simply guessed what we might like. 

We should wait until Shriram has fixed into what he wants. 
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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Matthew Flatt
At Wed, 27 Oct 2010 23:40:27 -0600, Jon Rafkind wrote:
 Author: Matthew Flatt mfl...@racket-lang.org
 Modules spliced at the file level instead of collection level.
 Internal definitions for `when', `unless', `cond', `case', and `match'
 #true and #false forms

None seem especially worth mentioning, but the internal-definition
change could be mentioned if we need more to Say:

 * The `when', `unless', `cond', `case', and `match' forms (in
   `racket/base' and derived languages) now allow immediate internal
   definitions.

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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Jon Rafkind rafk...@cs.utah.edu wrote:

 Author: Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@racket-lang.org
    Faster loading of TR files?

Not worth mentioning.

You do have the optimizer-by-default in the changelog, right?
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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Robby Findler
I don't agree with this. We put something in there. It has been there
for a full release cycle and we still don't have documentation.
Choosing to not mention it is not reasonable.

Instead I think a bullet like this is what we should put:

* signatures have been restricted to ASL (removed from BSL and ISL and
variants).

Possibly we should also put something about why (so SK can experiment).

Robby

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Matthias Felleisen
matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:

 On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Robby Findler wrote:

 Also, don't forget that we moved the signatures to ASL (and improved
 various aspects of the implementation).


 And be sure to tell them that it is all un(English)documented.
 Do we really want to encourage the current syntax for heaven's
 sake? I am pretty sure I don't like it. Neither does Mike --
 he simply guessed what we might like.

 We should wait until Shriram has fixed into what he wants.

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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Robby Findler
I agree!

Robby

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Matthias Felleisen
matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:

 On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Matthew Flatt wrote:

 At Wed, 27 Oct 2010 23:40:27 -0600, Jon Rafkind wrote:
 Author: Matthew Flatt mfl...@racket-lang.org
    Modules spliced at the file level instead of collection level.
    Internal definitions for `when', `unless', `cond', `case', and `match'
    #true and #false forms

 None seem especially worth mentioning, but the internal-definition
 change could be mentioned if we need more to Say:

 * The `when', `unless', `cond', `case', and `match' forms (in
   `racket/base' and derived languages) now allow immediate internal
   definitions.


 Just for the record: allowing internal definitions all over the place and 
 mixing them properly with expressions has been one of the best small changes 
 of the decade.
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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Jay McCarthy
Here are some change logs entries for me:

Web Server - formlets now provide more HTML form elements;
make-xexpr-response supports a preamble for DTD declarations;
serve/servlet supports stateless servlets

PLAI - correct source locations in test printing; corrected test
printing; various GC language improvements and fixes

OpenSSL - ssl-tcp-addresses compatible with tcp-addresses

Match - compiler now uses unsafe operations to improve performance
(we've observed 2x on match intensive loads)

*SL - one-armed check-error; hash operations added to ASL;
define-datatype added to ASL

Net - WebSocket implementation added

You may not find them important.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Jon Rafkind rafk...@cs.utah.edu wrote:
 Please find your name below and provide some blurb for the 5.0.2 changelog

 Author: Jay McCarthy j...@racket-lang.org
    - Adding define-datatype to ASL
    - PLAI changes
    - Webserver changes

 Author: Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@racket-lang.org
    Faster loading of TR files?

 Author: Casey Klein clkl...@racket-lang.org
    redex things?

 Author: Matthew Flatt mfl...@racket-lang.org
    Modules spliced at the file level instead of collection level.
    Internal definitions for `when', `unless', `cond', `case', and `match'
    #true and #false forms

 Author: Robby Findler ro...@racket-lang.org
    - Check syntax changes
    - triangle primitives

 Author: Jay McCarthy j...@racket-lang.org
    - New hash functions

 Author: ryan
       - data/gvector
       - syntax/parse updates
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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Eli Barzilay
Three hours ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
 
 On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Matthew Flatt wrote:
  
  None seem especially worth mentioning, but the internal-definition
  change could be mentioned if we need more to Say:
  
  * The `when', `unless', `cond', `case', and `match' forms (in
`racket/base' and derived languages) now allow immediate
internal definitions.
 
 Just for the record: allowing internal definitions all over the
 place and mixing them properly with expressions has been one of the
 best small changes of the decade.

BTW, there's another one that I think should get the same: `begin0'.

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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote:
 Three hours ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote:

 On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Matthew Flatt wrote:
 
  None seem especially worth mentioning, but the internal-definition
  change could be mentioned if we need more to Say:
 
  * The `when', `unless', `cond', `case', and `match' forms (in
    `racket/base' and derived languages) now allow immediate
    internal definitions.

 Just for the record: allowing internal definitions all over the
 place and mixing them properly with expressions has been one of the
 best small changes of the decade.

 BTW, there's another one that I think should get the same: `begin0'.

That would be weird.  What do these do?

(begin0 (define x 1) x)
(let ([x 0]) (begin0 x (define x 1))

On a different note, is it still important to have `begin0' as a core form?
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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Eli Barzilay
About a minute ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote:
  Three hours ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
 
  On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Matthew Flatt wrote:
  
   None seem especially worth mentioning, but the internal-definition
   change could be mentioned if we need more to Say:
  
   * The `when', `unless', `cond', `case', and `match' forms (in
     `racket/base' and derived languages) now allow immediate
     internal definitions.
 
  Just for the record: allowing internal definitions all over the
  place and mixing them properly with expressions has been one of the
  best small changes of the decade.
 
  BTW, there's another one that I think should get the same: `begin0'.
 
 That would be weird.  What do these do?
 
 (begin0 (define x 1) x)
 (let ([x 0]) (begin0 x (define x 1))

I don't see what should be weird, those would be similar syntax errors
to what you get from

  (begin0 (define x 1) (let () x))
  (let ([x 0]) (begin0 x (let () (define x 1

[You're probably thinking of

  (define-syntax-rule (begin0 b0 b ...) (let ([r b0]) b ... r))

which makes the second confusing in that it will not be a syntax error
but a useless definition.]

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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Jon Rafkind
On 10/28/2010 06:36 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Jon Rafkind rafk...@cs.utah.edu wrote:
 Author: Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@racket-lang.org
Faster loading of TR files?
 Not worth mentioning.

 You do have the optimizer-by-default in the changelog, right?
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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Eli Barzilay
About a minute ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote:
  About a minute ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
  On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote:
   Three hours ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
  
   On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Matthew Flatt wrote:
   
None seem especially worth mentioning, but the internal-definition
change could be mentioned if we need more to Say:
   
* The `when', `unless', `cond', `case', and `match' forms (in
  `racket/base' and derived languages) now allow immediate
  internal definitions.
  
   Just for the record: allowing internal definitions all over the
   place and mixing them properly with expressions has been one of the
   best small changes of the decade.
  
   BTW, there's another one that I think should get the same: `begin0'.
 
  That would be weird.  What do these do?
 
  (begin0 (define x 1) x)
  (let ([x 0]) (begin0 x (define x 1))
 
  I don't see what should be weird, those would be similar syntax errors
  to what you get from
 
   (begin0 (define x 1) (let () x))
 
 This isn't any different from my first example.  What did you mean here?

I mean that the suggested `begin0' that I'm talking about will be
implemented with a `(let () ...)' around the body, and therefore the
error that you would get with

  (begin0 (define x 1) x)

is the same that you get now with:

  (begin0 (define x 1) (let () x))


   (let ([x 0]) (begin0 x (let () (define x 1
 
 What about
 
 (let ([x 0]) (begin0 x (define-syntax x #'1)))
 
 or
 
 (let ([x 0]) (begin0 x (define-syntax x #'1) 7))
 ?

Same for all of these (first is a syntax error, second is 0).  I don't
see anything problematic or surprising.

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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-28 Thread Ryan Culpepper



On 10/27/2010 11:40 PM, Jon Rafkind wrote:

Please find your name below and provide some blurb for the 5.0.2 changelog

Author: Jay McCarthyj...@racket-lang.org
 - Adding define-datatype to ASL
 - PLAI changes
 - Webserver changes

Author: Sam Tobin-Hochstadtsa...@racket-lang.org
 Faster loading of TR files?

Author: Casey Kleinclkl...@racket-lang.org
 redex things?

Author: Matthew Flattmfl...@racket-lang.org
 Modules spliced at the file level instead of collection level.
 Internal definitions for `when', `unless', `cond', `case', and `match'
 #true and #false forms

Author: Robby Findlerro...@racket-lang.org
 - Check syntax changes
 - triangle primitives

Author: Jay McCarthyj...@racket-lang.org
 - New hash functions

Author: ryan
- data/gvector


  The new data collection contains implementations of several
  data structures, including growable vectors and order-based
  dictionaries.


- syntax/parse updates


No, I think the changes are all either internal, experimental, or too 
subtle for a blurb.


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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-27 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Jon Rafkind rafk...@cs.utah.edu wrote:
 Here is the raw changelog for 5.0.2. If you would like to summarize your
 changes please do so, otherwise someone (me/eli/ryan) will do it for
 you. If there are any other important items to note for this release
 please make a note of them.

 Matthew Flatt
 commit bf4fc2574c06132fece7342219fe6ea589e42f6d
    fix syntax colorer for #true and #false
 commit 99df8e126790077c11b4363a273ebf777bff8514
    allow internal definitions in `when', `unless', `cond, `case', `match'
 commit 15302dc844ecf931145f895677cc8eb765b69960
    adjust futures to decouple blocked futures from worker threads
     which required adding a notion of lightweight continuation to
     the runtime system, where a lightweight continuation involves
     only frames from JIT0generated code (so that details of the stack
     layout are known, for example)

 Mike Sperber
 commit 38cf78e213ee8f246ce322becb419aaed6ec2391
    Allow specifying arbitary expressions in a signature declaration.

    Fixes PR 11282

 Vincent St-Amour
 commit 8baa1682af76965400ab1071a46f8ba50f7c7165
    Turned the optimizer on by default.
 commit 8d6230956dc8c207c097a389fa1f0c7273bb55b7
    Documented the optimizer.

 Jon Rafkind
 commit d112eb4ceb8b94aebf1f699d1591386579e07a22
    add line numbers pane to drracket

 Will M. Farr
 commit beb21754564fa8f20eae7e0e3109f2c1d06260c4
    Added flvector-copy (with tests and docs).
 commit 82096abb1b6fd4a8872f528437ba95c44a4aedba
    Added interation forms for/vector, for*/vector, for/flvector, and
 for*/flvector and for-clause in-flvector.

 Jay McCarthy
 commit 01a41a812e83d0fb3a31940de0b52504ac4bbdb6
    Closing pr11216. Adding one armed check-error to teaching languages.
 commit d17deb5fef8342e2dc25b6ddd027bd71d6373a8f
    Adding hash table functions to ASL
 commit 407dcee206678785b4b87bb513d7ba5f55ad8ab5
    Adding match to ASL
 commit 347e946548c26bd51b682284816aa7f6f34b2d92
    Adding WebSocket support

I don't know where this list came from but it is lacking.

There are some changes to PLAI and to the Web server.

Jay


 Stevie Strickland
 commit ec0711bf4996dde06ecddbc8fcb95f44987a6915
    Add chaperone contract-related properties.

      * Flat contracts are chaperone contracts, and chaperone contracts
        are (proxy) contracts.
      * Check in chaperone contracts that a chaperone (or chaperone-friendly
        value) is indeed returned.

 Ryan Culpepper
 commit 5a8d2f010e9e7858ff8c32ffadf73adac11cd98a
    added data/gvector, docs (need tests)
 commit d7a87c79e0211071fecb8474e6f7f66317b089d4
    Merged changes to syntax/parse
      Changed backtracking algorithm, runtime representations
        - syntax classes, ~describe no longer implicitly commit
        - ~describe no longer delimits effect of cut
      Added keyword  optional args for stxclasses
      Added ~do and #:do, ~post, ~commit and #:commit,
        ~delimit-cut and #:no-delimit-cut
      Added syntax/parse/debug, syntax/parse/experimental/*
        - expr/c for contracting macro sub-expressions
          moved from syntax/parse to syntax/parse/experimental/contract
        - syntax class reflection (~reflect, ~splicing-reflect)
        - eh-alternative-sets (~eh-var)
        - provide-syntax-class/contract
          (only for params, not attrs so far)
      Changed ~fail to not include POST progress (#:fail still does)
        old (~fail _) is now (~post (~fail _))
      Made msg argument of ~fail optional
      Removed generic repetition constraint violated msg
      Removed atom-in-list stxclass
      Removed unnecessary datum-syntax on cdr of pair pattern
        massive improvements to long-list microbenchmarks
      Optimization: integrable syntax classes (id, expr, keyword)
        need better measurements
      Optimization: ad hoc elimination of head/tail choice point
        for (EH ... . ()) patterns
      Added unstable/wrapc (proc version of expr/c)

 Robby Findler
 commit 5e01ac55373d2987410da7d95f26f42535cfae3b
    added a pinhole property to images
 commit 561ac12a91e02fbc298272cc97d96e00d92f98ae
    got started on the -i parser

 Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
 commit 0635fc6d7542ea412e4586ca6ca051fdd2d91adb
    Create data/ collection.

     - Initially populated with queues, skip-lists, and interval-maps
 from unstable/
     - Tests in tests/data, docs in data/scribblings

 Jens Axel Søgaard
 commit 64c3a98e45bda91b39eb811456ab409b72f0936e
    Added triangle/sss, triangle/ass, triangle/sas, triangle/ssa,
 triangle/aas, triangle/asa, and, triangle/saa.

 Kevin Tew
 commit 5bb2e148de87457ebb4790287d3b83b872c91a78
    Parallel docs build
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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-27 Thread Jon Rafkind
Would people like a list of their own commits and they can choose which
ones should have an accompanying release note?

$ git log da9b718bf80c3e678e1d9372c521d512e0b91747..master --author=rafkind


On 10/27/2010 03:55 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Jon Rafkind rafk...@cs.utah.edu wrote:
 Here is the raw changelog for 5.0.2. If you would like to summarize your
 changes please do so, otherwise someone (me/eli/ryan) will do it for
 you. If there are any other important items to note for this release
 please make a note of them.

 Matthew Flatt
 commit bf4fc2574c06132fece7342219fe6ea589e42f6d
fix syntax colorer for #true and #false
 commit 99df8e126790077c11b4363a273ebf777bff8514
allow internal definitions in `when', `unless', `cond, `case', `match'
 commit 15302dc844ecf931145f895677cc8eb765b69960
adjust futures to decouple blocked futures from worker threads
 which required adding a notion of lightweight continuation to
 the runtime system, where a lightweight continuation involves
 only frames from JIT0generated code (so that details of the stack
 layout are known, for example)

 Mike Sperber
 commit 38cf78e213ee8f246ce322becb419aaed6ec2391
Allow specifying arbitary expressions in a signature declaration.

Fixes PR 11282

 Vincent St-Amour
 commit 8baa1682af76965400ab1071a46f8ba50f7c7165
Turned the optimizer on by default.
 commit 8d6230956dc8c207c097a389fa1f0c7273bb55b7
Documented the optimizer.

 Jon Rafkind
 commit d112eb4ceb8b94aebf1f699d1591386579e07a22
add line numbers pane to drracket

 Will M. Farr
 commit beb21754564fa8f20eae7e0e3109f2c1d06260c4
Added flvector-copy (with tests and docs).
 commit 82096abb1b6fd4a8872f528437ba95c44a4aedba
Added interation forms for/vector, for*/vector, for/flvector, and
 for*/flvector and for-clause in-flvector.

 Jay McCarthy
 commit 01a41a812e83d0fb3a31940de0b52504ac4bbdb6
Closing pr11216. Adding one armed check-error to teaching languages.
 commit d17deb5fef8342e2dc25b6ddd027bd71d6373a8f
Adding hash table functions to ASL
 commit 407dcee206678785b4b87bb513d7ba5f55ad8ab5
Adding match to ASL
 commit 347e946548c26bd51b682284816aa7f6f34b2d92
Adding WebSocket support
 I don't know where this list came from but it is lacking.

 There are some changes to PLAI and to the Web server.

 Jay

 Stevie Strickland
 commit ec0711bf4996dde06ecddbc8fcb95f44987a6915
Add chaperone contract-related properties.

  * Flat contracts are chaperone contracts, and chaperone contracts
are (proxy) contracts.
  * Check in chaperone contracts that a chaperone (or chaperone-friendly
value) is indeed returned.

 Ryan Culpepper
 commit 5a8d2f010e9e7858ff8c32ffadf73adac11cd98a
added data/gvector, docs (need tests)
 commit d7a87c79e0211071fecb8474e6f7f66317b089d4
Merged changes to syntax/parse
  Changed backtracking algorithm, runtime representations
- syntax classes, ~describe no longer implicitly commit
- ~describe no longer delimits effect of cut
  Added keyword  optional args for stxclasses
  Added ~do and #:do, ~post, ~commit and #:commit,
~delimit-cut and #:no-delimit-cut
  Added syntax/parse/debug, syntax/parse/experimental/*
- expr/c for contracting macro sub-expressions
  moved from syntax/parse to syntax/parse/experimental/contract
- syntax class reflection (~reflect, ~splicing-reflect)
- eh-alternative-sets (~eh-var)
- provide-syntax-class/contract
  (only for params, not attrs so far)
  Changed ~fail to not include POST progress (#:fail still does)
old (~fail _) is now (~post (~fail _))
  Made msg argument of ~fail optional
  Removed generic repetition constraint violated msg
  Removed atom-in-list stxclass
  Removed unnecessary datum-syntax on cdr of pair pattern
massive improvements to long-list microbenchmarks
  Optimization: integrable syntax classes (id, expr, keyword)
need better measurements
  Optimization: ad hoc elimination of head/tail choice point
for (EH ... . ()) patterns
  Added unstable/wrapc (proc version of expr/c)

 Robby Findler
 commit 5e01ac55373d2987410da7d95f26f42535cfae3b
added a pinhole property to images
 commit 561ac12a91e02fbc298272cc97d96e00d92f98ae
got started on the -i parser

 Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
 commit 0635fc6d7542ea412e4586ca6ca051fdd2d91adb
Create data/ collection.

 - Initially populated with queues, skip-lists, and interval-maps
 from unstable/
 - Tests in tests/data, docs in data/scribblings

 Jens Axel Søgaard
 commit 64c3a98e45bda91b39eb811456ab409b72f0936e
Added triangle/sss, triangle/ass, triangle/sas, triangle/ssa,
 triangle/aas, triangle/asa, and, triangle/saa.

 Kevin Tew
 commit 5bb2e148de87457ebb4790287d3b83b872c91a78
Parallel docs build
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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
Please reply to Jon with release messages soon -- that's the only
thing left for the release.
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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-27 Thread Robby Findler
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Robby Findler
ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote:
 The contract library's dependent contracts are now faster and properly
 assign blame when they are internally inconsistent see the docs for
 -i for more details.

(this one is still okay).

 The 2htdp/image library now supports pinholes (but if you do not use
 the pinhole primitives then you do not see the pinholes).

should be:

The 2htdp/image library now supports pinholes (but if you do not use
the pinhole primitives then you do not see the pinholes), has a number
of new triangle functions, and supports conversion of images to color
lists and back. Also, the treatment of cropping has been improved for
scenes; see the documentation section on the nitty-gritty of pixels
for details.

Also, don't forget that we moved the signatures to ASL (and improved
various aspects of the implementation).

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Re: [racket-dev] 5.0.2 changelog

2010-10-26 Thread John Clements

On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote:

 
 1. BSL, BSL+, ISL, and ISL+ (HtDP teaching languages) no longer support 
 checked signatures. 
 
 2. The stepper should kind of mostly work for universe programs. John? 

Precisely.

That is: there's more junk that could be hidden, but the universe program that 
I tested did in fact work[*] just fine. Has this been broken long enough that 
fixing it deserves a bullet? I'm inclined to say no.

John

[*] please insert usual caveats re: use of the word work.



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