Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:51 AM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote: On 09/12/12 05:39 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: DESCRIPTION * There was some licensing FUD discussed on the list, mostly to promote a rationale for moving the project elsewhere and/or releasing stdcxx under a

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:51 AM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote: On 09/12/12 05:39 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: DESCRIPTION * There was some licensing FUD discussed on the list, mostly to promote a rationale for

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Is this all about your point of view that even though Apache stdcxx is designed as a library, esp as a system library, that GPLv2 programs cannot use and link to it because the FSF says that the ALv2 is incompatible w/

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread C. Bergström
On 09/13/12 11:40 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Jim Jagielskij...@jagunet.com wrote: Is this all about your point of view that even though Apache stdcxx is designed as a library, esp as a system library, that GPLv2 programs cannot use and link to it because the FSF says

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread C. Bergström
On 09/13/12 07:43 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Is that the actionable item of which you speak? You want the ASF to verify something in the GPLv2? No - We want to discuss the Apache foundation transferring their rights granted under the contributor agreement to another open source foundation.

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:12 PM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote: [System lib exception was of course brought up during the BSD discussion, but it was said that system libraries are usually shipped by default with the system. This may not always be the case with STDCXX.] In order

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 13, 2012, at 1:24 PM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote: On 09/13/12 07:43 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Is that the actionable item of which you speak? You want the ASF to verify something in the GPLv2? No - We want to discuss the Apache foundation transferring their rights

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 13, 2012, at 1:12 PM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote: We appreciate you telling the choir, but it doesn't help resolve this. How to best proceed? Is legal-discuss the best way to go forward or something else? Why? What are you looking for? And who is the expected

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
Sorry. I've been Reply-All'ing. On Sep 13, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:12 AM, C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com wrote: Is legal-discuss the best way to go forward or something else? I'm not sure what the question is, but it

Re: [REPORT] Apache C++ Standard Library (stdcxx)

2012-09-12 Thread C. Bergström
On 09/12/12 05:39 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: DESCRIPTION * There was some licensing FUD discussed on the list, mostly to promote a rationale for moving the project elsewhere and/or releasing stdcxx under a different license. This has (hopefully) been clarified. You willfully ignore the