Re: [racket-dev] package system, minimal builds and more
On 10/01/2013 07:30 AM, Neil Toronto wrote: On 10/01/2013 09:20 AM, Tobias Hammer wrote: * monolithic math currently math is one big package and installing it pulls in nearly everything through the docs. Is it planned to split it into -lib and -doc? We were waiting for a reason. This is one. I'll try it on my flight home tonight. (Never done any package management before.) Okay, that took longer than I thought. It was much easier than splitting the plot package, though... Neil ⊥ _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] package system, minimal builds and more
All in one answer On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:30:11 +0200, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/01/2013 09:20 AM, Tobias Hammer wrote: * monolithic math currently math is one big package and installing it pulls in nearly everything through the docs. Is it planned to split it into -lib and -doc? We were waiting for a reason. This is one. I'll try it on my flight home tonight. (Never done any package management before.) Thanks for tackling this. I think its worth the effort. I suppose this is a good rule of thumb: if your docs make pictures, put them in a separate package. Yes, thats a good minimum requirement. For standalone builds or for small devices it would be even better if it's possible to build everything that might be useful in this setting without a single doc. On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:26:08 +0200, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: These two are fixed now (with the snapshot build http://plt.eecs.northwestern.edu/snapshots/20131003-154d940/). Thanks, will try as soon as possible. On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 16:39:42 +0200, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: * raco pkg warnings On every command i get warning: tool pkg registered twice: pkg and #path:/home/hamm_to/tmp/racket/_tmp/racket-5.90.0.9/collects/pkg warning: tool setup registered twice: setup and #path:/home//hamm_to/tmp/racket/_tmp/racket-5.90.0.9/collects/setup warning: tool link registered twice: link and #path:/home/hamm_to/tmp/racket/_tmp/racket-5.90.0.9/collects/setup /home/hamm_to/tmp/racket/_tmp/racket-5.90.0.9/ is the used installation. What command did you run to get this error? I haven't been able to replicate it. It seems to only happen if i have PLTCOLLECTS=:, not if it's set to anything else to unset. Then a raco pkg is enough to trigger it. You can see these with `raco pkg show`. Is that what you're looking for? Exactly what i was looking for (raco pkg show -a -d). Thanks. On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 18:32:51 +0200, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.com wrote: I think I need more details. If you have pkg A installed, then it should only download a small checksum to see if A needs to be updated. If this is broken, then it is an error. That works as supposed. If you do NOT have pkg A installed, then it will download the full file. If that install fails, then 'raco pkg' cleans up after itself and deletes the things it downloaded. Apt does not do this and saves everything in a temporary directory that must be manually cleaned. I did not implement that because it feels wrong to run a command like 'raco pkg clean-old-tmp-files' or something. But it sounds like you want that? Yes, that's what i had in mind because I'm used to this behavior and i was wondering why raco downloaded the files over and over on a _failed_ install (Only noticed it because it was a relatively large install). But the temporary files are a good point that i completely forgot. I think, in hope that installs (hopefully) rarely fail it's better as it is now. Tobias _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] package system, minimal builds and more
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Tobias Hammer tobias.ham...@dlr.de wrote: Hi, i played a bit with the new package system, minimal installs and cross compiling. It works pretty good but i have a few problems and remarks/questions. I start with a fresh yesterdays minimal source (min-racket-5.90.0.9-src.tgz), build it (natively for linux) and try to install packages. (Given in no particular order) * compiler-lib install fails with the following error ./bin/raco pkg install -i compiler-lib Resolving compiler-lib via http://www.eecs.northwestern.** edu/plt/snapshots/20130929-**6d4ff30/catalog/http://www.eecs.northwestern.edu/plt/snapshots/20130929-6d4ff30/catalog/ Resolving compiler-lib via https://pkg.racket-lang.org Downloading checksum for compiler-lib Downloading http://racket-packages.s3-us-**west-2.amazonaws.com/pkgs/** b824ed762533834659b5f0ee047dea**fb101acc74/compiler-lib.ziphttp://racket-packages.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/pkgs/b824ed762533834659b5f0ee047deafb101acc74/compiler-lib.zip raco pkg install: package conflicts with existing installed package: compiler-lib module path: compiler/option As its needed by racket-doc and similar it blocks install of a lot of packets * the snapshot catalog seems to be nonexistent If i browse to http://www.eecs.northwestern.**edu/plt/snapshots/20130929-* *6d4ff30/catalog/http://www.eecs.northwestern.edu/plt/snapshots/20130929-6d4ff30/catalog/, i always get a 404. Is this intended? These two are fixed now (with the snapshot build http://plt.eecs.northwestern.edu/snapshots/20131003-154d940/). Thanks! Robby _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] package system, minimal builds and more
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Tobias Hammer tobias.ham...@dlr.de wrote: Hi, i played a bit with the new package system, minimal installs and cross compiling. It works pretty good but i have a few problems and remarks/questions. I start with a fresh yesterdays minimal source (min-racket-5.90.0.9-src.tgz), build it (natively for linux) and try to install packages. (Given in no particular order) First, thanks for the feedback! * compiler-lib install fails with the following error ./bin/raco pkg install -i compiler-lib Resolving compiler-lib via http://www.eecs.northwestern.edu/plt/snapshots/20130929-6d4ff30/catalog/ Resolving compiler-lib via https://pkg.racket-lang.org Downloading checksum for compiler-lib Downloading http://racket-packages.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/pkgs/b824ed762533834659b5f0ee047deafb101acc74/compiler-lib.zip raco pkg install: package conflicts with existing installed package: compiler-lib module path: compiler/option As its needed by racket-doc and similar it blocks install of a lot of packets The problem here seems to be that the below problem causes it to fall back to an older version from the central pkg catalog, which doesn't work because of refactoring between when your snapshot was from, and when the upload of that zip file to the pkg catalog happened. Once we actually release the next version, we won't move things around in ways that cause these compatibility issues. I manually edited etc/config.rktd to point to the Utah snapshot page, and then it worked. * the snapshot catalog seems to be nonexistent If i browse to http://www.eecs.northwestern.edu/plt/snapshots/20130929-6d4ff30/catalog/, i always get a 404. Is this intended? I think this is a bug in how the Northwestern snapshots are set up, because they should go to 'plt.eecs.northwestern.edu/snapshots/...' instead. I've cc'ed Robby, who can hopefully fix this. * redownload after fail the package manager seems to download every packet again after a failed install or user interruption. Would it be worth to reuse the once downloaded zips if the checksum is the same (similar to the behavior of apt). I believe the package manager knows how to do this, but it doesn't seem to be doing it here, even though there's checksum information in the catalog files. Jay, do you know what's going on here? * raco pkg warnings On every command i get warning: tool pkg registered twice: pkg and #path:/home/hamm_to/tmp/racket/_tmp/racket-5.90.0.9/collects/pkg warning: tool setup registered twice: setup and #path:/home//hamm_to/tmp/racket/_tmp/racket-5.90.0.9/collects/setup warning: tool link registered twice: link and #path:/home/hamm_to/tmp/racket/_tmp/racket-5.90.0.9/collects/setup /home/hamm_to/tmp/racket/_tmp/racket-5.90.0.9/ is the used installation. What command did you run to get this error? I haven't been able to replicate it. * More verbose require error If i require something nonexistent i get an exception like (require fdfsdfsdf) ; readline-input:4:8: collection not found ; for module path: fdfsdfsdf ; collection: fdfsdfsdf ; in collection directories: ;/home/hamm_to/.racket/snapshot/collects ;/volume/USERSTORE/hamm_to/tmp/racket-qnx/linux-racket-5.90.0.9/collects ;/home/hamm_to/.racket/snapshot/collects ;/volume/USERSTORE/hamm_to/tmp/racket-qnx/linux-racket-5.90.0.9/collects ;... [22 additional linked and package directories] Is it possible to somehow show these additional 22 entries? Maybe not in the error but from raco? You can see these with `raco pkg show`. Is that what you're looking for? Sam _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] package system, minimal builds and more
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: * redownload after fail the package manager seems to download every packet again after a failed install or user interruption. Would it be worth to reuse the once downloaded zips if the checksum is the same (similar to the behavior of apt). I believe the package manager knows how to do this, but it doesn't seem to be doing it here, even though there's checksum information in the catalog files. Jay, do you know what's going on here? I think I need more details. If you have pkg A installed, then it should only download a small checksum to see if A needs to be updated. If this is broken, then it is an error. If you do NOT have pkg A installed, then it will download the full file. If that install fails, then 'raco pkg' cleans up after itself and deletes the things it downloaded. Apt does not do this and saves everything in a temporary directory that must be manually cleaned. I did not implement that because it feels wrong to run a command like 'raco pkg clean-old-tmp-files' or something. But it sounds like you want that? Jay -- Jay McCarthy j...@cs.byu.edu Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay The glory of God is Intelligence - DC 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
