Re: [dev] [st] Add a newline to the string printed in die

2012-12-13 Thread Joerg Zinke

Am 11.12.2012 um 12:38 schrieb Marc Andre Tanner m...@brain-dump.org:

 Please send patches as attached files.
 
 Since we are using now git, it is easier and logic send the patches in this
 way, so the code of the patch can be included and modified in replies. You
 only have to use git am if you want to incorpore then to the main repository
 ,and it will keep the correct author and commiter, that I can see this
 information is lost now (I think it is not the correct way put a 'thanks' in
 the commit message).
 
 I  won’t accept such patches. Please send attached files. I won’t imple‐
 ment the outdated mbox or Maildir format for this.
 
 That is retarded. Inline patches which facilitate commenting are the
 prefered patch format. Get familiar with your git tools.

I agree and while there, maybe learn to use your MUA as well.

Regards,
Joerg


Re: [dev] [st] Add a newline to the string printed in die

2012-12-13 Thread Joerg Zinke

Am 11.12.2012 um 18:34 schrieb Christoph Lohmann 2...@r-36.net:

 I  don’t  know  why  people prefer to see the big patches inline,

Ideally the patches are small :)

 so you
 have the scroll past the whole patch to the next e‐mail,  when  you  are

So, scrolling is a problem for you? I do shift+g usually.

 using a pager to read your e‐mail.

What? May I suggest to start learning how to use a MUA and the 
according Editor?

 It’s easier when the MUA is filtering
 the patch file out, by simply  showing,  that  some  properly  formatted
 patch is attached, which you can download,

What? Download the patch? In what retarded way are you accessing 
mails?

 Even if MIME sucks,

It sucks.

 People   don’t know how to properly format e‐mails, so they will toppost
 on top of long patches and simply attach the whole thing.

Whats wrong with having patch again in the reply at the bottom?

Regards,
Joerg


Re: [dev] [st] Add a newline to the string printed in die

2012-12-11 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:40:16 +0100 Roberto E. Vargas Caballero 
k...@shike2.com wrote:
 After a call to die the program exits and the shell take the control, so it
 is better for the user the shell begins in an new line, and it is better for
 the programmer don't have to explicitly add it in each call to die.

No,  this will change the die() behaviour between all suckless projects.
Rejected.

Please send patches as attached files.


Sincerely,

Christoph Lohmann




Re: [dev] [st] Add a newline to the string printed in die

2012-12-11 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero

 No,  this will change the die() behaviour between all suckless projects.

Then, change die in all the projects, it is the usual way of working with
other issues, no?

 Please send patches as attached files.

Since we are using now git, it is easier and logic send the patches in this
way, so the code of the patch can be included and modified in replies. You
only have to use git am if you want to incorpore then to the main repository
,and it will keep the correct author and commiter, that I can see this
information is lost now (I think it is not the correct way put a 'thanks' in
the commit message).

Best regards,



Re: [dev] [st] Add a newline to the string printed in die

2012-12-11 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:39:55 +0100 Roberto E. Vargas Caballero 
k...@shike2.com wrote:
 
  No,  this will change the die() behaviour between all suckless projects.
 
 Then, change die in all the projects, it is the usual way of working with
 other issues, no?

Why  should your taste change all the behaviour of die() in all suckless
projects? Appending the \n by the programmer adds flexibility, so  there
is no need to write a die‐no‐newline() function.

  Please send patches as attached files.
 
 Since we are using now git, it is easier and logic send the patches in this
 way, so the code of the patch can be included and modified in replies. You
 only have to use git am if you want to incorpore then to the main repository
 ,and it will keep the correct author and commiter, that I can see this
 information is lost now (I think it is not the correct way put a 'thanks' in
 the commit message).

I  won’t accept such patches. Please send attached files. I won’t imple‐
ment the outdated mbox or Maildir format for this.


Sincerely,

Christoph Lohmann




Re: [dev] [st] Add a newline to the string printed in die

2012-12-11 Thread Marc Andre Tanner
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:39:55AM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
   Please send patches as attached files.
  
  Since we are using now git, it is easier and logic send the patches in this
  way, so the code of the patch can be included and modified in replies. You
  only have to use git am if you want to incorpore then to the main repository
  ,and it will keep the correct author and commiter, that I can see this
  information is lost now (I think it is not the correct way put a 'thanks' in
  the commit message).
 
 I  won’t accept such patches. Please send attached files. I won’t imple‐
 ment the outdated mbox or Maildir format for this.

That is retarded. Inline patches which facilitate commenting are the
prefered patch format. Get familiar with your git tools.

Marc 

-- 
 Marc Andre Tanner  http://www.brain-dump.org/  GPG key: CF7D56C0



Re: [dev] [st] Add a newline to the string printed in die

2012-12-11 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:25:04 +0100 Marc Andre Tanner m...@brain-dump.org 
wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:39:55AM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
Please send patches as attached files.
   
   Since we are using now git, it is easier and logic send the patches in 
   this
   way, so the code of the patch can be included and modified in replies. You
   only have to use git am if you want to incorpore then to the main 
   repository
   ,and it will keep the correct author and commiter, that I can see this
   information is lost now (I think it is not the correct way put a 'thanks' 
   in
   the commit message).
  
  I  won’t accept such patches. Please send attached files. I won’t imple‐
  ment the outdated mbox or Maildir format for this.
 
 That is retarded. Inline patches which facilitate commenting are the
 prefered patch format. Get familiar with your git tools.

No.


Sincerely,

Christoph Lohmann




Re: [dev] [st] Add a newline to the string printed in die

2012-12-11 Thread Antonio Quartulli
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 06:25:04PM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
 Greetings.
 
 On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:25:04 +0100 Marc Andre Tanner m...@brain-dump.org 
 wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:39:55AM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
 Please send patches as attached files.

Since we are using now git, it is easier and logic send the patches in 
this
way, so the code of the patch can be included and modified in replies. 
You
only have to use git am if you want to incorpore then to the main 
repository
,and it will keep the correct author and commiter, that I can see this
information is lost now (I think it is not the correct way put a 
'thanks' in
the commit message).
   
   I  won’t accept such patches. Please send attached files. I won’t imple‐
   ment the outdated mbox or Maildir format for this.
  
  That is retarded. Inline patches which facilitate commenting are the
  prefered patch format. Get familiar with your git tools.
 
 No.
 

Ah, I just got onto this thread..maybe this is why my patch: [PATCHv2] dwm:
replace deprecated XKeycodeToKeysym had not been reviewed/commented? :)

Cheers,

-- 
Antonio Quartulli

..each of us alone is worth nothing..
Ernesto Che Guevara


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Re: [dev] [st] Add a newline to the string printed in die

2012-12-11 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:34:19 +0100 Antonio Quartulli or...@autistici.org 
wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 06:25:04PM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
  Greetings.
  
  On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:25:04 +0100 Marc Andre Tanner m...@brain-dump.org 
  wrote:
   On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:39:55AM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
  Please send patches as attached files.
 
 Since we are using now git, it is easier and logic send the patches 
 in this
 way, so the code of the patch can be included and modified in 
 replies. You
 only have to use git am if you want to incorpore then to the main 
 repository
 ,and it will keep the correct author and commiter, that I can see this
 information is lost now (I think it is not the correct way put a 
 'thanks' in
 the commit message).

I  won’t accept such patches. Please send attached files. I won’t imple‐
ment the outdated mbox or Maildir format for this.
   
   That is retarded. Inline patches which facilitate commenting are the
   prefered patch format. Get familiar with your git tools.
  
  No.
  
 
 Ah, I just got onto this thread..maybe this is why my patch: [PATCHv2] dwm:
 replace deprecated XKeycodeToKeysym had not been reviewed/commented? :)

No,  Anselm  is the maintainer of dwm. He needs some time to answer your
patch. 

For the thread:

I  don’t  know  why  people prefer to see the big patches inline, so you
have the scroll past the whole patch to the next e‐mail,  when  you  are
using a pager to read your e‐mail. It’s easier when the MUA is filtering
the patch file out, by simply  showing,  that  some  properly  formatted
patch is attached, which you can download, view in your favourite editor
and apply it with git apply. This also allows to do easier  prefiltering
in  your  mailcap  file, without having to scan all e‐mails with heuris‐
tics. Even if MIME sucks, it’s shorter to use the proper MIME  type  in‐
stead of filtering whole e‐mail blocks.

People   don’t know how to properly format e‐mails, so they will toppost
on top of long patches and simply attach the whole thing. This is just a
preliminary  filter,   so   you  can  configure your  MUA  to  not  show
everything. And that’s why I am against inline patches.

It  was  a  hard fight to allow proper attachments, now use them. It was
a hard fight to have UTF‐8 and 8bit e‐mails too, but that  fight  is  at
least won. Now for the next fight.


Sincerely,

Christoph Lohmann




Re: [dev] [st] Add a newline to the string printed in die

2012-12-11 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 11 December 2012 18:33, Antonio Quartulli or...@autistici.org wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 06:25:04PM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
 On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:25:04 +0100 Marc Andre Tanner m...@brain-dump.org 
 wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:39:55AM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
 Please send patches as attached files.
   
Since we are using now git, it is easier and logic send the patches in 
this
way, so the code of the patch can be included and modified in replies. 
You
only have to use git am if you want to incorpore then to the main 
repository
,and it will keep the correct author and commiter, that I can see this
information is lost now (I think it is not the correct way put a 
'thanks' in
the commit message).
  
   I  won’t accept such patches. Please send attached files. I won’t imple‐
   ment the outdated mbox or Maildir format for this.
 
  That is retarded. Inline patches which facilitate commenting are the
  prefered patch format. Get familiar with your git tools.

 No.


 Ah, I just got onto this thread..maybe this is why my patch: [PATCHv2] dwm:
 replace deprecated XKeycodeToKeysym had not been reviewed/commented? :)

We had a similar patch already which I first applied and then reverted
to the old XKeycodeToKeysym() call, as it would require cumbersome
fallback behavior to XKeycoceToKeysym() on older X servers.

Cheers,
Anselm